Congrats XIV ARR!

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Having played some of the other entries to this genre I have to agree with GI.

Do you think XIV ARR is the best of the year? If so why?

My personal opinion is that after 2.1 I finally have the freedom of choice on what content to do and there's so much stuff it's really up to you the player to decide what kind of activities you feel like doing. Also the main storyline keeps me interested to see what's coming next =)

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Originally Posted by Seif

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Having played some of the other entries to this genre I have to agree with GI.

Do you think XIV ARR is the best of the year? If so why?

My personal opinion is that after 2.1 I finally have the freedom of choice on what content to do and there's so much stuff it's really up to you the player to decide what kind of activities you feel like doing. Also the main storyline keeps me interested to see what's coming next =)

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+1 man..i feel the same way

Cool! I'm glad xiv won. :)

FF14 is really great fun. Except for 2 details.

1. CT lockout
2. TITAN "TROLL" X

3. Glitched unbalanced PvP

Yeah. Out of all the MMO's released last year, I would consider ARR the best.

FFXIV ARR has some weak elements but i agree with those editors, FFXIV is the best FF experience in this gen after all. FFXIII made me sad though i prefer singeplayer game. FFXIV ARR brought me to MMO world.

What other MMORPGs launched last year?
Honest question... I don't follow gaming news besides FFXIV and PSO2 (Sega pls... give us the western version already)

This game has it's ups and downs and I've probably joked and complained more than I should have regarding this game. However, I'm still subscribed and will probably continue to do so =). To the hopefully even brighter future of this game! /raises his fine glassware to the sky

I totally disagree!

They are slowly turning the FF14 into a fully dn grinding game! If i wanted such i would of go as example Vindictus and is free!


There is no economy, market on my server is fully crashed ! You can get vote kicked for no reason at all ! And how they introduced the housing is a joke, ive never been in a mmo where you cant get a basic house, in all mmos ive been you get the basic and from it you upgrade it with lot of effort and time!

And enough with the dns and armors, we got only this in all the patches and next 2.2 is no different !

Sure CT is fun and the treasure hunt but it makes fun only couple of times a week ! And the little quests we got were interesting but they were little ! But thats all, all things are same and you have to grind in dns over and over again!

I still dont have all my crafting classses to 50, i really really like crafting, and the crafting system in this game is one of the best ive seen, but when in the end of the day you end up selling items for 80gills for witch you werked hard to make my motivation goes allay ! And phillo craft items by me you sell for 3-2k !

Most of my friends and company members left the game, because it turned to be too much of a grinding game and was getting boring !

I like the game but need to be improved alot and fast there are really big problems in it but once solved it will turn in a magic game !

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Its funny because i think the game is quite opposite. FFXIV doesnt have anything to grind at all. Problem i have in this game is static forced for coil due to run locked out.

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Originally Posted by Livi

Its funny because i think the game is quite opposite. FFXIV doesnt have anything to grind at all. Problem i have in this game is static forced for coil due to run locked out.

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Crafting grind - Make HQ item over and over again for repeatable levee.
Gathering grind - Run to node, hit X, X , X , X , X .
Fate grind - Run back and forth to zerg fates, flash flash flash.
Gear grind - Run CT over and over again to get the piece you want.
etc etc etc

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Originally Posted by Livi

Its funny because i think the game is quite opposite. FFXIV doesnt have anything to grind at all. Problem i have in this game is static forced for coil due to run locked out.

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You are joking !

To get one piece of armor you have to grind in the dn....example CT...this week i had 11+ run with 0 drops for Monk ! So if this is not grinding the maybe this....for stones you have to go dns over and over again!
All the things you get from the dns when you do them over and over and over again !

If this is not grinding then please tell me what you think grinding is ?

Ah patch 2.2 new dns new armors soo great more grinding ! I expect that they release more new areas to explore! There are plenty of dn grinding games outside, i dont want that they turn this nice game with big potential into such thing !

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Originally Posted by Doo

Crafting grind - Make HQ item over and over again for repeatable levee.
Gathering grind - Run to node, hit X, X , X , X , X .
Fate grind - Run back and forth to zerg fates, flash flash flash.
Gear grind - Run CT over and over again to get the piece you want.
etc etc etc

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I had all DoH lv50 on October and i didnt even rush leveling those. I didnt feel like grinding or anything at all.

I meant i stored up 60 leves and leveled my ALC from 1-50 in 2+ hours.

You sound like you want everything instant lv50 which is hilarious. Leveling in this game is really fast.

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Originally Posted by MikoteAstra

You are joking !

To get one piece of armor you have to grind in the dn....example CT...this week i had 11+ run with 0 drops for Monk ! So if this is not grinding the maybe this....for stones you have to go dns over and over again!
All the things you get from the dns when you do them over and over and over again !

If this is not grinding then please tell me what you think grinding is ?

Ah patch 2.2 new dns new armors soo great more grinding ! I expect that they release more new areas to explore! There are plenty of dn grinding games outside, i dont want that they turn this nice game with big potential into such thing !

