Sigh, major raiding issues in my FC.

My FC treats me like trash and only asks me to do coil when it is convenient for them. So 3/4 the time I end up having to raid alone.

And yesterday I logged in and asked if we were raiding today, and someone in my raid group said no, because we were waiting on a married couple.

So I log in today and wait a while and finally the raid leader came on TeamSpeak, and I told him I was waiting for raid time (and numerous times I have told him I have lost loot because I have to fight PuG tanks for loot because I don't static with one unless I raid with them), then he tells me, they already cleared T4...WHAT!?

He said they decided (again) yesterday after I logged they should raid..So yet again I have to queue solo and fight tanks for loot.

I am almost to the point of leaving them, because I have hinted numerous times to the raid leader this problem, and he just doesn't give a crap. I don't even see why he doesn't wait for me, we can 1 shot T1-T4.

I am pissed.

Befriended with other PLDs or WARs, ask them to team up with you whenever you want to do Coil.

Sounds like you either need a new FC/server or to form your own static.

They totally need a "Dear Abby" section on these forums.

I raid with PUGS, I dont even have FC.

It's time to leave... FC's are like jobs... When your struggling to hit your goals its time for a change... My FC has 8 raid groups currently and were creating a 9th... Go somewhere better add your friends to your friends list... Your welcome

If they're not looking out for the welfare of their own members, it's high time you leave them. If they do not feel you are worth their time to entertain, they are not worth your time either. Good luck finding nicer people out there.

I'm sorry? But it should be fairly obvious. They don't like you. Either because you're not good enough at your role or they just don't like you personally. Find others to raid with that DO like you

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Originally Posted by bokchoykn

They totally need a "Dear Abby" section on these forums.

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It'll be "Dear Bokky" then!

@OP: Leave 'em. They don't seem to appreciate you - and there's probably little that you can do. Don't fall into the battered-raider-syndrome.

"But the FC/leader can be nice. He sometimes gives me loot and the buffs are good."

:(

Why you sticking around if you're being treated like trash? Lot's of other FC, Linkshells to join man.

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Originally Posted by sybase

I'm sorry? But it should be fairly obvious. They don't like you. Either because you're not good enough at your role or they just don't like you personally. Find others to raid with that DO like you

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or it could just be that they do not consider them to be a part of their core

but the way i see it, if you are not having fun playing a game then you are doing it wrong and should start doing it right.

As a leader of several guilds across all the games I've played through out the years, I never have, and never will, condoned such unfair treatment towards anyone in the guild. That is simple abhorring! Please join another FC already! Simply put, you deserve better!

-Eborel Kreuz
Leader of Rosenkreuz Orden (RsK)

If you are unhappy, leave. If you think the problem can be fixed, have a serious talk (although it seems like you already have).

This is a problem that is (sadly) perpetuated by the fact that you get LOCKED out of turns after you beat them. I knew this would be an issue from day one (before anyone I knew would be running coil), and it is part of the reason I ended up leaving the first FC I was in (cliques formed and excluded others, because there wasn't always *exactly* eight people to go). I would really suggest forming your own group, or looking for a group that needs a static member.

You'd think that with the tiers being INSTANCED COMPLETELY SEPERATE FROM ONE ANOTHER that they would've given them seperate locks, but no.

Hey, SE, 2005 called and they want their raiding structure back. Get with the times guys.

Don't know why it isn't apparent to everyone that 4 and 8 man content results in poor community development.
I don't blame your FC. What would you do if you had a static that could only include 7 other people? When someone doesn't show up, you look for a rep. When all the original members are there, they get priority.

Until 16-24 man content becomes available, there really is no need for Linkshells or Free companies. Just a waste of server space. That includes lolHousing.

"CHECK OUT MY HOUSE Y'ALL!" lawl.

Its clear leave and find another FC its clear they have some kind of problem with you and so over look you for coil but oddly do not care to tell you why.

I would go look for another FC best to look in mor dona for any FC shouting building raid group odds are one will grab you right away since tanks are all ways in demand.

What the OP doesn't seem to realize is that the FC seems to have its own static group and the only reason they ask him to join in when a member of said static group isn't there. If I have a static group and all my members are there I'm not going to bother with random people in my FC trying to get in when all slots are full.

I also think when the OP says "they treat me like trash", he just means they don't invite him to coil every week.

Sidenote: I run coil with PuG's constantly and I've been fine. I'm BLM so the majority of the time there's 3 of us sharing the same loot yet I still have 4 Allagan pieces for my main and only need 1 more for i90. Either find your own static or find a new FC that has a slot open for whatever class you play. Don't expect to get into a static group that's full.

There's also the fact they might just think you aren't good enough compared to the other tanks around... don't just blame the FC and give them a bad name.

I'd change your FC or start up a Non-FC static.

Our FC runs random-makeup groups amongst all members for T1-T4 (at the start of every week, people say which days they're free, we generally have enough of a spread to make 2-3 groups) and it's become unusual for each group not to oneshot it in a single evening. If we handpicked a single group, we'd probably be able to get through Turn5... but there are a much smaller number of people that are up for trying it, and a far from optimal spread of gear and classes. So although I've PUG'ed it a few times and the FC has had several "practice/training" sessions, for now regular FC T5 clears are still a pipe dream. (Doh!)

