Most FF series has Libra spell, Why not FFXIV

Give us Libra spell to see monster HP, DEF, MDEF anything :)

Then add bestiary section, completionists will lost their mind.

because ffxiv is just a generic mmo with a FF skin? it is the same reason why anything that deviate from the prototypical theme park design is shunned and put on the backburner

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Originally Posted by astrobearthe2nd

because ffxiv is just a generic mmo with a FF skin? it is the same reason why anything that deviate from the prototypical theme park design is shunned and put on the backburner

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FFXI didn't either so stop right there.

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Originally Posted by WowSuchName

Give us Libra spell to see monster HP, DEF, MDEF anything :)

Then add bestiary section, completionists will lost their mind.

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I would be happy to see something like this on a Ranger job or Scout class. I'd be even happier if it showed the target's sight cone for dodging aggro/Heavy while running through a zone, but that's probably not going to happen.

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Originally Posted by Amiantos

FFXI didn't either so stop right there.

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Actually, Libra was added into FFXI eventually in a patch - it's a White Magic spell for SCH. However it doesn't work the same way as it does in earlier titles (it's just a spell for viewing a target's enmity level - as ARR already has enmity gauges by default anyway Libra would be superfluous if it made this way.). Really, there's little need for Libra given the fact target weaknesses are minimal, if not non-existent, and most of the other relevant information is already shown on the screen anyway.

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Originally Posted by Amiantos

FFXI didn't either so stop right there.

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Scholar has Libra ability that as said was a scan like usual but only for enmity levels. Scholar in XI that is, since yeah, Scholar in XI at least attempted to be the same Scholar of FF.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Scholar#Job_Abilities

But yeah, this is a generic MMO with FF skin, don't expect the class/Job system to really be much of anything other than an illusion at this point.

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Originally Posted by WowSuchName

Give us Libra spell to see monster HP, DEF, MDEF anything :)

Then add bestiary section, completionists will lost their mind.

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Why not FFXIV? what purpose would it serve? None of those stats outside of HP would actually matter... and we can see an accurate enough representation in the health bar. I'm all for SE adding useful things and new content to the game, but let's stick to things that actually enhance the game in meaningful ways.

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Originally Posted by Vanidin

Why not FFXIV? what purpose would it serve? None of those stats outside of HP would actually matter...

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If the formulas are fairly the same, seeing monsters...welll...

Yeah you're right this game it wouldn't matter lol. I was going to say seeing a monster's Int base would do wonders with calculating how much you need and so on so forth in an easier manner, but alas, they took out most depth for 'accessibility.'

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Originally Posted by WowSuchName

Give us Libra spell to see monster HP, DEF, MDEF anything :)

Then add bestiary section, completionists will lost their mind.

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Mobs do not have Def or MDef values. They only scale in HP. You'd literally only be seeing their HP... and there's a bar for that, which also happens to show their buffs and debuffs.

Resistances don't matter - fire does full damage to fire elementals...go figure - so pointless to have one.

Ffxi libra = /check
Am I right?
Example being: "tough, high evasion with low defense."

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Originally Posted by waldo

Ffxi libra = /check
Am I right?
Example being: "tough, high evasion with low defense."

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Nope, XI's libra = Party Enmity (Party Member 1-6 x%), which is good for letting tank know where the levels are at, which the Scholar can then transfer and/or control hate levels through their spells and additional ability.

is it not possible to change options in any way to view a targets HP?
During one Hard Mode Ifrit boss battle, one of our party members spoke as if we was able to see Ifrits HP. During the hectic match it was just one tank and two healers alive. The person was shouting things like "You can do it, 8k HP left!" and such during the last like 1-5% HP (which we won, epic moment for the tank and two healers 8D)
I did not find any setting anywhere to view HP though but I might have just had a blind moment and missed it lawl

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

Nope, XI's libra = Party Enmity (Party Member 1-6 x%), which is good for letting tank know where the levels are at, which the Scholar can then transfer and/or control hate levels through their spells and additional ability.

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but moreso it was good for easy voidwatch procs. Hey guys, SCH ability 5!

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Originally Posted by Shirana

is it not possible to change options in any way to view a targets HP?

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All mobs have a visible health bar in this game. If you're asking how to view actual numbers, no, I don't think there's a way. The person you mention probably just knew roughly how many total exp Ifrit has (collected by a parser, probably), looked at the amount of HP bar that was left, and knew that it represented around 8000 HP.

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

All mobs have a visible health bar in this game. If you're asking how to view actual numbers, no, I don't think there's a way. The person you mention probably just knew roughly how many total exp Ifrit has (collected by a parser, probably), looked at the amount of HP bar that was left, and knew that it represented around 8000 HP.

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Ah yes, that is what I meant. Actual numbers~
I'd love to see what their HP is but I won't use Parsers because they're supposively a bannable offense and I don't want to risk being banned >> Was introduced to Parsers today by someone recommending me to use FFXIV-APP to improve rotations but I remember reading they're against the ToS so I'll just have to dream I can see their numbers lawl

"Cast Libra, Spam X"..

...oh wait,...this isn't FFXIII....

sry

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Originally Posted by Shirana

Ah yes, that is what I meant. Actual numbers~
I'd love to see what their HP is but I won't use Parsers because they're supposively a bannable offense and I don't want to risk being banned >> Was introduced to Parsers today by someone recommending me to use FFXIV-APP to improve rotations but I remember reading they're against the ToS so I'll just have to dream I can see their numbers lawl

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Pretty sure it was even posted by community reps that parsers are fine. All they literally do is read the chatlog and compile data. It's basically like if you read through the battle log and wrote everything down and calculated dps values, etc, really, really, really fast.

Ultimately, we're already confirmed to get add-on support in the near future so it would be pretty darn contradictory for parsers to be a ban worthy offense when we'll be able to develop add-ons that directly interact with the game and give us DPS data eventually lol.


That aside, in a game where mobs do not have any defense, magic defense, weaknesses to damage types or elements, or anything really that makes them unique in terms of how much damage they take from anything, Libra would be entirely useless. All the necessary data is already provided by the UI. The HUD and its elements are this game's Libra, if you will.

Oh man! Yes! I want a Bestiary! Please!

I'd love to have libra.

As stated, its traditional use is kinda a waste for xiv, but it could perhaps pull up a basic movelist ("Breaths fire, can use fire enhanced attacks, can stun") and a note written by one of the designers or something explaining whatever, or just laughing at it, you know what I mean. Would give a damn good reason to have it as an all-class skill (like the node detection for gathering classes) and a reason to kill everything once, let alone exploring and keeping the world busy. Would not, I think, take all that much effort from the devs either, and would add something cool, an achievement source etc.

Essentially like the monster book from Tales games.

Dammit now I want this really badly .-.

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

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Ah o-o
well I was just curious is all. I like seeing HP on monsters but it's just a personal preference xD
So if this add-on comes out and shows HP in numbers I'll definitely get it.

Edit: And in response to PoTo I'd love a Bestiary even more 8D

lol @ libra in ffxiv. The only good pre-combat information it could give me would be if the mob casts gravity or not.

Why have something that is basically useless? SE dumbed this game down so there are no real elemental resistances or any real hidden stats at all. Everything that really gives a damn when it comes to stats is already given to us.

A nice but probably never-implemented possibility for Libra -- as a continual Debuff that tells you how long you have until the mob uses its next ability and what that ability is.