Final Fantasy XIV coming to China

http://www.mmoculture.com/2014/01/fi...ut-test-phase/

Wonder if it will be sub based this website seems to think so.

Of course it will be sub based. Yoshi not going to go FtP, ever. They will have to pay the same as everyone else to play the game.

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Originally Posted by Jilse

Of course it will be sub based. Yoshi not going to go FtP, ever. They will have to pay the same as everyone else to play the game.

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He said this originally but later changed it to they'll switch to whatever model seems best given that circumstance (basically all options open) or completely shut the game down.

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Originally Posted by Jilse

Of course it will be sub based. Yoshi not going to go FtP, ever. They will have to pay the same as everyone else to play the game.

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Uhhh, a game can both be non sub based and non FTP you know. In China it's actually quite common for them to buy time as they play instead of an actual subscription.

If China can have their own servers why can't Xbox One lol oh well

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Originally Posted by Macka

If China can have their own servers why can't Xbox One lol oh well

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China has over four times the number of just MMO gamers than Microsoft has total Xbox Live Gold subscribers. Also, Microsoft may have required SE to set up servers in many different regions to get worldwide coverage.

Also, from what I've read, people in East Asia (and China?) can pay an Internet cafe for time online, then choose any MMO or online game to play during that time. The Internet cafe pays the MMO. WoW counts even one brief login per month as a subscriber. It's apparently widely known but that's partly why their numbers are so high.

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Originally Posted by Macka

If China can have their own servers why can't Xbox One lol oh well

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I heard that didnt happen cos microsoft didnt want to share servers with ps3 players.

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Originally Posted by Macka

If China can have their own servers why can't Xbox One lol oh well

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It's required by law in China, Xbox issue is Microsoft being greedy. Also the Chinese version is different.

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Originally Posted by Jilse

Of course it will be sub based. Yoshi not going to go FtP, ever. They will have to pay the same as everyone else to play the game.

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Massively seems to think it will be free to pay http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/01...inese-version/

I hope I can choose Chinese language in the US version of the game in the future(I live in the US but I speak both Chinese and English), but I know it's not likely to happen. hmmm

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Originally Posted by kristerrr86

I heard that didnt happen cos microsoft didnt want to share servers with ps3 players.

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In my understanding, MS's policy is not to let 3rd party have subscription fee but DLC and Xbox Live Gold subscription.
This can explain why no Monster Hunter on Xbox as well.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

I think the FFXIV/MS issue do with MS not wanting to open Live again for the game to connect with the PC/PS3/PS4 (soon) players, they seemed to want their own private servers - Square werent willing to go that route and I dont blame them, can you imagine spening the money to get Xbox FF running and then risk not getting the subs to sustain it?

As for China - its nice its going there but a shame that they wont be able to play with us :/ a million more tanks/healers could be helpful in the DF queues!

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Originally Posted by Milmoko_Gemoko

As for China - its nice its going there but a shame that they wont be able to play with us

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Don't worry about that, if you want to interact with chinese players on our servers just respond to a RMT tell. :)

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

It's required by law in China, Xbox issue is Microsoft being greedy. Also the Chinese version is different.

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Actually, it's just that you have to have a server there because China will arbitrarily shut down your traffic as they control the gateways which are physically located there.

And you can always tunnel through it if you've got someone who has the technical chops. That's why people can still access Facebook there - because paid VPNs often also offer encapsulation in order to tunnel the information in a different format that can bypass controls.

I guess China can (and does) decrypt and classify traffic.. and they do do this to some services, but that really takes a lot of effort, and they probably won't do it all the time reliably. And you can support more protocols and offer better encryption. Eventually I guess you would get to a point where your traffic/revenue generation is slowed down enough and the government eventually wins.

Still... the country would have to really, really hate your company to do that. Most companies just trust them with their sensitive information and keep the server there even though the government basically has access to EVERYTHING on your company at any time. To cut IT costs. Heck, our company recently collapsed our domain with the China exclusive one as well.

