Why be a millionaire?

Real question, say you have no interest in buying a house, is there reason to hoard gil?

Until recently I was busy gathering/crafting to make as much money as possible in hope that I could use it to buy or make something for my DoW/M classes. Turns out that is not in the game design, so I've stopped crafting/gathering for profit. I've become the DoW/M you want us all to be, grinding the same dungeons for Philosophy/Mythology which means gil is just an on screen artifact left over from a time when it had purpose.

I know, rich character problems.... but still if you have a ton of gil what are you holding onto it in hopes of?

I'd love to give some other person who did not make money crafting some of this currency for some rare dungeon gear I need. They could then give it to someone for some rare dungeon drop they need and the cycle could keep repeating itself.

to buy titan runs and get relics for example

they are holding onto their gil because they want the house prices to never drop.

Don't fret. Devs will just remove another zero from everyone's gil to fix the economy again cause it worked so great last time!

The only use outside of housing that I've been made aware of is for the beastman tribe mounts/minions. Doesn't come close to spending a million, but it puts a minor dent in it.

I just like looking at all those digits. It shames me that it brings me so much joy. I imagine this is what its like to be a 1%er.

It's not really hording if there's nothing to spend it on. The game gives you pretty much everything just for playing. Even if you do buy a house, within another month or two you'll be back up to a million again -- and you'll already have a house! Two if you count your personal one! :)

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Originally Posted by Aniforani

Until recently I was busy gathering/crafting to make as much money as possible in hope that I could use it to buy or make something for my DoW/M classes. Turns out that is not in the game design, so I've stopped crafting/gathering for profit. I've become the DoW/M you want us all to be, grinding the same dungeons for Philosophy/Mythology which means gil is just an on screen artifact left over from a time when it had purpose.

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I did the same thing... have 4 crafting and one gathering job at 50, and realized there was no point... so I started grinding gear on my main recently... Only the rest of the world had a 3 month head start on me so I just started gearing up end-game before 2.1 came out. The good news is that it's easier to gear up then it used to be.

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Originally Posted by Doki

Don't fret. Devs will just remove another zero from everyone's gil to fix the economy again cause it worked so great last time!

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Lol, I'd rather they just do a one time conversion of gil to mythology and then remove it from the entire game. Even a 1 million gil to 100 myth would make me feel like I didn't completely waste my time crafting. Would give me enough to finish gearing my whm.

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Originally Posted by Aniforani

Real question, say you have no interest in buying a house, is there reason to hoard gil?

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To trade it for real money and move out of China? :P

I hear you OP, I'm in the same boat.

I'm a grand master crafter but I've pretty much stopped crafting for gils all together.

I did spend millions crafting penta melded 2 star accessories but when patch 2.1 happened materia prices took a free fall and so did the philo mat prices...
What a cold slap in the face -_-

Right now housing is the only major gil sink. I'm sure they'll add more in the future.

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Originally Posted by Musashidon

they are holding onto their gil because they want the house prices to never drop.

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Actually a lot are holding on to their gil because SE already said housing will drop. Why spend double what you will pay in a few months?

I can see some social appeal to housing, but this game is driven by impersonal endgame combat activities. 'Kill this stuff as fast as possible, no time to chat person from another server, I just want to be done with this so I can log off and do something fun' is the mentality I encounter outside my free company.
To me though housing and vanity is kind of like dress-up Barbie in a play house while all the other guys are blowing up GI-Joe outside.

tribe mount / minion :P 140k

repairs, teleports...

and powerlevel crafting

no other gil sinks , housing meh

I got 2,1 mil nothing to spend it on. just keeping it there I spend money to buy mats for crafts makes things easier

There is but one reason:

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I see your "Why would you want millions of gil?" and raise you a "Why wouldn't you want millions of gil?".

I for one enjoy knowing that there will be very little that I can't afford, and that I can buy whatever I want, when I want it. Do you keep money in your bank account despite not necessarily needing that money at the moment? I do, and I hold on to extra gil in game that I don't necessarily need too.

For me?

Gil = sidegame

I just horde it to see how much I can get... I'll likely blow most of it on a FC or personal house at some point. Just have to wait for housing prices and my bank account to reach parity.

But I'm guessing it's a LONG way off at this point.

There is no point in being rich in this game. Sorry it took you this long OP, and sorry you had to waste time leveling professions to find out.

