Any words on looking for group system enhancement

Any words on looking for group system enhancement? Is SE going to give us FFXI seeking for group flag system? What is the time frame for it?

I am really suffering from spending hours trying to form a group or just going solo with terrible SP.

To me this is more important then the 1.18 patch.

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Well, i think first they need to make a battle system where being in a group isn't pointless spamming of abilities.

And to do that, they are going to need to have defined jobs/roles and not a bastardized armory system, and have it in effect at level 1 (if they want new players to pick up this game).

And with the speed that "major" changes are made... um... 3 years?

Eventually they'll change the name to final fantasy forever! It will re-release in 12 years.

I really want too see this implemented asap also...

Dungeons with /pcmd and visually inviting people is the way forward for the moment though.

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Originally Posted by Blitz0309

Well, i think first they need to make a battle system where being in a group isn't pointless spamming of abilities.

And to do that, they are going to need to have defined jobs/roles and not a bastardized armory system, and have it in effect at level 1 (if they want new players to pick up this game).

And with the speed that "major" changes are made... um... 3 years?

Eventually they'll change the name to final fantasy forever! It will re-release in 12 years.

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Yeah I'm beginning to rescale the time I expect this game to be 'ready' by. I guessing most people thought a year, as did I. I'm now expecting more like 18months to 2 and a half years with all the changes they have mentioned.

We confirmed with the development team that along with the implementation of instanced raids, they will be looking into enhancing the convenience of the party member search system. A raid search option will be added along with a feature that allows players to indicate they are searching for a party outside of raids.

We are currently performing thorough tests to ensure there are no problems for implementation.

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

We confirmed with the development team that along with the implementation of instanced raids, they will be looking into enhancing the convenience of the party member search system. A raid search option will be added along with a feature that allows players to indicate they are searching for a party outside of raids.

We are currently performing thorough tests to ensure there are no problems for implementation.

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Sounds Great!! I bet this alone will bring people back to FFXIV

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

We confirmed with the development team that along with the implementation of instanced raids, they will be looking into enhancing the convenience of the party member search system. A raid search option will be added along with a feature that allows players to indicate they are searching for a party outside of raids.

We are currently performing thorough tests to ensure there are no problems for implementation.

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Best news I've heard all day.

Now you guys just have to make open world exp parties worth the effort!

This is great news indeed.

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

We confirmed with the development team that along with the implementation of instanced raids, they will be looking into enhancing the convenience of the party member search system. A raid search option will be added along with a feature that allows players to indicate they are searching for a party outside of raids.

We are currently performing thorough tests to ensure there are no problems for implementation.

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Let the players test. The forums are a testament to us finding errors before the dev team.

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

We confirmed with the development team that along with the implementation of instanced raids, they will be looking into enhancing the convenience of the party member search system. A raid search option will be added along with a feature that allows players to indicate they are searching for a party outside of raids.

We are currently performing thorough tests to ensure there are no problems for implementation.

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Great news! I had always wondered why a seek function hadn't been implemented. Is there plans to add "/sea all" with the addition of the seek function?

Along with the raids? As in 1.18? :)

Yea I REALLY hope that means 1.18 implementation. Assuming since its being tested now it would be but this makes me hopeful.

Wait, does this mean we're getting a Looking For Group passive feature along with the current Looking For Members? Because that's the biggest gripe I have with the current group finding system: I can't just put up my flag, go gather or craft, and expect to be invited to a group like in XI, or look for members who are seeking to do certain activities when I form the group myself. Instead, I'm stuck shouting in Ul'Dah if I want anything done, and I'd rather not have to do that. Give us the option SP/EXP party under purpose while you're at it too. Putting up Purpose: None makes me feel weird at times since obviously I'm seeking a party for SOME reason...

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Originally Posted by jwang

Wait, does this mean we're getting a Looking For Group passive feature along with the current Looking For Members? Because that's the biggest gripe I have with the current group finding system: I can't just put up my flag, go gather or craft, and expect to be invited to a group like in XI, or look for members who are seeking to do certain activities when I form the group myself. Instead, I'm stuck shouting in Ul'Dah if I want anything done, and I'd rather not have to do that. Give us the option SP/EXP party under purpose while you're at it too. Putting up Purpose: None makes me feel weird at times since obviously I'm seeking a party for SOME reason...

