I'm a bad tank, but vote abandon.. 8 times in a row?!

Well.. Even though the fact that I've gotten 12 Rowena's Token as a healer doesn't really help here, nor do I bring it up whenever I queue as a tank..

I've been trying to clear Garuda as a tank (XM), and everytime before I go in "I'll say Hi guys, I have done this before but haven't cleared it."

Then whenever a wipe happens, there has to be that one guy that does vote abandon.. All with different parties. Just after one wipe. 8 times in a row, all different parties. Sure we have the same people every now and then who chatsI think that's a bit much? (in case you'd think I was telling the story from my side only, there's nothing I hide really. I asked where they wanted me to tank, whether they wanted to have DPS take Chirada, stuff stuff.. I was just being the nice noob there.)

Its sad that people just cant stick with it, I know for me, when I join a group, usually the main reason is because we don't have enough DPS or the healers are just horrible.

We weren't doing that bad actually, the first few times we died because I forgot to pull spiny off, another was I took the wrong add(supposed to be suparna but got chirada) but then onwards we always died because suparna didn't die at the 2nd add phase. But there had to be THAT ONE guy who always, always clicks vote abandon. I really hope when he needs help somewhere someone would just vote abandon him..

Are you using DF, by any chance.

Yeah, was on the DF for E only cause I figured I'd need any extra advice or opinion on where and how they wanted me to tank it. I usually went for JE but since being a tank here isn't somewhere I'm very good at, I thought I'd need the extra communication..

One wipe and poof is crazy. How are these ppl dealing with life? I failed that test let me quit this class. I understand abandoning ship after like several wipes (depending on instance, some ur just gonna have to eat some fail til coordinated) but one wipe quitters are just sad. I am not sure how to improve ur situation because it just flies in the face of reason with dps queues so long.

You used DF and expected communication.

/thread.

It was almost instant queues for me, and well I never lie about my experience in DF. If it was my mistake I'd say it was my bad and went on to keep trying. Is it that gamebreaking for people not to win on their first few tries?

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If it was a JE DF, I'd be prepared for not understanding some of the Japanese players. But as a half decent person you'd think people be more communicative..

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Originally Posted by Pence

You used DF and expected communication.

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Counter-point.. if you're using DF you should have some degree of patience and not expect 1-shot kills either.. ^^;

Seen this plenty of times now. Gotta say FXIV is the worst mmo community I've ever played with.

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Originally Posted by DarkTrinity06

Seen this plenty of times now. Gotta say FXIV is the worst mmo community I've ever played with.

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Funny thing about that.. I hear it in every MMO forum I walk into for any game.. ^^;;

Every community is going to have its share of elitists and jerks, that won't change.

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Originally Posted by Ruethryl

Counter-point.. if you're using DF you should have some degree of patience and not expect 1-shot kills either.. ^^;

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Counter-counter point.. you have expectations of a DF group..

Wait. That was worded terribly. Pounding grape. My bad. You get it, but?

But man, 8 times in a row... Maybe I was exaggerating. Maybe it was 7. It was just a lot.. Fortunately (or unfortunately), only 2 of them actually passed. But you can guess what it does to the party's morale when you know someone in there has already plans to abandon ship..

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Originally Posted by DarkTrinity06

Seen this plenty of times now. Gotta say FXIV is the worst mmo community I've ever played with.

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See folks saying that in every MMO I've ever played. I tend to wonder if most of the problem isn't them.

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Originally Posted by Richiealvian

It was almost instant queues for me, and well I never lie about my experience in DF. If it was my mistake I'd say it was my bad and went on to keep trying. Is it that gamebreaking for people not to win on their first few tries?

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If it was a JE DF, I'd be prepared for not understanding some of the Japanese players. But as a half decent person you'd think people be more communicative..

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You're gonna run into people with no patience it sucks i know At least you admit to your mistakes, My first time doing darkhold the tank was having a go at me calling me a crap healer because i wasn't sitting there spamming cure on him.

What exactly are you expecting in this thread? SE forcing people to stay until X amount of wipes? Awareness that grouping with 7 random people is random?

Just use PF and make sure you state it's a learning group. If you choose to use DF, accept it for what it is: the good, the bad and the ugg.

Actually, it was probably more of a rant.. Although it'd do me wonders if they could just abolish this vote abandon thing..

Hehehe.. I haven't been brave enough to try Ex primals in DF.. though maybe if I wanted tank practice ...

CT though has gotten better, still get the occasional stinker alliance, but for the most parts groups can successfully clear without too much trouble.

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Hehehe.. I haven't been brave enough to try Ex primals in DF.. though maybe if I wanted tank practice ...

CT though has gotten better, still get the occasional stinker alliance, but for the most parts groups can successfully clear without too much trouble.

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See, that's the problem here. I think it's because it's considered the norm for people to be afraid of trying. I don't think people should come into a game, want to try out stuff, and get intimidated by some anonymous person. They could argue you're wasting their time, and as it seems everyone is selfish, including me. Just selfish in a different way, but I honestly don't think people who are left behind in clearing content should be intimidated to even try. (Unless it was clearly stated in a PF group EXPERIENCED ONLY, then that's a whole different story. I also despise people who lie about their experience.)

Ill post this here again

(Its been impossible for me to get good at garuda ex as a tank, df getting ended after 1 or 2 wipe, and not even being my fault half of the time anymore... Save yr its easy bs, sinnce most likely u didnt tank on ps3 there, with all random df people, and yes i have to go on df cause server parties all request conpleted her before

You said the magic phrase "I'm new". Should of just played dumb and looked like you knew what you was doing like the other 50% of tanks in df.

When I use DF I always expect a wipe (Not in dungeons, but on primals)

I do it when I want to practice something. Anyway some people is amazing.

A few min ago I entered DF Titan Extreme as a tank. I was expecting to die very soon. We started the fight and ended up wiping a bit after the adds. I was really surprised cause I didn't expect a DF party to even pass the hearth, but ...The amazing part comes later. Vote: Abandon duty... after die on adds on the first try.

I mean.... Some guy thought that we shoud 1 shot him.......?

Oh great...I still havent got Lv50 yet and so not cleared the 2.0 content yet alone 2.1 :/
Guess this means I'll never clear it with been "new" to the instances - was kinda hoping my Tank status would help sheild me from the 1 wipe quiters - not that I'm a bad tank (not saying im great either) I'm just human and dont spend every waking moment playing/watchin XIV lol.

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Seen this plenty of times now. Gotta say FXIV is the worst mmo community I've ever played with.

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Sadly, I agree.

is a good idea to use DF to learn mechanics as tank / healer or dps

ppl expecting to 1 shot extremes on DF ? lol.....

Try to put a PF to learn garuda EX , if doesnt work , keep trying until u learn the encounter and join a PF :D

You would think the kindness from ffxi people would be here too at least 50% of them, but nawww

This is what happens when you make a game where 1 persons simple mistake fucking destroys a whole party.

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Ill post this here again

(Its been impossible for me to get good at garuda ex as a tank, df getting ended after 1 or 2 wipe, and not even being my fault half of the time anymore... Save yr its easy bs, sinnce most likely u didnt tank on ps3 there, with all random df people, and yes i have to go on df cause server parties all request conpleted her before

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Try starting your own. You'd be surprised about how efficient that can be. Not to mention how many people are willing to join learning groups because of intimidation of DF players and there only being experience required PF ones. Obviously, there are going to be occasions when you won't be able to form a group, but that goes for experienced ones as well.