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It does sound like bad luck. I've been clearing t4 since late Sep and still havent seen a single Allagan Boots of Aiming :rolleyes:.

If you're looking for a specific drop, gl with the horrible RNG in this game lol.

Grinding?

PLEASE TELL ME WHICH MMORPG ISNT A GRIND

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Originally Posted by Livi

I had all DoH lv50 on October and i didnt even rush leveling those. I didnt feel like grinding or anything at all.

I meant i stored up 60 leves and leveled my ALC from 1-50 in 2+ hours.

You sound like you want everything instant lv50 which is hilarious. Leveling in this game is really fast.

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All mmos have grind, if it didn't then you would of beaten it already.

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You are right. This game has issues.

But it was still the best MMO of the year. By far.

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Originally Posted by Doo

All mmos have grind, if it didn't then you would of beaten it already.

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When people claim an mmo has a grind they mean a grind. Yes every mmo has "grind" including FF14 but if you think the grinding required in 14 is the same as say.. EQ you're insane. For good or ill the time it takes to accomplish things is much much less than many mmorpgs on the market.

4. Bad economy
5. Exuberant FC housing prices (Legacy servers)
6. Repetitive dungeons
7. No outdoor bosses besides Odin and Behemoth!

This is the MMORPG with the least grind I've ever seen. Even casuals playing casually can do endgame, how ludicrous is that?

Please.

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4. Bad economy
5. Exuberant FC housing prices (Legacy servers)
6. Repetitive dungeons
7. No outdoor bosses besides Odin and Behemoth!

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uhmm yea but uhmm

4. yea because of the previous expensive housing price, then the overflow of philosophy
5. uhmm is going to be reduce...
6. can't really say much, i dont even feel any repetitive.. maybe you can elaborate more..
7. coming soon, will have primals roaming around too.

not saying is perfect, but some of your points of arguments are.. very low.

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This is the MMORPG with the least grind I've ever seen. Even casuals playing casually can do endgame, how ludicrous is that?

Please.

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It's quite common actually. FFXIV is tougher to get coil done since it forces you into a static and locks you out so you can't help others.

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Originally Posted by Hoshikogi

I really cannot think of any MMO that's not a "grind". You "grind" for levels, you "grind" for gear, you "grind" for in game currency, you "grind" quests or special events." In essence any game mechanic can be considered a "grind" because it's technically a waste of your time for simple amusement or an unusual event that fills one's time.

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It's true but most players only consider something a grind only when it's a grind they don't enjoy doing.

I really cannot think of any MMO that's not a "grind". You "grind" for levels, you "grind" for gear, you "grind" for in game currency, you "grind" quests or special events." In essence any game mechanic can be considered a "grind" because it's technically a waste of your time for simple amusement or an unusual event that fills one's time. I suppose I could go a step further and say reading words (within a book or on a digital screen) is a "grind" as well. Even daily life could be considered a "grind"; although variety and the choices we make can diminish one's attention away from such details.

I really only consider something a grind when little to no physical or emotional benefit comes about from the hard work one place into an activity. For example, leveling all crafts to 50 back in 1.0, a task that took me ~3 years to accomplish. Then SE allows new players to obtain the same quality of crafting in less than 1-2 months and the markets completely crash, leaving all my work for naught.

So far I've obtained various relics/+1, 2 primal EX weapons, a few relic armor sets, and quite a bit of alligan armor. But I really don't feel as though I've accomplished anything worth obtaining such items.

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Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce

uhmm yea but uhmm

4. yea because of the previous expensive housing price, then the overflow of philosophy

not saying is perfect, but some of your points of arguments are.. very low.

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#4 is not a... very low argument for a whole lot of people. The bad economy happened on Day 1 of open beta. It is bad because it has little reason to exist, has full on classes with huge potential that isn't being used for anything. Not because of 2.1 and FC housing.

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#4 is not a... very low argument for a whole lot of people. The bad economy happened on Day 1 of open beta. It is bad because it has little reason to exist, has full on classes with huge potential that isn't being used for anything. Not because of 2.1 and FC housing.

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it went down the hill more ever since housing was up and introduction to more ways to gain philosophy.

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Originally Posted by Seirra_Lanzce

uhmm yea but uhmm

4. yea because of the previous expensive housing price, then the overflow of philosophy
5. uhmm is going to be reduce...
6. can't really say much, i dont even feel any repetitive.. maybe you can elaborate more..
7. coming soon, will have primals roaming around too.

not saying is perfect, but some of your points of arguments are.. very low.

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4. Economy is bad due to Gear not being recycled with other gear factors. Crafting is now useless period and everyone is a jack of all trades without any speed bumps ( I know I did the 1.0 and 2.0 crafting)
5. True but houses are still too expensive ( why punish those who kept your game on life support? )
6. A different taste for different folks ( not a bad thing). I just like other endgame stuff like some real PvP (not chase healer around the pole). Endgame crafting, endgame exploration, anyhting other than grinding dungeons over and over! Bring back BCNMS
7. Will wait and see and not just primals , I would love to see NM's and HNM's!