I participated in the PvP in this game for the first time tonight. Unfortunately, I regret doing so very much as I've discovered that I do not like the PvP in this game at all. I'd like to not have an ugly stained record permanently attached to my character just because I decided to give a different part of the game a try.
I think that the records should definitely be wiped especially due to the inherent lack of balance and poor mechanics of the PvP in its current (early) state.
I'd like an official word on this please.
Are win/losses in PvP ever going to be wiped?
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01-23-2014, 02:11 PMAmusedAre win/losses in PvP ever going to be wiped?
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01-23-2014, 02:42 PMpontiuspyrite
If you don't like the PvP then why would you care about your PvP record?
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01-23-2014, 02:45 PMLumiin
Lol someone is a sore loser. So what you lost not everyone wins everything, what's wrong with people.
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01-23-2014, 02:48 PMPavise
Yes, your character is tainted now the only recourse available is to delete it and make a new one. Or just go outside for a second and get some fresh air then realise what you're complaining about isn't the end of the world..... of warcraft.
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01-23-2014, 02:48 PMKirscheyGet out of here with your logic and common sense!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumiin
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01-23-2014, 02:58 PMAmusedI didn't know I wouldn't like it. How would I know without trying? I care about my record because it's (as of right now) permanently attached to my character.Quote:
Originally Posted by pontiuspyrite
Where did you come up with that? I don't care that I lost. I care that because I decided to try out a feature of the game my character is permanently branded with losses, or rather, labeled as a loser. Just to emphasize it, this happens just from TRYING the feature out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumiin
What logic? Where in my post did I ever claim that I was upset that I lost? It's not about that I lost. It's that my character is tagged with said losses. I wouldn't want wins there either in the event that I never wanted to PvP again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirschey
I suggest that wins/losses be wiped and a ranked match system be put in place that actually tallies your score. That way, people like myself could try out a regular match with no consequences. -
01-23-2014, 03:09 PMLumiinOkay :<Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirschey
Right there^ You care about the fact that you lost. People that don't care...well they just don't care.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amused
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01-23-2014, 03:14 PMAtheena
That's not pvp that's a "SLUMBER PARTY"!
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01-23-2014, 03:17 PMKirschey"I'd like to not have an ugly stained record permanently attached" sounds like upset about losing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amused
Regardless, if you didn't like the pvp and never plan on doing it again, does it really matter what your w/l ratio is? Or that it even exists?
Pvp got somewhat better after the last patch -
01-23-2014, 03:17 PMMrSmiley
pretty sure my pvp record is like 2-2 or something but I never even seen it...
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01-23-2014, 03:18 PMfrostmagemari
On the plus side.. i don't think any of us can see your record, can we? it's something only the character can see in their own pvp tab?
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01-23-2014, 03:19 PMulti_19
You will never win 100% of the time and no one checks your record and gasps that you lost in a TEAM pvp. Don't worry about it:]
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01-23-2014, 03:34 PMAllyra
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
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01-23-2014, 03:41 PMNayto
Yes... I like to maintain my Kraft Dinner ratio just like all my shooting games.
There should be a prestige where after obtaining a certain rank in PvP you can choose an ability called "Fresh Start". -
01-23-2014, 04:10 PMTomTom1968
I have a heart for nerds and statistic fetishists but this is just LOL. Sorry, have no other words for it. I don't like PVP either and entered a combat once to get the e-peen trophy. Since this I have never checked that tab again where you see your score. How on Earth can this be so important to you to make a thread and ask SE to change the system to your needs? /leaving thread with shaking head.
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01-23-2014, 05:33 PMRichiealvian
I wiped about 1000 times in Twintania, now the server has the data and knows that I've lost so many times. I had no idea I'd die if I didn't avoid the divebomb, I don't think i should get punished by trying. Can I get official word if I can make the server lose its memory about me losing? It's permanently attached to my character log in the SE server somewhere, so I think I have the right to hear about it. Can we please get a Dev response?
