Anyone know if 2.16/2.2 removes Myth cap?

Just hoping to finish sets for my classes. So they are all 90 and ready for next tier of content.

Yoshi-P probably knows.

I was thinking the same thing. If people are going to spam coil, may as well remove myth cap.

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Originally Posted by Kamahil

Just hoping to finish sets for my classes. So they are all 90 and ready for next tier of content.

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Conjecture: 2.2 will likely remove the cap on Myth Tombs, unlock coil for loot, and introduce a new tombstone of i100 or i110 gear to drop in Coil Turns 6-9.

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Originally Posted by Xayoc

Conjecture: 2.2 will likely remove the cap on Myth Tombs, unlock coil for loot, and introduce a new tombstone of i100 or i110 gear to drop in Coil Turns 6-9.

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With the kind of content they're releasing in 2.2, I can see the removal of Myth Tomes being a thing (We're using pages of a stone book as currency, not headstones from a graveyard. =P), the unlocking of coil for loot.. I THINK it was confirmed, but I could be wrong. The new Tomestone for new gear has actually been confirmed for a fact and will drop from Coil 6-9 and the Amdapour Ruins. Though I bet there'll be a cap on the new tomestones.

I guess we're back to spamming one (or two?) dungeons + coil for new myths.

They've already announced that they will remove the myth cap as they will introduce a new kind of tomes for the new set of gears. Source? Read the live letter.

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Originally Posted by Marxam

I guess we're back to spamming one (or two?) dungeons + coil for new myths.

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You're forgetting Brayflox and Halatali hardmodes as well as Leviathan...
Chances are, I'd say, very high that they will all drop the new tomes.

I doubt myth tomes will be fully uncapped and coil will likely get the entrance lockout replaced with loot lockout a'la CT instead. Myth tomes I believe will just get a raised cap. Say 600 or 900 weekly max instead of current 450.

New tomes will probably start at 300 weekly cap, and be raised to 450 from 2.3.

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Originally Posted by Thorauku

They've already announced that they will remove the myth cap as they will introduce a new kind of tomes for the new set of gears. Source? Read the live letter.

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I don't recall myth cap removal being mentioned in the live letter.

I doubt they would remove myth cap until they release a newer, better set that would take more than 2 months to acquire.

Pretty sure that it was mentioned though, I've just re-checked the live letter thread, no announcement there as well. Probably they'll post it in the part 2 of the Live Letter.

For now, take my word with the pinch of salt. Humhum~

Theory: When a New Tomes come with a cap, the previous tomes with the cap will probably be either almost entirely removed or removed.

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Originally Posted by DefendPopPunk

I doubt they would remove myth cap until they release a newer, better set that would take more than 2 months to acquire.

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Aka 2.2 in March

If myth cap will be removed then ct will never be done again. They should not remove the caps just add more ways to get gear so you have more to do instead of less (even if its new it will get boring if its all you do).

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Originally Posted by Marveth

If myth cap will be removed then ct will never be done again. They should not remove the caps just add more ways to get gear so you have more to do instead of less (even if its new it will get boring if its all you do).

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It's quite likely that CT loot lockout will be removed before Myth cap is removed.
CT loot lockout removal possibly in 2.2, but I wouldn't count on it until 2.3 when next stage of CT opens up.
Myth cap will probably exist and be raised in 2.2 and 2.3, and be removed in 2.4.
Coil entrance lockout will be removed in 2.2, but to maintain balance, I fully expect it to be replaced with loot lockout a'la CT, and not be removed until CT's first stage has its lockout removed, possibly after.
All this would ensure that people can gradually improve their gear and not make current content obsolete (other than for a minority that would rather spam WP a hundred times than gradually gear up).

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Originally Posted by Xayoc

... Tombs... tombstone...

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T-O-M-E

Tomestone. Seriously. It's not that hard to remember.

Are we even sure that loot lockout is going to be removed from coil just because weekly lockout is? I haven't been able to confirm a source for this other than the fact they said "weekly lockout is removed" This could very well mean, that you can STILL enter coil after you've done that turn once but you won't be eligible for loot.

Call me a skeptic but people always jump to conclusions and then get let down.

Anyways, if what I say is true, then myth cap won't be removed. At best, we're talking about an increase in the cap again. TBH, I really don't see them just suddenly flowing i90 gear out the door just because 2.2 is coming out. Why? this would trivialize content (e.g primal ex) at the existing 50 cap ALONG with the upcoming t1-5 nerfs and the progression would take a huge jump. Why bother farm i55-70 gear when you can jump to i90 immediately (i'm talking about new players, not people with alts)

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Originally Posted by Nahara

T-O-M-E

Tomestone. Seriously. It's not that hard to remember.

