Party Finder Experience.

I'll start by saying I love the Party Finder. I much prefer playing with people on my own server that I can be-friend and later run with them again if they were good.

However, "IF" is the keyword there.

I often see these groups with a comment like "EXP Only, FAIL = KICK", so I decide to join them because I have experience and I'm a relatively good player (at least, I'm usually never the reason for a wipe regardless of the role I'm playing). My experience is, however, that they're just as bad as the people I run into in the DF. I imagine what's happening is people see this and think they can join a group of good players and get carried.

What's everyone else's Party Finder experiences like? I'm on Moogle so maybe all our good players already have static groups maybe? I can't even get past Garuda EM because all the PF groups suck and my FC is small (could join a bigger one but I have friends here so that's not an option).

Not here to complain, just want to see how everyone else is enjoying (or not enjoying) the Party Finder.

"Farm" = I need a clear.
"Need at least 2 primal weapons" = everyone over react on the first mistake and disband.

There is all kind of D-bags posting with no patience and that's fine. I find PF to be great, easy to use and find players. The real trick is when you find like minded/skilled players is to stay in touch, makes life much easier and brings a lot of different FC's together to pool resources. I have to say though, it IS a two way street. So many people lie to get into parties expecting to get carried and a lot of the snobbery may stem from general interactions of such.

I avoid any party finder that writes anything I wouldn't put in there. I don't wanna stress myself :p
And stuff like FAIL=KICK is one of those.

I refrain from joining parties with aggressive comments because there is just so much potential for drama there. If the party leader wrote his comment in a firm -non aggressive- manner & I have full trust in my abilities I join. FAIL = KICK groups are just a no go for me.

My experiences haven't been perfect but the players were thankfully really good & nice, we are all friends now!

I don't think that people enter those groups expecting to be carried. But people needs to win exp somewhere, so... Either you find or build a practice party for a specific phase, or you watch a video, learn the pattern, and join a "exp" party :D... And if you do the last one, chances for a fail the first times are good. (Because you can not practice latter phases of hard phases on Duty Finder)


But if you join one party that says "1 fail = Kick" you shoud just be patient. Keep replacing players till you get a group of players with exp.

Anyway my experience is way better on PF that in DF, and I'm on Moogle. Last night I entered as a tank, with an alter, Duty Finder for Garuda EM (As I never had it done before as a tank, I wanted to give it a first practice there). Tank pulled (The other tank :D) and in the first wave attack of Garuda 1 DPS go out of rocks too soon and die. He says "Oops, sorry, won't happend again". We go on a minute or so and Garuda hides again and makes another wave attack,, another guy dies, 1 guy disconect, another guy disconect, another guy disconect.... That's what I saw of EM primals on Duty Finder.

Most partys for Garuda EM in our server will get it done if you stay with them some time, and you can find a farming group if you are patient enought to spend 30-40 min building that farming group.


But of course you can't expect Party Finder to be something like "Oh, "Garuda EM farming group, only exp", I'm sure that only people with exp will join and we'll be farming since minute one" In you are looking for one you shoud join the group, and if the leader of the group knows the fight and is not the problem, wait till you find 8 players that know it. And expect a few wipes in the middle.

And comunication is a good thing. I mean, anyone can fail once,a group shoud not be disbanded for that...

@OP With the PF notes specifying experience need only apply, ask them when you start, what they mean by experience, so you can be certain you are okay.

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Originally Posted by Elvin

But of course you can't expect Party Finder to be something like "Oh, "Garuda EM farming group, only exp", I'm sure that only people with exp will join and we'll be farming since minute one" In you are looking for one you shoud join the group, and if the leader of the group knows the fight and is not the problem, wait till you find 8 players that know it. And expect a few wipes in the middle.

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I'm willing to stay, but when the tanks rage at the fact a DPS got hit by the blast before going into the Spiny Plume dome and leave straight away and then everyone else leaves the group, it gets frustrating. I think I'm getting really unlucky on Moogle because I've joined several different groups and tried creating my own to no avail.

But yeah, I guess I should stop joining Fail = Kick parties. I did find a really good Coil party this week that did 1-3 pretty well (I even got 2 pieces of loot for my main class), but anything else I've had horrible luck with.

I was really bummed when people weren't using it after the update, but I'm glad to see it being used now. Its so hard to get Titan wins no matter how good you are at it, if you can't find a party that is as well. Sometimes my FC doesn't need any help with anything so its fun to be able to see someone needing help with titan, chimera, etc and just jump into one of the empty slots. Now...if only we could use it to get 24 people for CT.

PF has overall been a good addition to the game but it could be better. I don't join farming runs or PFs with high gear requirements, so I don't have an opinion on those. I join PFs for people who are trying to complete relics, people who are learning fights, people who need help completing dungeons, and PFs where the gear requirements are reasonable.

