Open up the WORLD please

Most MMOs have no boundaries. The world of Eorzea needs to be completely free to roam. Players should be able to jump off cliffs, onto rocks, and explore every part of the world. For example, when we reach a small ledge and want to get to the ground below it, we shouldn't have to go all the way around. We should be able to jump down. If it's too far down, it would hurt us or even kill us. This is Final Fantasy; keyword, "Fantasy". There should not be any limitations when it comes to the environment. This is 2011; and Final Fantasy 14. Even Final Fantasy 7 had more free roaming capabilities than this.

the "small ledge" problem has been fixed long time ago, and without jumping. Not you need to take the long way only on "not so small ledge".
Also, killing yourself in a canyon is esploration now ?

ledges and other barriers prevent botters from logging and mining, or at least slow them down so i think they should keep it.
Go explore Mhora dona, you should have wsome fun there ;)

Mor Dhona is exactly why I made this thread. I went there for the first time today and it's sad that most of the map are just backdrops. To Yukikaze, you're telling me those tiny ledges around Camp Bloodshore are fine the way they are? I find it ridiculous that you can't jump on/off to a ledge that's only about 3 feet high. It's not just the ledge. I am talking about the entire world being linear and closed. The biggest example would be Gridania. Why are we enclosed in a maze?

Also, Shinigami, please reread your statement and think for a minute. Most of the logging and miner bots do not move from node to node. Most of them in fact stay at the exact same spot and continue to gather while the node replenishes. I do not like any Blizzard games, but this is why Blizzard is successful while most are not. Game developers should NOT cater to the idea of bot prevention at real players' expense. Want to get rid of bots? The only way to do it successfully is to have real support and GMs who actually monitors the ingame world. Any player who actually plays the game can tell who's botting and who's not. There will never be a way to prevent hacks/cheats/botting in anything that is coded. You can only monitor and control it.

If I can just insert a little clarification here. You say that Blizzard's game is successful because it has no boundaries, but last time I logged into WoW I looked up and saw the moon and I couldn't travel to it. I mean it's 2011 and WoW doesn't have any astronauts?

But seriously: I fundamentally agree with you, we should be able to go anywhere and have the means to do so, but there ought to be some limits on it. It's good to be able to jump down off a ledge, but it's not fun to accidentally fall off a cliff. Give us protection from falling off cliffs unless we hit the jump button to confirm our death wish, give us rope for safely climbing down (and back up) things, give us boats and climbing spikes and the ability to climb a tree. Any terrain I can see, let me traverse or die trying.

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Game developers should NOT cater to the idea of bot prevention at real players' expense.

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It's good to be able to jump down off a ledge, but it's not fun to accidentally fall off a cliff.

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Nah. Everything or nothing. Let's get a serious hit to HP for falling down from too high a ledge, and allow Lancers to ignore that.

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Originally Posted by Tenku

Mor Dhona is exactly why I made this thread. I went there for the first time today and it's sad that most of the map are just backdrops. To Yukikaze, you're telling me those tiny ledges around Camp Bloodshore are fine the way they are? I find it ridiculous that you can't jump on/off to a ledge that's only about 3 feet high. It's not just the ledge. I am talking about the entire world being linear and closed. The biggest example would be Gridania. Why are we enclosed in a maze?

Also, Shinigami, please reread your statement and think for a minute. Most of the logging and miner bots do not move from node to node. Most of them in fact stay at the exact same spot and continue to gather while the node replenishes. I do not like any Blizzard games, but this is why Blizzard is successful while most are not. Game developers should NOT cater to the idea of bot prevention at real players' expense. Want to get rid of bots? The only way to do it successfully is to have real support and GMs who actually monitors the ingame world. Any player who actually plays the game can tell who's botting and who's not. There will never be a way to prevent hacks/cheats/botting in anything that is coded. You can only monitor and control it.

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Geeezus man im not making any statements here, im just bringing my point of view, you are free to disagree.

Note aside, If botters dont move from node to node then it will take them an eternity to gather cause i know as a botanist that you can wait a good part of the day beside a node waiting for it to replenish, if you dont hit the next one

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Originally Posted by Shinigami

Geeezus man im not making any statements here, im just bringing my point of view, you are free to disagree.