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Agreed, it would be nice to have the option to go craft or gather while having your flag up for one of your battle or mage classes, or both. The whole none thing bothers me too, why isn't there an option for exp pt?? I would think that would be the 1st thing they put in.

The current party grouping system would work great if anyone actually cared to use it. The issue is, people would rather only group with their linkshell mates and friends. I'm not sure improving the system will help much when almost everyone already has a group they regularly do things with.

I actually really like the way it's set up... Instead of each individual having to look for a group, the party leader basically enters the information about his party, and waits for people to view it and join it who are in the proper class and level ranges. The only real concern with it is the fact that nobody uses it... Either because they don't understand it (even though it's pretty simple), or because they are, like i previously mentioned, not interested in doing things with people they don't know.

/shrug... I think if the system was explained better people would use it. It's one of the easiest to use LFG things i've ever seen. You can actually, as a party leader, just set it up, and go afk for a bit while people join. There's no need for constantly /sea all'ing the job and level range you really need. The biggest issue is the fact that people choose not to use it, not that it doesnt work... Or that its hard. It's really simple. It saddens me that not many people use it, and the ones that do seem to almost always be Japanese.

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

We confirmed with the development team that along with the implementation of instanced raids, they will be looking into enhancing the convenience of the party member search system. A raid search option will be added along with a feature that allows players to indicate they are searching for a party outside of raids.

We are currently performing thorough tests to ensure there are no problems for implementation.

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Thank $@#%ing God!!! XD

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Originally Posted by Rukkirii

We confirmed with the development team that along with the implementation of instanced raids, they will be looking into enhancing the convenience of the party member search system. A raid search option will be added along with a feature that allows players to indicate they are searching for a party outside of raids.

We are currently performing thorough tests to ensure there are no problems for implementation.

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Thank you.
/bow

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Originally Posted by NoMX

The current party grouping system would work great if anyone actually cared to use it. The issue is, people would rather only group with their linkshell mates and friends. I'm not sure improving the system will help much when almost everyone already has a group they regularly do things with.

I actually really like the way it's set up... Instead of each individual having to look for a group, the party leader basically enters the information about his party, and waits for people to view it and join it who are in the proper class and level ranges. The only real concern with it is the fact that nobody uses it... Either because they don't understand it (even though it's pretty simple), or because they are, like i previously mentioned, not interested in doing things with people they don't know.

/shrug... I think if the system was explained better people would use it. It's one of the easiest to use LFG things i've ever seen. You can actually, as a party leader, just set it up, and go afk for a bit while people join. There's no need for constantly /sea all'ing the job and level range you really need. The biggest issue is the fact that people choose not to use it, not that it doesnt work... Or that its hard. It's really simple. It saddens me that not many people use it, and the ones that do seem to almost always be Japanese.

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I don't think this is why people don't use it. I, as someone who forms parties regularly, am opposed to it. Why? Because I don't know who's joining my group with this process. Part of the biggest problem with the party search function is that unlike other MMOs, you don't get to screen who's joining your group. You don't know if they're good, bad, a troll, a whiner, whatever... Whereas when I shout and form my own parties, I actually have to communicate with whom I'm inviting prior to, at least giving me an idea of what kind of player they are. Example:

/sh LFM R. 44+ Raptor Party.

/tell #1 - I'm a 47 Lancer who would like to join.

/tell #2 - HI! I WOYLD LIK TO JOINS YOUR LEVE RGOUP

I instantly know I want one of those players and not the other. Party search feature? I get both whether I like it or not. This is a large problem for me, and I'm sure for many others who take charge and form groups.

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Originally Posted by Belial

Let the players test. The forums are a testament to us finding errors before the dev team.

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We can test it as soon the devs bring it ingame.

