Getting Past That Awkward Moment

I realize that we already have a post about healing nightmares on this board... and while my story would be considered a nightmare, I have a bigger question: How do you get past that nightmare time?

I was doing Qarn and working on lvling my White Mage. We got as far as the first boss and we were repeatedly wiping. First time was because no one was protecting me from the bees. The second was due to rezing the tank because the wound up Doomed. Third time for similar reasons... then we have a DPS who is overly squishy and would repeatedly bite it.

After about the fifth try we decided to call it a wash. I feel like I did everything I could, but it wasn't enough... so how do I get past this feeling that I'm a crappy healer?:(

You know I'm wondering the same thing after burning through soooo many teams for titan HM... Don't get me wrong I can do the fight just fine on the two easiest jobs in there you know Paladin and Bard, but the second I got in a casting bar no matter when I moved I'd get hit by plumes. I was told by this overly geared healer who is good at what s/he does that there was no reason to help a person who can't dodge in titan through titan...

I'm starting to get more confident after managing to heal garuda EM, but I still feel like a crappy healer and would like to get over it ;n;

1. Ask yourself: What did I do wrong? & What could I have done differently?
2. Get back up on the horse.

This boss can be a nightmare with people who just don't get it. There's really no way to carry the fight as a healer, everyone (or at least three out of four people) needs to be on the ball with Doom and Bees. Unfortunately you will encounter people who die to Doom *over and over*, even after you explain the mechanic multiple times, depressingly often.

Something that may help with bad parties is making really annoying sound effect macros. When Doom is placed on the party or Bees spawn, mash your macro a bit and hopefully they'll wake up and realize they need to do something other than drool all over their keyboard. Throw in a healthy dose of beeps, chimes, bongos, whatever. It works pretty well!

Similar to Elkya95, its kind of hard to know when youre doing something wrong. I have been struggling for Titan HM on my healer. Managed the other 2 primals well, healing lvl 50 dungeons pretty well, but i just dont know if its me or the team after Titan's Heart phases :/

Bongos?

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Usually when there's a wipe and you feel that you are a decent healer, it's other people not doing their jobs.

A good example is Titan (hard and extreme). If somebody eats a plume, they're dead. You can't do nothing about that.
If somebody eats a landslide, they are probably dead. You can't doing nothing about that either.

A lot of time, there are things that happen that aren't controlled by a healer but by how everyone else in the party plays.
DPS/Tank eat unnecessary things, more healing from you or you'll have to rez them.
Tank doesn't tank adds or dps don't kill them, you'll get hate (which usually isn't your fault, healing is a lot hate if no one has hate)

Just pick your head up and brush it off. First time I did Ifrit extreme, I thought I was a crappy healer too. Then I realized what was going wrong
and what I couldn't control. Picked up my pieces, and moved on and got my win that same night. Just think positive :3

Tank should be picking up the bees and DPS killing them ASAP since their sting does a ton of damage and would likely kill most people. There's really not a whole lot a healer can do if people are dying to Doom or if no one is touching the bees.

As for Titan HM, his attacks follow a pattern so if you're slow at getting out of plumes consider starting to move before they appear. Your main priority should be yourself not dying or getting knocked off the edge, even if it means you need to stop casting a heal and move. After that you can start looking at why other people are dying. Unless people are dying during stomps or the tank is falling over from mountainbusters, then it's probably not a healing issue. Even without a cooldown up, a tank should never die to mountainbuster as long as healers are on the ball (although ideally they should be using one).

1. Always admit when you makes mistakes.
2. Blame the tank for everything else.
3. Play better.

That is what I do.

A lot of tanks have healer alts. You're bound to run into one, like me, who knows when you're messing something up. We might try to offer you advice, though we know it's considered rude. Otherwise, if you feel like you are to blame for the wipes, or you really have no idea who is messing what up, just ask in the party chat, "Is there something I am doing wrong or missing?" Trolls will jump on this moment to attack you, but most people will offer any honest observations they know of to try and get you to see a detail you might be missing.

Don't let one run, or one of the harder dungeons get you down. Qarn was no joke when I was leveling my healer. Up to Qarn, it's all tank-and-spank and spam DPS. Then all-the-sudden, people actually have to pay attention. Chin up. You'll be fine :)

Been there. I even stopped using DF, and didnt enter the dungeon in question (twas actualy a Trial) for a week or so because I was so disheartened.....I then made friends, and asked them to do it with me. It was sooo easy. I couldn't understand. Sometimes, its just the team. I levelled a little, and ran lower level fights to practice my skills etc...which may have helped...

