Has anyone else ever gotten the same weapon from Twintania 5 out of 7 times?

So far our group got 5 monk weapons, 1 whm, 1 drg. We don't run a drg, so basically only 2 out of 8 steady raiders even have coil weapon that they can use towards future progression/main raid.

Okay I understand if it's like 3 of the same weapon dropping, but like 5/7 is a bit ridiculous. So like, drop rate for monk weapon is either exceedingly high or somehow 0.00169%? (1/9 ^ 5)

Is anyone else experiencing this problem? It's really causing our raiders to not even feel motivated to bother with Coil anymore since we always get the same garbage from turn 1-4 when there's still many pieces that never dropped, like tank belt, tank earrings, tank neck, healing chest (It's been close to 4 month now and they've never dropped even once).:confused::mad:

makes you grind and make its take longer to get what you need and thats the ancient design of gear drops.
people say it perfect though or "go back to wow.".

So? I've only seen a total of 4 Healer drops (and got two.. the earrings, and belt which is kinda useless..). Of which 3 are useless for me, as WHM. And that since mid-October.

It's just bad luck. Keep trying, you'll get something sometime.

EDIT: Just be glad you have overall more Healer drops than our FCs statics do. We get next to none, ever. You could have it a lot worse :/

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Originally Posted by indira

makes you grind and make its take longer to get what you need and thats the ancient design of gear drops.
people say it perfect though or "go back to wow.".

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I'm asking out of curiousity since the odds are extremely low.

Please note that I already mentioned that I do understand if the same weapon drops like, 3-4 times out of 7. 5/7 is a bit ridiculous.

I never enjoyed how easy things were to get from WoW after Wrath. I preferred Vanilla and BC. So please don't make random comments that doesn't help answer my question. Thanks.


And I got my WHM weapon, I could stop raiding Coil if I wanted to, but I'm asking as I feel that it's unfair to my group.

Those odds are low, but they're not lottery winning low or anything. Stranger things have indeed happened; you've just had a run of bad luck. For example, I once had a 95% Gathering chance fail four times in a row. I literally facepalmed and actually laughed.

Another one would be this; I run Coil as a SCH and have done since we started back in September, though we don't have any Monks and I'm the only one who plays Monk at level 50, so any Monk items that drop are mine by default. We've run Coil every week since then and all I have to show for my Monk are the Allagan Trousers.

We also have a Bard that's been waiting on the Allagan Chest drop for a few months with nobody to compete with. It's just the way things go. You are however fortunate that you have a team that has Twintania on farm.

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Originally Posted by Adraestea

I'm asking out of curiousity since the odds are extremely low.

Please note that I already mentioned that I do understand if the same weapon drops like, 3-4 times out of 7. 5/7 is a bit ridiculous.

I never enjoyed how easy things were to get from WoW after Wrath. I preferred Vanilla and BC. So please don't make random comments that doesn't help answer my question. Thanks.


And I got my WHM weapon, I could stop raiding Coil if I wanted to, but I'm asking as I feel that it's unfair to my group.

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i did answer your question, to make you pay your sub as long as possible. maybe you should stop asking obvious.

Looks like everyone in your static needs to start leveling monks.

On absurd RNG accidents, I've had the caster boots drop from T2 7 times.

the chance that you've seen it 5 times in 7 is very low.
1/9^5 * 8/9^2

the chance that you will see it 6 times in 8 assuming you've already seen it 5 times in 7 is just 1/9 however.

You got unlucky statistics is not against you.

I think T5 even though haven't beaten it yet, should have dropped tokens and take 5 tokens to buy a weapon because RNG is certainly not RNG.

Loot tables are just messed up in coil in general. SE tried to fix it with a maintenance sometime ago...yeah it didn't do anything anyhow. Kind of sucks your luck turned out that way. =<

Been running coil since 2nd week and have never seen a tank drop. Gogo PLD.

Make sure to use a different seed (partyleader)
/rumormill

well we already know that square is really bad at making drop tables anybody remember the turn 1 dragoon piece every time?

just bad luck as far as the weapons go.
just as a for instance my group has done 9 clears and no monk drops yet and only 2 duplicate drops

It seems in general the only ones that are on the rarer side in general are the books for some reason

Drop rates are really weired. We did 6 times Garuda EX in follow and got 5 times the same melee ring. We did not have melees in the party.

I, for one, has seen the tank ring drop on Garuda EM the first 3 times we killed her in a row, which was fine with me since I'm a PLD main, but yeah, RNG is sometimes a bit wonky.

Were at 3 of 4 dragoon spears in our recent kills. Its getting a little old considering only the first was needed.

4 summoner books, 2 bows, 1 blm wand, mnk wep - the last 3 weeks have been smn books consecutively our group is pretty bumbed about it.

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Originally Posted by indira

makes you grind and make its take longer to get what you need and thats the ancient design of gear drops.
people say it perfect though or "go back to wow.".

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Why would people use the phrase "go back to wow"? Unless they changed it, besides token drops, the best weapon in the game dropped once from the final boss of the hardest raid and could be any classes weapon. Exactly like FFXIV: ARR.

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Originally Posted by xanj

well we already know that square is really bad at making drop tables anybody remember the turn 1 dragoon piece every time?

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Remember it? I'm living it now.

For weapons in T5 we had 3smn, 2drg, 1sch, 1blm, 1mnk. No one use smn for coil and only 1 use drg, the drops not bad but could be better for jobs that we actually use (like brd and pld). Also overal in all turn we sometimes go one week without seen healer or casting gear that we really need and we always get tank gear a lot.

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Originally Posted by indira

i did answer your question, to make you pay your sub as long as possible. maybe you should stop asking obvious.

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right, so randomly though out all of the servers, different weapons have different drop rates to make random people pay their subs longer... he already said that he got his weapon, and is curious to the actual percentage rate of drops per weapon. you referring to wow and subscription fees are not really answering or contributing to the topic at hand.

I kind of wish the loot would be tailored to the current makeup of the raid that completes the content (no war axe drops if no war is present). I'm on the fence about it because of the armory system, but leaning towards that desire.

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Originally Posted by xanj

well we already know that square is really bad at making drop tables anybody remember the turn 1 dragoon piece every time?

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Remember? We still get that...

Beat Turn 4 on 10/4/13. To this day have never seen BRD body, healer body or tanking wrists. It's the nature of this crap loot system.

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Originally Posted by Myrhn

Also overal in all turn we sometimes go one week without seen healer or casting gear that we really need and we always get tank gear a lot.

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Only a week? I've never seen any healer drop since I do coil.