Note aside, If botters dont move from node to node then it will take them an eternity to gather cause i know as a botanist that you can wait a good part of the day beside a node waiting for it to replenish, if you dont hit the next one

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There are certain nodes that replenishes faster because there's not many other nodes around it. Also, that's why you see "bots" getting 50 Fisher before anything else because it's the easiest to bot since the node never runs out.

Well... When we become capable of swimming, Climbing, Jumping and whatnot, im sure the world will open up a lot more.

It's too bad there are those against swimming, climbing, Jumping and whatnot.....

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Originally Posted by Rinsui

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Nah. Everything or nothing. Let's get a serious hit to HP for falling down from too high a ledge, and allow Lancers to ignore that.

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I want to be able to fall off that cliff into the pit of despair. Whats with this imaginary wall preventing me from falling to my death?! down with it I say!

For smaller drops, I agree it seems odd.

However in true FF style, high drops or high jumps would not kill you, and you would look pretty darn good while doing it. :)
(I'm not necessarily suggesting that is a good idea for the game.)

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Originally Posted by Chezen

For smaller drops, I agree it seems odd.

However in true FF style, high drops or high jumps would not kill you, and you would look pretty darn good while doing it. :)
(I'm not necessarily suggesting that is a good idea for the game.)

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Oh yea falls onto solid ground wouldnt phase the typical Final Fantasy Character. hell, Cloud can chase bahamat 10000 feet into the air, 1-shot it, and make a perfect somersault landing like a ninja. SUPER climbhazard

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I want to be able to fall off that cliff into the pit of despair. Whats with this imaginary wall preventing me from falling to my death?! down with it I say!

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Hahaha, yess!!!
SE should at least give us the freedom to commit suicide at the end of the day! ;)

here is a post from another thread that ties in with this.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...e-Masons/page2

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Originally Posted by normalforce

It would be in all sorts of languages, too. Truly a multicultural game.

When airships finally get introduced into the game and I can just imagine looking down at an aerial view of Thanalan...

Me: "Hey look, you can see the road from... MY MOM'S A WHAT!?!"
Friend: "Hmmm, in three languages, too.

Though, I doubt they'd give us that much freedom to lay bricks. Otherwise... you want to what!? Pave all of Thanalan? o.O Sweet Azeyma, that's insane. (And quite possibly brilliant.)[/I]

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My original thought had been to only be able to build/repair roads in set places. This would include the main pathways veiwable on the mini-map and maybe a few smaller pathways to the mines for instance.

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Originally Posted by Jericho

Im slowly getting on board with the social project idea. I dont think it should be exclusive to a crafting class though. Mason would be a nice class on its own though, with its own set of crafts. Repairing a road could require a combination of skills or ranks, or be more efficient depending on class being used. A cook with mason rank 1 wouldnt be as fast at it than a cook with mason rank 50, but he should still be allowed to try, yes?

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Yes! This would be a social project requiring many people, all services would be needed. The sky is the limit with what you could do. Maybe miners would be needed to quarry stones, alchemists would make the cement and mortar. You could have low level masons make easier parts of the path, while the higher rank masons complete the harder parts. You could even have cooks prepare meals and drinks for the workers (which would give bonuses to whatever they are doing)

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Originally Posted by Perrin_Aybarra

yeah it's a fun idea, would certainly give more importance to crafter jobs and bring more life to the game. Once the road is completed (or the segment of it) then you can have carpenters build fences to border it :P

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Imagine if they fixed the environment collision so that it would be possible to fall off ledges and possibly die or take a big hp hit. Then the carpentars really would have a reason to build/repair fences. It would fit perfectly into the game *SPOILER*, I already had a quest where a caravan drove off the side of the road and busted the fence all up, plus some of those fences near the edges of cliffs look to be in serious need of repair!

Phantastic ideas. And definitely 99% of the player base will agree that stuff like this is right what we direly need now.
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I mean, come on. Everybody would agree that all they secretly ever wanted to do in a MMO is to prepare low-level mortar to fill out the gaps in a road. Or repair fences to vailantly protect noobs from breaking their necks. Wouldn't they?