Regards Quarn, though. There is an exploit I use as healer (I wont post it here) which means I never get Doom. And I macro/noise for Doom and Bees. The tank pulls them off me, and Doom is never a problem. I just stand in my position, static, for the whole fight. Sometimes I still have to do a rez, but generally its quick.

Sounds ike your team was just not used to the fight. Don't take it to heart, and run it again. In that fight, as healer, you need the bees controlled by tank - if they arent doing that, then thats their error. And Doom? Well if there are multiple deaths on that...you can't heal doofs. You can rez them, but it don't cure doofness.

Hello, many people feel like you at times. Usually when a team can't make it or has a lot of problems, it's not just one member's fault. Tanks and healers are the most visible, that's why less people play them.
When I did Qarn for the first time as a PLD I was not good. Anyway we won (with many wipes on 1st boss, a couple on last.) I repeated for practice thinking I would do better and second time it was impossible to pass the first boss. Wasps would always kill me, somebody died by doom, etc. Next try was better.
I feel very bad when I think I am ruining other's runs. Many times I choose not to do high level DR for this reason. If you are unlucky with the team, you may blame yourself, even if other times the run was smooth and easy.
Most people are very nice. Funny when one blames another and is rude, the one blaming usually is not playing well and has a lot of fault. Try not to get too upset if it happens to you (difficult, I know.):)

Ask the other healer how he does it, and take what seemed like an advice/improvement to your style and get rid of ones that doesn't make sense to you. Ask the team if they feel like you're doing anything wrong. That's what I usually do, I don't know if it helps with everybody but I definitely realize this awkward moment exists for all healers. Even if the tank said you're not healing enough, you probably know it in your heart that you did or did not, so those "not healing enough" things are actually stuff you don't have to be told about, so yourself is also one more person you need to ask. Other than that, keep practicing and think of the rewards after beating that extra hard boss!

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Originally Posted by MrDiezel

Similar to Elkya95, its kind of hard to know when youre doing something wrong. I have been struggling for Titan HM on my healer. Managed the other 2 primals well, healing lvl 50 dungeons pretty well, but i just dont know if its me or the team after Titan's Heart phases :/

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If you have problems killing the heart it's usually a group problem (either there are always 2 or more dead or DPS is too low), and probably you won't make it after the heart where it gets much harder. After the heart, if it's always the same people who die, those are the problem (maybe they lag or don't have too much HP or need more practice.) If other members are good enough, you may make it with just one or two who die several times (healer that raises the other healer more than once and manages to keep the tank alive, tank dodges and uses well cooldowns, other people don't die too much.)

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Originally Posted by ph03n1x13

so how do I get past this feeling that I'm a crappy healer?:(

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99% of the wipes that happen when I heal is either the tank was undergeared and pulled too much or the DPS standing in stuff. The 1% comes from accidental Regen before Flash/Overpower or I clicked off the tank and was healing myself and not them.

That first boss is a pain in the butt and should never have you consider your worth as a healer. It is a 50/50 win-lose for me everytime and there is nothing you can do about people that don't listen/do mechanics.

Just take a deep breath and continue on!

Covering for people's mistakes is not the job of the healer. Having a good healer can help pull a bad group through their mistakes, but if you fail because people are taking avoidable damage and you just can't heal through it, that's not your fault.

If you notice people making mistakes, say something and give them pointers on how to be better. You can try to fix people being stupid, but you sure as hell shouldn't be trying to heal it.

Its simple, really.

Were you healing properly? you can easily heal 4 adds at the same time, or any boss if that's the case.

NOW, I said that you can heal no problems with all of that, it doesnt mean that your mp will last...if your mp runs out in a boss fight, its mostly the party's fault (unless you were spamming cure II and III, then you have no forgiveness)

Of course, remember that you cant heal spam, this is white mage is different to other cleric classes on other MMOS, like aion for example, where you could just spam heal and buffs, AND DPS, not caring about MP or aggro.

Also, if DPS is dying to AOES, that's also not your fault

All in all, the one that knows if you are doing well or not, its yourself. keep your head up, and keep healing. you will do better and better with each time

Quarn -- first time I felt the same way.

One thing that's helped alot on the first boss fight (since the DPS almost always seem to fail at killing adds quickly in most pugs) is to just keep stoneskin up on the tank as much as possible. Even if the tank eats a final sting, stoneskin will usually keep him alive with enough health to survive until the next heal/regen tick hits. Once I see the wasps pop/start being killed, I put a stoneskin and a regen on the tank just in case.

You need to remember that sometimes the tank dying is their own fault! I had a tank rage at me for dying...when he ate a DOOM!