Titan Extreme Lag Issues

Posting this really quickly before bed, so forgive my mistakes.

I had a really tough time with titan plumes pre 2.1 in titan HM. When 2.1 came out it somehow seemed to fix all my issues and I dodge titan hm plumes like nobody's business.

I finished Garuda ex recently, no latency issues...however I performed Titan Ex for the first time and through all tries, I can't get past 10 seconds of the fight because stacked weight of the lands seems to put my character in slow motion/pauses.
Another member of my party was having the same issue. You would think WOTL would be easier to dodge if everyone just stacks in one place, right? Neh.

I run it on a laptop with a good graphics card and cpu. I don't have lag issues with any other primal except this one as far as I know.

I am sure other people have this problem, as I've seen one other post in here about it, but I am adding to the fact that there is more of us. So please, Squenix, if you can do anything about it I'd appreciate it.

new and interesting thread

got something similar. i get hit by plumes even if i'm really far. Seems to happen when i use a skill while i'm still in the aoe.

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Originally Posted by Spearit

Seems to happen when i use a skill while i'm still in the aoe.

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This.
Every time I got hit by one or numerous weights it had to do with me performing an action right before, so once Weights are up next in the rotation I stop pressing actions and wait until it is over and then continue with my rotation.

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Originally Posted by Shirai

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This.
Every time I got hit by one or numerous weights it had to do with me performing an action right before, so once Weights are up next in the rotation I stop pressing actions and wait until it is over and then continue with my rotation.

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This is the same for me too.
I also put all my settings to low :D

Cannot confirm this. I usually use an action right before plumes TO EVADE them. The game triggers another position check it seems if doing something at that time and this saves ppl with packetloss from plumes. This is a well known solution btw.

I would install Leatrix Latency Fix and check with Pingplotter(freeware) for packetloss (Techgurus, i know theres tracert...has a reason i post the tool, not the windows cmd line command)

I am a tank, don't have issues with plumes, but I have issues with being way out of landslide (3-way and 5-way), and still getting hit by them.

There is a certain "action lock" that makes the server thinks ur not dodging the aoe, so DO NOT use any kind of skills during wotl or landslide casted. if possible use instant cast skill
in a safe spot to remedy the server oddity

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Originally Posted by Empressia

There is a certain "action lock" that makes the server thinks ur not dodging the aoe, so DO NOT use any kind of skills during wotl or landslide casted. if possible use instant cast skill
in a safe spot to remedy the server oddity

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I have found this to be very true.
If you cast an action while moving away from something, the game will log your position when you first started the action, and will not update it until after the action is complete.
This will cause your character to appear to be outside of an aoe, but in reality you are still inside it.
If you cast nothing and run, you will always make it. It is that simple.

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Originally Posted by MythToken

I have found this to be very true.
If you cast an action while moving away from something, the game will log your position when you first started the action, and will not update it until after the action is complete.
This will cause your character to appear to be outside of an aoe, but in reality you are still inside it.
If you cast nothing and run, you will always make it. It is that simple.

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Another solution is to cast something immediately after leaving the AoE. Our SCH occasionally has the issue when Lustrating the MT during Plumes; solution is to wait until you're out and use it then.

I'm having the same issues, but I blame my Internet connection more. Since everyone stacks up front would using repelling shot work?

I sometime use Repelling Shot to dodge WoL but frankly I don't recommend it.
Its CD isn't up for every WoL, and you will realize when you are in the middle of 5 WoLs. And one mis-click = dead.

Anyway, Repelling Shot can dodge WoL just fine if execute within certain time after WoL appear.

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Originally Posted by MythToken

I have found this to be very true.
If you cast an action while moving away from something, the game will log your position when you first started the action, and will not update it until after the action is complete.
This will cause your character to appear to be outside of an aoe, but in reality you are still inside it.
If you cast nothing and run, you will always make it. It is that simple.

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hmm interesting. I cant pass this fight for the life of me all cos I die on wotl. will try this next time...

Biggest change for me was hard wiring my connection, went from crazy rubber banding to NONE whatsoever

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Originally Posted by yeeeteee

Biggest change for me was hard wiring my connection, went from crazy rubber banding to NONE whatsoever

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Sad thing is I have a wired connection, just here Internet companies are so bad. I'm honestly thinking on dropping the game if they are going to make everything a super dodge fest, and I really do like the game.

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Originally Posted by MythToken

I have found this to be very true.
If you cast an action while moving away from something, the game will log your position when you first started the action, and will not update it until after the action is complete.
This will cause your character to appear to be outside of an aoe, but in reality you are still inside it.
If you cast nothing and run, you will always make it. It is that simple.

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I didn't know this, thanks for that advice.

Latency spike like everyone else that has the problem. I've had two friends download WTFast and they now swear by it. One of these friends lives in Australia and suffered 4000ms Ping spikes during Titan. He now dodges like a boss.

If youre complaining of slowdown/pauses it doesnt sound like internet troubles
Overlapping wotl's does cause framerate drops, on lowspec laptops or old ps3's I can see that being a problem, but not one thats likely to be high on the issue list

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Originally Posted by Empressia

There is a certain "action lock" that makes the server thinks ur not dodging the aoe, so DO NOT use any kind of skills during wotl or landslide casted. if possible use instant cast skill
in a safe spot to remedy the server oddity

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This is what I am also pointing at.
In conclusion I always do an action as soon as I leave the WoL area, to force the server to know that I am out.

The issue is that updating position data (and not using animations during the cast) should not be necessary to dodge anything. Also needing to download 3rd party programs just to be able to dodge also shouldn't be necessary. There are a lot of players who are not tech savvy, and also a large PS3 audience who cannot even utilize those applications.

I've said it hundreds of times and I'll say it again. Progression should be skill based, and not location, software or hardware based (as long as the minimum spec requirements are met). Each and every player should be on a level playing field, else don't even bother to release the game in specific locations (AU/NZ tends to have an extreme amount of issues regarding this).

Ofc they are happy to take AU money (even though we stupidly have to convert to EU because they can't be bothered implementing PayPal). Don't think SE really cares less... They're not going to allow greater flexibility in X primals to cater for us because people who have much better latency will find it too easy then. Unless they do fix some of their programming which catches people out who are casting and break it to run out of WOTL...as that is not acceptable.