I've had a couple good groups with great people. I've also had groups give up just as quickly as DF does. PF helps with the problem of people joining the wrong type of group, but not as well as I hoped.

Part of the problem is some people don't read the PF description. People say things like "I thought this was a farming run" or they quit after the first failure when the PF said "training run, be ok with dying and trying again".

Well, I don't think that 1 fail = Kick is that bad. Party leader put his rules, you like them, you join, you don't like them , you don't join.
It's just that I personally think that everyone can fail once...

I saw worse things, like "ONLY EXP, NO RETARDS", wich is offensive and probably reportable :D

I've used it twice. Once for my first run at the Dhorme Chimera (probably butchered that), which went fine, and once that, at the time, was for Hydra, but the group ended up doing everything past that to Titan HM, not even caring about the fact I still had to run around unlocking Garuda HM and Titan HM, let alone having never run any of the three.

I too love the party finder and can only confirm your experience. Group with "Fail once = kick" in the comment only work 3/10 times. I recently started to just avoid them completly. The party leader is usually the first one to screw up and ofc doesn't leave because he "really" lagged. But if anybody else screws up it is instant replace. Love the double standards.

I think PF is the best feature of 2.1. I really love it and use it a lot to form my own or join others. I have seen it all, from DC rage healers to DD scrubs. I made heaps of new friends through it and for the first time added players to my blist. I even had a healer troll Ifrit run by running to us stacked behind ifrit with searing wind, fun times specially when he knocks you right to Ifirt face next to MT to eat some air changing breath.

Any how a feature like this is priceless IMHO, no more DF for the most part PF all day everyday.

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Originally Posted by Ilenya

I've used it twice. Once for my first run at the Dhorme Chimera (probably butchered that), which went fine, and once that, at the time, was for Hydra, but the group ended up doing everything past that to Titan HM, not even caring about the fact I still had to run around unlocking Garuda HM and Titan HM, let alone having never run any of the three.

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Was that us? We did that for someone recently. Flash Silver & Co :)

I'm still amazed I was able to put a tam tara run together using the party finder, especially considering that even every time the party finder is mentioned on the forums all people talk about are extreme and hm primal fights :P

that's my only experience with the party finder. I'm not sure I want to collect more, judging by what people put up there. I will make it a habit of trying to build at least one lowbie run in there every day, though, simply so people realise you can actually use it for random shenanigans.

ps: if a miracle happens and I ever reach lvl 50 on a battle class, I will most likely use party finder to try and build 'practice runs' specifically for people who .don't. have 'experience' :P

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Originally Posted by Husband

Was that us? We did that for someone recently. Flash Silver & Co :)

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Considering your server says Ragnarok, and I'm on Balmung, I'm guessing no.

Party Finder is a really powerful tool, and easily one of the best things in 2.1. It feels matured, it's nice to use.

Squeeny actually failed in making it more prominent for players when the patch arrived. As usual, they overestimated the curiosity of many.

I want so much for it to be thought of as an usual resource soon so the crude part of shouting spam actually stops... But of course, this would be an indirect consequence of the widespread use of PF.

I'd never enter a group that sounds assholish, so I never faced those issues. Always had a good time.

90% of the farm group are filled with 6/8 first timers

90% of T4 groups are formed from people who passed T2 via enrage and thus have minimal skills in playing their class

90% of the group who ask for ilvl 85+ will think that ilvl is the sole representation of a player's skill

The other remaining groups are usually pretty funny, like the guy setting ilvl requirement to 200 and said chuck norris only

Honestly, any time I see rude comments, I ignore that group altogether. I want to have a good time with a group who's attempting to accomplish the same goal as me. Having people rage because of a wipe or a mistake is not a good time to me and not worth it.

I use PF for WP SRs nobody in Mor Dhona seems to care about anymore. It's like the only way to still do them since there's no single person anymore shouting or reacting to shouts concerning WP

Have to agree with OP. So often you'll see groups looking for experience with ridiculously high ilv requirements (saw ilv76 requested for Titan HM the other day) when in fact they are the inexperienced under-geared one.

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Originally Posted by Versiroth

Having people rage because of a wipe or a mistake is not a good time to me and not worth it.

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I wish people raged here. The instant a wipe happens, you hear that "shing" with "Light Party" on the screen. I try to only play with people from FC and LS now.

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Originally Posted by TeganLaron

Have to agree with OP. So often you'll see groups looking for experience with ridiculously high ilv requirements (saw ilv76 requested for Titan HM the other day) when in fact they are the inexperienced under-geared one.

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As if the extra HP from VIT on high ilvl gear will help anything at Titan, full DL will suffice but yeah... I guess people like to hide their behind their ilvl because they raced to 50 and started farming myth asap. A lot of baddies are full ilvl 90 but don't get standard endgame mechanics at all.

Party finder does rule