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Do you get mad when someone says cotton ball instead of cotton boll as well?

What? There isn't a loot lockout, it's a dungeon lockout in place now...You must be new here.

I hope they remove SOMETHING... having every kind of gear progression (or just progression full stop...) so restricted is really annoying. I spend half my week wondering why I log on, because I've capped myth, loot lock on CT, gotten to T4 on coil (can't do T4 until i get better gear...) so what do I do? There's no reason there should be a loot lock out on CT, you already have the odds highly stacked against you in that 1) only certain bosses drop certain pieces. 2) There's a total of ~36 items that can drop so chances are what you need won't drop anyway. 3) So many tanks are fishing, it takes 2 hours to even get into the dungeon.

If they remove myth cap, everyone will farm the hell out of Turn 2 (or even faster, Turn 4 if your team is good) and be i90 in a day without relying on loot drops. That would completely kill all the efforts everyone else has invested for months and months! Myth cap should stay for now. They should simply remove the loot lockout from CT and have it placed on Coil 1-5 instead. Because chances are that we might be able to clear Turn 6/7 with i80 just like how people cleared Turn 1/2 with i70 back in the days. They were more of a stupid check than a gear check.

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Originally Posted by DefendPopPunk

I doubt they would remove myth cap until they release a newer, better set that would take more than 2 months to acquire.

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Yes, in 2.2.

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Originally Posted by Ferocious

If they remove myth cap, everyone will farm the hell out of Turn 2 (or even faster, Turn 4 if your team is good) and be i90 in a day without relying on loot drops. That would completely kill all the efforts everyone else has invested for months and months! Myth cap should stay for now. They should simply remove the loot lockout from CT and have it placed on Coil 1-5 instead. Because chances are that we might be able to clear Turn 6/7 with i80 just like how people cleared Turn 1/2 with i70 back in the days. They were more of a stupid check than a gear check.

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Its going to happen. It happens in every other game out there. If you are ilvl 90 already, how did it ruin all your hard work? They always make old content easier to get, so people do not need to spend months just to catch up, which would be at the time of more new gear that is out of their league.

this game will be losing a lot of good players.

Remember when everyone thought you could farm CT all day and gear up all your off classes?

Why are people repeating the same misconception with 2.2?

Your not all serious right? Its most likely going to be like CT, one item fro each turn in Coil 1-5 every week, with maybe a slightly higher myth cap.

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Originally Posted by stephenjd3

Your not all serious right? Its most likely going to be like CT, one item fro each turn in Coil 1-5 every week, with maybe a slightly higher myth cap.

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I highly doubt it will be 1 item per turn a week, since higher ilv gear will be out.

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Originally Posted by AngelMoon

I highly doubt it will be 1 item per turn a week, since higher ilv gear will be out.

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By that same logic CT would not have a weekly limit; I agree its likely a loot lockout vs weekly lockout for coil come 2.2.

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Originally Posted by Wolf_Gang

Remember when everyone thought you could farm CT all day and gear up all your off classes?

Why are people repeating the same misconception with 2.2?

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This is nothing new, but don't worry, most of these people will be claiming that they were "betrayed" and "slapped in the face" after 2.2 releases.

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Originally Posted by AngelMoon

I highly doubt it will be 1 item per turn a week, since higher ilv gear will be out.

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Hello CT?

I imagine it just like this

1 ITEM per a turn, and each turn is a separate entity on the duty finder, that's FIVE items a week, that's ALLOT more then your getting right now with i80 in CT, in addition to the lets say 500 myth tome cap, that could be 6 i90 items a week, then all the i90 acc from ex primals? Ex mog will prob have choker, so that's an entire lvl 50 geared to i90 including your i90 primal weapon in one week. God forbid you opt out for the i95 in t5....jesus this is to much IMO, if I had it my way, one piece from t1-5 each week...

If they allow unlimited grinding of the first 5 coils without adding other restrictions to it, such as CT's weekly gear lock then it would completely trivialize Labyrinth of the Ancients, which I doubt they would do. The same goes for unlimited i90 gear grinding via tomestones, there would be no reason so run CT anymore until 2.4 or whenever the next section of that raid comes out as you have no reason to get i80 gear from it anymore.

Hmmm now what were people saying? Guess i was right...

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