Developers have already confirmed twice that crafting is useless. Gil just goes to FC housing, the occasional potion/food buff, and of course, buying relic/extreme mode runs :P

Non-legacy player here sitting on 3.5m, only leveled Alchemy to 50 (thankfully). Nothing to spend it on.

Forbidden Melds? Make yourself a set of two star gear with tier IV forbidden melds, it's better than you might think.

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Originally Posted by Doki

Don't fret. Devs will just remove another zero from everyone's gil to fix the economy again cause it worked so great last time!

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I think that will be completely fair to both us, the people who stuck through the horror of 1.0, and gave the game another chance in 2.0, and the new people. In fact, maybe this time they will take a 0 off our level too! Joy! -_-

Gil = Convenience currency (speed up leveling by spending gil, aesthetics as well)
Tomes = Progression currency (your goals are within this currency)
Seals = The real "wtf is this for" currency

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Originally Posted by Nayto

Seals = The real "wtf is this for" currency

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Buying dark matter, to repair your gear by yourself, to... save gil, yeah.
Also, while levelling, get yourself free, quickly obtained above average gear without needing to grind anything.

I think people horde gil because they are waiting for the off chance that SE will put in something worthwhile to spend gil on.

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Originally Posted by Archona

There is no point in being rich in this game. Sorry it took you this long OP, and sorry you had to waste time leveling professions to find out.

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Weird, I've made a good 20m+ on crafting alone, and that's in this "dead" economy. If crafting isn't making money, you're crafting the wrong things.

No point in being rich in this game? We'll see if you're still saying that when personal housing comes out and you can't afford more than small, while the rest of us who put effort into gil buy big luxurious mansions with gil to spare.

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Originally Posted by MurakumoMillennium

Weird, I've made a good 20m+ on crafting alone, and that's in this "dead" economy. If crafting isn't making money, you're crafting the wrong things.

No point in being rich in this game? We'll see if you're still saying that when personal housing comes out and you can't afford more than small, while the rest of us who put effort into gil buy big luxurious mansions with gil to spare.

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Basically this, leveling all the crafts is easy and takes a week but if you want to make money you just have to look at the market boards see what sells. Do some simple math find out profit margins on items that sell well. Its really easy to make money on the game once you level all crafts.

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Originally Posted by MurakumoMillennium

Weird, I've made a good 20m+ on crafting alone, and that's in this "dead" economy. If crafting isn't making money, you're crafting the wrong things.

No point in being rich in this game? We'll see if you're still saying that when personal housing comes out and you can't afford more than small, while the rest of us who put effort into gil buy big luxurious mansions with gil to spare.

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I can play The Sims for free anytime I want. I don't need to spend hours upon hours gathering and crafting to accumulate gil for a feature that might be added sometime in the future. Everything points to personal housing being basically a customizable inn room. Sorry, point still stands, nothing to spend gil on.

I'm not a materialistic person in the real world, so I really could care less about what your virtual house may or may not look like in the future. You need some help if you think having a fancy house makes you superior to anybody, whether in the real world or in a virtual one.

Keeping my friends geared-up. We've all been close for years IRL so why not blow a 100K of pixel money to penta-meld a stick for them?

The same reason people hoard real money

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Originally Posted by MurakumoMillennium

Weird, I've made a good 20m+ on crafting alone, and that's in this "dead" economy. If crafting isn't making money, you're crafting the wrong things.

No point in being rich in this game? We'll see if you're still saying that when personal housing comes out and you can't afford more than small, while the rest of us who put effort into gil buy big luxurious mansions with gil to spare.

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yeah, "wait". seems to be a recurring theme for this game eh? :3

I would love to be a millionaire but just like in real life I'm broke...sigh.

I had 40 mil, then i bought a FC company house.
Now i have 5 mil.

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Originally Posted by Archona

Sorry, point still stands, nothing to spend gil on.

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Tons of things to spend gil on. What you meant was that there's nothing you want to spend gil on.

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Originally Posted by Archona

I really could care less

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For posterity's sake, how much less?

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Originally Posted by Archona

You need some help if you think having a fancy house makes you superior to anybody, whether in the real world or in a virtual one.

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Nobody said anything about feeling superior to somebody else because of a house. What I did say though is that the same people who say "There's nothing to spend gil on!" will immediately turn to "I can't afford the new things to spend gil on!" when personal housing comes out. I for one would rather make my gil ahead of time and not need to worry about it later.

Rich people can donate a few gil to me, so I can buy a beastman mount. I'm kinda broke since I've been donating all my money to FC so we can get a house.

Money sink = poor people. It's tax deductible!