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01-23-2014, 05:53 PMMezolitik
You should wear it like a badge of pride; in fact, keep losing, and become the single worst PVPer in history.
They should have an award for 1,000 losses that gives you a weapon in the shape of a wooden spoon. Who wouldn't want a Spoony Bow? -
01-23-2014, 06:11 PMBrandoHThey're not gonna wipe just because you and few people are OCD. I hope they never wipe the record, so all the botted PVP accounts can keep their 10k+ losses at R30.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amused
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01-23-2014, 06:41 PMVladislav
Pffft. I tried Pvp after launch , failed @ it , forget bout it lol . That is common thing that records about win/lose going on , but they are nothing for real , no need to even worry bout them .
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01-23-2014, 06:48 PMMihana
I can understand where the OP is coming from here, I wouldn't want it on my character either. Every time I'd go to look at the tab it'd frustrate me that I actually have a loss there. Though, eventually I'd get over it and move on. The problem here OP is I don't see this happening, ever. They won't wipe it and actually, asking for it to be wiped is kind of let's be honest here, silly. If worse comes to worse, just do some more and try to get a win.
Maybe you actually hate PvP for all the wrong reasons. You said you didn't know if you'd like it, so what is it you don't like about PvP? Was it the combat? Did you hate the system? Or was it that you were beaten so you decided to say screw it and never try it again?
I won't judge you here if that was the case because quite truthfully it sounds exactly what I'd do as well. I don't like PvP because I hate losing, in fact I was pretty adamant about the idea they were implementing it into the game. Yet I got over it and now I don't even care about PvP as long as I'm not directly forced to engage in it. Often you never know if you'll like something until you try. In this case it's PvP thinking maybe it could be fun to try. Suddenly you lose and you find yourself in sheer frustration and anger that you lost (More if you get a sore winner.) and then decide you hate PvP.
It's not because the system is bad, because lag hit you, or it was poorly implemented. You just hate the idea of losing and having it show up on your record there like a big blemish.
I know you don't like it, and I'm 100% behind you on wishing that you could just undo it and pretend it never happened. Unfortunately things don't work that way so the best advice I can offer is just try to move on and don't dwell on it. Try not to let it frustrate you too much and return to what you enjoy doing the most in-game. A win/lose count is only for ego-boosting at the end of the day, it has no affect on what kind of player you are.
Best of luck. -
01-23-2014, 11:52 PMMayin
My PVP record is 0-0. AMAZING
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01-24-2014, 01:55 AMKomplex7782
I hate you.
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01-24-2014, 03:18 AMAdvancedWind
Fun fact: Only you can see it
Fun fact 2: And it's so godamn hidden I literally had to search for it when someone else told me it even existed. -
01-24-2014, 03:54 AMnecrosisI want to be a spoony bard!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezolitik
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01-24-2014, 04:06 AMNeruMewYou are the reason why Lalas are soup material.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumiin
They should sort of reset the pvp rankings and history in my opinion. Make it work in either seasons or like the ladders, just wipe out everything and have them restart. To give a fair cahnce to new players, plus a refreshing start for old ones. The fun on raising on the scale and what not. And the chance to clear bad history.
It's not about being a bad loser or not, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't like that neither. Plus the problem is not them losing but others stereotyping. There were a lot of bots going around and still are I'm sure. Would you like your ranking to be messed up too because you got grouped with a bot? Or those that had unfair wins vs crippled groups (by a bot).
Honestly if it's just random there's little to no point of keeping track of win/loses, as it's pretty random. You can't control who you get grouped with. They can be great and carry you to a win or help you rightfully get your win, or hinder you and brand you with a loss.