And China has better things to do with their time. Like manage it's rapidly aging workforce. Though governments can't be said to be the most rational entities ever.

On the official chinese website, there's some info from the company that's localizing it.
They did Aion in China.

There's a questionnaire asking people if they want the game charged hour or by month. It also says it's going try to keep to the original as closely as possible (unlike how they made a F2P model out of Aion, I guess).
So subscription is likely, but hourly is much more popular in China.

My wife is Chinese so she keeps tabs on this.

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I hope I can choose Chinese language in the US version of the game in the future(I live in the US but I speak both Chinese and English), but I know it's not likely to happen. hmmm

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I'm pretty sure it's going to be a completely different client designed to operate with China servers only.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

It's required by law in China....

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China also apparently has Internet gaming laws to try to limit gameplay time and identify players. The game client would need to comply with these (and servers enforce them?). (I'm just paraphrasing Wikipedia, though.) Some thought FFXIV v1's SP (XP) Fatigue system was designed with China's laws in mind.

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Originally Posted by Sushi

I hope I can choose Chinese language in the US version of the game in the future(I live in the US but I speak both Chinese and English), but I know it's not likely to happen. hmmm

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Same here, but I cant type in Chinese >_<, so I think i will stick with English version

China has a very healthy market for MMOs, and some very good games too, like the Age of Wulin. Played that and the open PvP is crazy. The maps are magnificent and they are huge, and I mean huge. There is one game I am keeping an eye on and that is Monster Hunter Online, which is a partnership between Tencent and Capcom. Its based on Crytek 3 engine and has genuine collision dynamics (means it plays like a true action game even for an MMO).

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Originally Posted by Milmoko_Gemoko

I think the FFXIV/MS issue do with MS not wanting to open Live again for the game to connect with the PC/PS3/PS4 (soon) players, they seemed to want their own private servers - Square werent willing to go that route and I dont blame them, can you imagine spening the money to get Xbox FF running and then risk not getting the subs to sustain it?

As for China - its nice its going there but a shame that they wont be able to play with us :/ a million more tanks/healers could be helpful in the DF queues!

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Let me correct that... A million more RMTs.

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Originally Posted by Milmoko_Gemoko

As for China - its nice its going there but a shame that they wont be able to play with us :/ a million more tanks/healers could be helpful in the DF queues!

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And 10 million more DPS to flood your queues and make them longer.

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Originally Posted by Lunavi

Let me correct that... A million more RMTs.

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Btw a lot of RMT operations are US based. Just saying.

I'm assuming this is PC only? Are consoles allowed in China? And if not, are they letting PS4 and Xbone in? I thought I heard that.

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Originally Posted by Jubez187

I'm assuming this is PC only? Are consoles allowed in China? And if not, are they letting PS4 and Xbone in? I thought I heard that.

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PC only and consoles do exist in China but it wasn't until recently is it allowed to actually have sanctioned production of game systems there - Basically lifting the 20ish year ban on them.

in other news, who cares about what happens in china?

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Originally Posted by alhandra

in other news, who cares about what happens in china?

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You, as you viewed and responded to a thread with China in the title.

Consoles are legal in China, however the game distribution often works in completely different ways than they do here, so most games are not licensed there. That said, there has always been a huge import market especially for handheld consoles.

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Originally Posted by alhandra

in other news, who cares about what happens in china?

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I'm sure many of us do, for various reasons.

Also, since they're making a Chinese client anyway, can we please get a charset for simplified Chinese added already? It's been bothering me forever that they can't add a proper charset in this year and age. Most traditional characters, even those that have been simplified in Japanese, seem to work just fine.

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

You, as you viewed and responded to a thread with China in the title.

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TBH i thought this thread was going to be about chinese gold sellers

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Originally Posted by alhandra

TBH i thought this thread was going to be about chinese gold sellers

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Most do since lots doesn't realize the actual companies are based in the US, Korea and Japan.