WOW style tanks....

Hi all...I just fed up with WOW style tanks tht tries to pull everything in galaxy and expects ultra heals and mega aoe damage from DPS. No this is not WOW tht you can fill a tank with a single button heal evey 5 seconds from %20 hp to %100.

Honestly it is not tanks only anyway, but also (especially bards n archers) try to pull everything around tank.

How usually do you all fellow healers meet such kind? Cose in 2 of 5 dungeons i make via DF, i met tht kind

I never played WOW, so I dont know the comparison.
However, this method of fighting is not uncommon and is doable. I dont know about Scholar healing, but in cases of this I pop Divine Seal and spam CureI until my CureII free pops. Then a couple of them, back to Cure.
BUT....a Tank should always tell you he is going to do it. As long as he tells me he is about to pull everything, I am, at least, prepared for the button frenzy. If he just runs straight in a pulls everything, it is possible we will wipe because I am not fully prepped. And I will say so in chat, after said wipe...or if we survive, after said pull.
If Tank is geared and you are geared, it is no problem...BUT, he must tell you. That is just good manners, as well as being critical to make sure everyone is ready for it!
(you can always refuse, or ask to build up to it - as I have done when running a dungeon for the first time)

Dont be scared to say something. The first pull is the pull where I work out what the rest of the dungeon will be like for me (gauge my healing on the tank). Most Tanks will appreciate you saying something than staying silent and letting it go crazy. e.g I had a tank ask "Small, medium or large pulls" on a run. I replied, "Medium, then we can see if we an upgrade". Everyone was cool. We ended up "upgrading" - but rather that, than a monster first pull and death! :)

I usually tell my tanks to pull two or three packs at once, especially in WP or AK.

If they don't I'm liable to fall asleep from boredom between bosses because Selene can solo heal if they pull one pack at a time. o.O

I love doing big pulls, it just makes the run a lot faster and more fun. if you cant handle big pulls just tell your tank to do single pulls.

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Originally Posted by pumpcheeze

I love doing big pulls, it just makes the run a lot faster and more fun. if you cant handle big pulls just tell your tank to do single pulls.

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/agreed, small pulls makes me want to leave the dungeon, dammit 30m penality

1/ Look at your team gear before making decision whether to pull big pack or small pack at a time.
2/Let everyone knows what you are doing.
3/Test out the theory, if failed multiple times, then it is time to make slow but steady.
4/Enjoy a happy run.

@OP: Yeah, some Tanks don't bother to actually ask if the group wants/is capable of running in an AE style. You have to tell them not to.

@bored-healers: Cleric Stance. If you're bored on a small/single pull it's no ones fault but your own.

going into cleric stance and doin dps to 1 target is still not fun

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Originally Posted by pumpcheeze

going into cleric stance and doin dps to 1 target is still not fun

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I really don't get this. What I say next is not sarcastic at all, I'm honestly asking this question.

You say you're bored if your pet handles too much healing.
I suggest using skills/spells to fill the time instead of standing around bored.
You say it's still boring.

What exactly are you looking for?

Hate big pulls. I can only spread Bane to 3 other targets, and if pulling any more than that I'm usually not able to DoT at all. Could get through smaller pulls rapidly in less time and less effort.

Keep in mind group make up too, good lord was it rough trying to go through WP with 2 average geared monks and a tank that still wanted to speed pull regardless, I'm sorry but they don't have much in the way of AoE, the extra couple of minutes to allow them to single target will make the run go faster than if we run out of cooldowns and we all die. There's also time between pulls, and they extra length it takes to down each pull is longer anyways with no aoe and MP regen.

Also... all you bored healers, if you're so bored of healing, do something else in 4 mans, tank, dps, or just don't do them, if you are bored of a role do another one or go do something else.

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Originally Posted by Tzain

I really don't get this. What I say next is not sarcastic at all, I'm honestly asking this question.

You say you're bored if your pet handles too much healing.
I suggest using skills/spells to fill the time instead of standing around bored.
You say it's still boring.

What exactly are you looking for?

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I have never said I was bored if my pet does most of the healing. and what you suggest is boring because still going into cleric stance to dps 1 target is the same as just sitting around healing a tank off a single or small pull. it sooo much more fun too do big pulls while keeping your tank alive and then goin into cleric stance to holy spam. yes sometimes the party makeup can prevent you from doin what like to do and it sucks.