Win/lose ratio should be left for ranked matches. Heck, they don't even let people parse because others get their feelings hurt if they are told how bad they are performing. Soooo.... Win/loss ratio has got to go, or get reset every now and then. -
01-24-2014, 04:11 AMLumiinJesus Christ are you being serious?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeruMew
I tried the pvp in this game because I love pvp, it sucked, I have 1 lost no wins. Am I here crying because I lost? No. No one can see your win/lose score. The fact that you guys are like "It should keep track because we can't decide who get paired with" is beyond stupid. Even if you go in with a pre made the other team could still wipe the floor with you.
You guys are just sore losers face it. -
01-24-2014, 04:15 AMTohruHonda
Right, and those who are proud of their good records should suffer, because you can't get over your "stained record"
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01-24-2014, 04:20 AMAllyraFair chance of what? You aren't matched by your win/loss, nor can anyone see it. I can't even remotely wrap my head around the idea that you care.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeruMew
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01-24-2014, 04:26 AMRONINRAVERQuote:
Originally Posted by Lumiin
Basically the same thing here, though I gave it I think five or six matches to give it ample opportunity to win me over. It didn't.
I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure I remember that my teams only won once or twice out of those five or six matches. So my W/L ratio is in the crapper, and will remain that way forever, or until SE makes enough changes for me to enjoy FFXIV's PvP. Doubtful, but one can dream, right?
Know how I deal with the agony of knowing my W/L record is permanently scarred and will reek of failure probably forever? I don't. It's not even something important enough to actually register in my brain as a thing worth caring about, and thus dealing with. It is simply a thing that is.
Fix your priorities, OP. This is not a thing that should be of any concern to you at all, never mind a concern great enough to start this thread over. -
01-24-2014, 04:31 AMDSWBeef
1 loss concerns you? Good lord. If I felt that way in every pvp game ive played I think I would just die..
Seriously there are more important things to worry about. Just unbind your pvp hotkey if there is one and never open it. PROBLEM SOLVED! -
01-24-2014, 05:01 AMFaiyez
haha you lost
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01-24-2014, 05:08 AMFelisOnly if fresh start delete all pvp points, pvp skills, pvp rank and everything you bought in the pvp shops. So you start at 0 again with the fresh start.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nayto
OP, there is no win/loss record. I find only a win/fights record. So long you do not the math, you would not see how many fights you lost.
But you can control it. Just choose your party members before you enter the arena.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeruMew
Just don't tell anyone your pvp records and they can't hurt your feeling.Quote:
Win/lose ratio should be left for ranked matches. Heck, they don't even let people parse because others get their feelings hurt if they are told how bad they are performing. Soooo.... Win/loss ratio has got to go, or get reset every now and then.
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01-24-2014, 10:51 AMNeruMewThe point that you need to come here and call other people sore losers says something about you, I'd hope you can figure what out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumiin
I couldn't care less honestly, I just think it's there for nothing. Adds nothing positive whatsoever. And there is even less of a reason to make it permanent, since pvp will be divided in seasons regardless it is pointless. -
01-24-2014, 11:07 AMLumiinYeah it says that I can spot sore losers. You're whining because it shows how many battles you lost and it only shows it to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeruMew
Sounds like a sore loser to me =T -
01-24-2014, 11:33 AMNeruMewLOL! The ignorance. You know nothing of me. If you did you would know I don't have any because I care not for PvP at this stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumiin
But I guess just sharing my opinion on a matter (whether it's related to me or not doesn't seem to matter) makes me a sore loser.
Okay. Share me more of your logic methods, they seem very effective!
The way you got to the conclusion we are all sore loser, such perfection. Flawless results. -
01-24-2014, 11:56 AMTornadoFury
i don't see a problem with reseting pvp ranks considering PVP has been unbalanced and Bugged.
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01-24-2014, 12:31 PMTurbotailz86Nah don't worry about stuff like that. Just know the fact this game pvp is team coordinated so you're going to need a group if you want to have a winning record and also get pvp gear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amused
However on a real note the main thing about team pvp or overall is being a asset to your team and knowing your priorities on what to take out a.k.a healer, but also having fun at the same time.