Is Quake from Archeron bypassing Succor's shields for anyone?

Is it just me or is it bypassing the shields? :confused:

Quake bypasses everything.

Yeah, a lot of the AoEs in CT bypass buffs (I assume all, but since I've mostly healed all I know for sure are Galvanize and Stoneskin. But the poison from the left path also bypasses every defensive buff, just doing a flat 200 damage every tick, so I assume everything that bypasses SS and Galv also bypasses self-buffs as well)

This does make AoE healing with Succor a real pain if you have 2 SCH...

o.o whats the point in succor being used then if its shield doesn't do whats it meant to

So it wasn't just me imagining things then. o.o" Unless your party is terrible at dodging his AOE, there's no point for the Succor shield to be up. I'm better off spamming Physick and Embrace on 8 people separately.

His Ice spell does too. Ignores shields and stoneskin.
Since they're pretty close in his rotation, succor still seems like a decent spell to buffer everyone for the next hit.
Of course, Whispering Dawn will always be a better option since mitigation is out the window anyway.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Lemon8or

So it wasn't just me imagining things then. o.o" Unless your party is terrible at dodging his AOE, there's no point for the Succor shield to be up. I'm better off spamming Physick and Embrace on 8 people separately.

---

I like having succor up in case of emergency anyways. At the very least, it's less effort than manually healing everyone back up. >>

This seems like a poor design decision. Scholars don't get the massive AOE heals that White Mages do, so making AOEs go through our AOE mitigation feels like it makes SCH just flat out less effective than WHM on this content.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Firetta

This seems like a poor design decision. Scholars don't get the massive AOE heals that White Mages do, so making AOEs go through our AOE mitigation feels like it makes SCH just flat out less effective than WHM on this content.

---

Well this is where the ideal setup if a SCH + WHM comes in. Have the SCH go heals on the Tank and the WHM can heal up the raid, as it utilizes their design better.

Plus even if it doesn't mitigate that attack, it at least mitigates the following attack.

Are you all 100% sure it isn't just the sheer amount of stuff going on in the field causing the 'barrior buff falls but the icon fails to vanish' error?

I know from experience that Quake III will do upwards of 2500 to a Dragoon set up in full Myth gear.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by CalvatE

Well this is where the ideal setup if a SCH + WHM comes in. Have the SCH go heals on the Tank and the WHM can heal up the raid, as it utilizes their design better.

Plus even if it doesn't mitigate that attack, it at least mitigates the following attack.

---

The thing about CT is that even one WHM makes the whole thing a joke, let alone WHM/WHM. Regen/Medica II, proceed to ignore raid for a minute.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Skies

Are you all 100% sure it isn't just the sheer amount of stuff going on in the field causing the 'barrior buff falls but the icon fails to vanish' error?

I know from experience that Quake III will do upwards of 2500 to a Dragoon set up in full Myth gear.

---

It definitely goes through the shield. Easy way to check is to get hit by any of his other attacks immediately after and the shield will fall (along with mitigated damage).

did it bypass sacred soil too?
or since it bypass succor shield i feel like it by pass sacred soil too, no difference if i use sacred soil or not
the only way is to up whispering dawn and covenant before aoe happens

I think Quake III just deals damage as a percentage of your max HP and ignores shields like Stoneskin and Succor. It's only a theory, but it does seem to hit high HP jobs like DRG and tanks harder than it does mage jobs.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Alkimi

I think Quake III just deals damage as a percentage of your max HP and ignores shields like Stoneskin and Succor. It's only a theory, but it does seem to hit high HP jobs like DRG and tanks harder than it does mage jobs.

---

I'm pretty sure it just hits for a flat number, like all the other bypassing AoEs do. Skeletons on Bone Dragon do 1500 damage when they go boom; think Quake 3 does about 2.5K-3K damage (I've seen rezed casters get one-shotted by it before), and Quake does something like 1K damage.

Had to solo-heal this fight as a SCH last night (our WHM derped or something and was locked-out) and I just eventually threw a Succor or two at the party and let Eos deal with everyone (had MT too...so yeah, wasn't going to waste time spamming Succor and letting him die) Only lost our BLM because people forgot about the Claws...