On the weeks where I don't get rotated in for a FC spot, I'll generally PUG whatever Turns that I'm looking for drops from. As a tank, I've found that T2 is the hardest one to get a PUG for these days due to the overabundance of 1x Tank 0-click teams... but it doesn't take much to level up and outfit a healing class in Darklight for that one turn.

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Originally Posted by SirGazuntai

What the OP doesn't seem to realize is that the FC seems to have its own static group.

I also think when the OP says "they treat me like trash", he just means they don't invite him to coil every week.

Sidenote: I run coil with PuG's constantly and I've been fine. I'm BLM so the majority of the time there's 3 of us sharing the same loot yet I still have 4 Allagan pieces for my main and only need 1 more for i90. Either find your own static or find a new FC that has a slot open for whatever class you play. Don't expect to get into a static group that's full.

There's also the fact they might just think you aren't good enough compared to the other tanks around... don't just blame the FC and give them a bad name.

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They do have a static group, and I am part of it. Yet they treat me like this. Clearly you didn't read all my OP where I said we 1 shot T1-T4 every week. And I am an Ilvl 87 PLD.

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Originally Posted by Pesmergia

They do have a static group, and I am part of it. Yet they treat me like this. Clearly you didn't read all my OP where I said we 1 shot T1-T4 every week. And I am an Ilvl 87 PLD.

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Originally Posted by Pesmergia

we can 1 shot T1-T4.

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That means 2 different things. Maybe they just don't want to wait for you since another tank can do the job just fine and they happen to be on when your group decides to run it. Either way, find a new static group that will set up a specific time, get on at that time and run together. End of story. If you don't like it, leave it. You just happen to be at the bottom of the totem pole.

They are using you, to gear up. What they want to do is replace you with one of their real tank friends. Who is not you. So as soon as they have him geared, they will leave you.

Do you have access to your C's vault? Take out the gil and leave.

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Originally Posted by Asdamine

Do you have access to your C's vault? Take out the gil and leave.

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Even if their FCs have bad peeps, I'd never steal them, just leave the FC.

Right there with you...FC having issues keeping people interested, get asked repeatedly if I am on for a Monday 9pm EST raid, so I commit. About 8pm a friend asks me to go with him, decline since I committed to static group in FC... around 9:10 the FC person in charge logs in, doesn't say "sorry for running late" says "Who wants to do CT?" Meanwhile friend is out of T4. /rage

Same night, I join a PUG coil, get through T1, everyone 90k's on coil T2, and now I can't find a group for T2 since everyone only takes 1 tank and all the healers are eaten up from early enrage runs.

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Originally Posted by Feyniphia

Even if their FCs have bad peeps, I'd never steal them, just leave the FC.

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Bad people - no, don't steal.

Being bullied - yes, definitely bleed them dry!

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Originally Posted by Asdamine

Do you have access to your C's vault? Take out the gil and leave.

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Two wrongs don't make a right...but this is an online game, soooo yeah...

transfer to cactuar ;P we can alway use more tank ;)

We kissed and made up. (mainly because I got 4 coil drops today in a PuG and hit i88 on my PLD) lol

Now they seem to want me more since I almost got 7k hp :-P

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Originally Posted by Pesmergia

We kissed and made up. (mainly because I got 4 coil drops today in a PuG and hit i88 on my PLD) lol

Now they seem to want me more since I almost got 7k hp :-P

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How convenient of them. Uhm, I wouldn't want to stay with a group like that... especially when you realize they are now interested in you because you got better gear. That's all up to you, though.

You should form your own static... Recruit into the fc... Take the initiative and 1-up them

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Originally Posted by Pesmergia

We kissed and made up. (mainly because I got 4 coil drops today in a PuG and hit i88 on my PLD) lol

Now they seem to want me more since I almost got 7k hp :-P

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Sound like someone gettin played playa!

Maybe it's because you have pink hair, pink lipstick, and apparently a heart tattoo on your cheek?

I think you are too fabulous for your current FC.

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Originally Posted by Senfei

Maybe it's because you have pink hair, pink lipstick, and apparently a heart tattoo on your cheek?

I think you are too fabulous for your current FC.

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Now that I think about it, he's probably Taric in disguise!

http://cdn.overclock.net/5/53/500x10...i-d33egxj.jpeg

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Originally Posted by Senfei

Maybe it's because you have pink hair, pink lipstick, and apparently a heart tattoo on your cheek?

I think you are too fabulous for your current FC.

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Lmao I am glad someone actually noticed that :-)

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Originally Posted by juniglee

Now that I think about it, he's probably Taric in disguise!

http://cdn.overclock.net/5/53/500x10...i-d33egxj.jpeg

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I'm that dude from beauty and the beast!

http://thewiseguise.com/wp-content/u...tonVillain.jpg

Or the dude in my sig... :O