Lawd in heaven help meh! Finally lol! This is long over-due in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Belial

Part of the biggest problem with the party search function is that unlike other MMOs, you don't get to screen who's joining your group. You don't know if they're good, bad, a troll, a whiner, whatever... Whereas when I shout and form my own parties, I actually have to communicate with whom I'm inviting prior to, at least giving me an idea of what kind of player they are.

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I guess you're forgetting the fact that, World of Warcraft, the single most successful MMO to date (whether we all love or hate it), uses a dungeon grouping system that doesn't allow you to choose in the slightest who you go with... And 99 times out of 100, it works fine. You simply enter a queue that places you with 4 other people at random, from the same or different servers who are all seeking to run that dungeon. Keep in mind that the FFXIV dev team has also said they intend to make a system very similar to this, as well, for the future of instanced content.

Guess you won't be doing them, then?

Not to mention, as the party leader, you can always just kick the person who joined your group that you don't want. And if they join again? Well... Kicking isn't that hard to do. Or just leave them in the group til you get all the people you want, THEN kick them, and close recruitment. Either way.

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Originally Posted by NoMX

I guess you're forgetting the fact that, World of Warcraft, the single most successful MMO to date (whether we all love or hate it), uses a dungeon grouping system that doesn't allow you to choose in the slightest who you go with... And 99 times out of 100, it works fine. You simply enter a queue that places you with 4 other people at random, from the same or different servers who are all seeking to run that dungeon. Keep in mind that the FFXIV dev team has also said they intend to make a system very similar to this, as well, for the future of instanced content.

Guess you won't be doing them, then?

Not to mention, as the party leader, you can always just kick the person who joined your group that you don't want. And if they join again? Well... Kicking isn't that hard to do. Or just leave them in the group til you get all the people you want, THEN kick them, and close recruitment. Either way.

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First and foremost, the WoW Dungeon Finder is different on many levels when compared to the FF14 party search. This takes away accountability for actions, especially with a cross-server platform. Not to mention high queue times for anyone not playing Tank/Heals. As well, the dungeon finder tool is not used by people raiding, only by solo grinding dungeons for whatever reason. Raiding is still formed at the community level. Not to mention you ignored my inherent points about why the tool is not used, and it has nothing to do with WoW's option, it has everything to do with the fallible implementation of FF14's system.

Yeah i really think that the Dev's need to throw in a /sea all type function or something. because as it sits, grouping to grind exp just doesnt happen ever. there are some people that do it occasionally on raptors late in the game but not as much as i would like to see throughout.

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Originally Posted by NoMX

I guess you're forgetting the fact that, World of Warcraft, the single most successful MMO to date (whether we all love or hate it), uses a dungeon grouping system that doesn't allow you to choose in the slightest who you go with... And 99 times out of 100, it works fine. You simply enter a queue that places you with 4 other people at random, from the same or different servers who are all seeking to run that dungeon. Keep in mind that the FFXIV dev team has also said they intend to make a system very similar to this, as well, for the future of instanced content.

Guess you won't be doing them, then?

Not to mention, as the party leader, you can always just kick the person who joined your group that you don't want. And if they join again? Well... Kicking isn't that hard to do. Or just leave them in the group til you get all the people you want, THEN kick them, and close recruitment. Either way.

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Actually you can invite people from your server and choose who you play with from your sever, but any unfilled slots are random people from other servers. which is cool i like playing with people from other servers too, its more intresting.

Please 2 things only...

Give us the sweet ,godly ,faster ,clear and perfect search system of FFXI.
Was so easy... logged in game, open menu click on seek party... got invites and sent invites... few minutes and the party was ready to go!
and the /sea all command.....
Now doesnt work this new useless system.... doesnt work at all. i used it... but is too random... i wanna search ppl (/sea all) and choose them! i dont like wait for someone to pop random in party.
Please fix those things. i wanna lvl up not die in town shoutin in the wind...

Menu -> Party -> Recruit -> Purpose: Seek Invite -> Your comment

Menu -> Party -> Search -> Purpose: Seek Invite -> Select Class


System works but need more things like Level filter and allow Class: All

When this work, then add command chats like FFXI and we will be happy