A Visual Guide to the Bone Dragon in Crystal Tower

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I've never been in a group that did it that way.

This looks like a pretty common sense strategy and certainly seems like the way the developers intended it to be beaten. Thanks for the tip!

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Originally Posted by Versiroth

I've never been in a group that did it that way.

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There is literally no other way to do it... unless you guys fail a lot. Maybe you are not paying attention?

Also never done it like this.

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Originally Posted by Vech

There is literally no other way to do it... unless you guys fail a lot. Maybe you are not paying attention?

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Actually there is. Take the bone dragon all the way to the end of a row (usually north) and just keep skellies near the south. As long as it's not the same platform it's fine.

A group (near CTs release) swore by the strat of taking the dragon to a wall and taking all skeles to the opposite wall. We wiped 6 times and disbanded. I hope people still don't do it that way, keeping dragon mid makes so much more sense.

One time I was in a group that did it this way.

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Originally Posted by Vactus

Actually there is. Take the bone dragon all the way to the end of a row (usually north) and just keep skellies near the south. As long as it's not the same platform it's fine.

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Changing the position of the boss (a really inefficient position at that) doesn't change the overall strat.

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Originally Posted by Vech

There is literally no other way to do it... unless you guys fail a lot. Maybe you are not paying attention?

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Sure there is and no, I've only wiped on this boss maybe once. In all of the groups I've been in, the MT takes the boss to the end of the row opposite the entrance. The tanks then spread the skeletons out. There's still plenty of room to do so without them getting to close to one another. I'm not saying your strategy is inferior, as it's likely the intended one, but saying "There is literally no other way to do it" is literally wrong.

I actually like doing it this way better TBH
http://i.imgur.com/TWJph4V.png?1

Dragon at the entrance

I tried it like that a few times my first try, but with dragon in middle we kept on wiping, we tried it with dragon on the end of the northmost row and did it fine. I'd imagine the breath cone attack would be pretty bad if you did it in middle.

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Originally Posted by Amyas

I tried it like that a few times my first try, but with dragon in middle we kept on wiping, we tried it with dragon on the end of the northmost row and did it fine. I'd imagine the breath cone attack would be pretty bad if you did it in middle.

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His cone attack is actually the main benefit to tanking him against a wall. As long as the off tanks aren't retarded, it's quite easy to arrange the skeletons so they never get close together.

As a melee DD, I strongly prefer to either

a) stand in fire while killing skeletons
b) not kill skeletons so I don't have to stand in fire

Please remove this travesty, tia

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Originally Posted by BoomerOU

A group (near CTs release) swore by the strat of taking the dragon to a wall and taking all skeles to the opposite wall. We wiped 6 times and disbanded. I hope people still don't do it that way, keeping dragon mid makes so much more sense.

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I literally just came out of a CT that took the dragon north. In fact, I've yet to see a group try it with the dragon in the middle. Wall dragon is perfectly fine as long as the remaining tanks aren't asleep or fighting over aggro.

Never seen a single group keep the dragon in the center or move him to the entrance.

Always North.

Either way, doesn't matter as long as you kill the skellies far enough apart from one another.

Never saw a main tank holding the Bone Dragon in the middle, it's always North platform.

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Originally Posted by Lyrinn

I literally just came out of a CT that took the dragon north. In fact, I've yet to see a group try it with the dragon in the middle. Wall dragon is perfectly fine as long as the remaining tanks aren't asleep or fighting over aggro.

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Honestly, this is the biggest issue I have period. I'll Tomahawk or Shield lob, run toward the end of an empty column, only to have to run all the way back because some other tank grabbed him and ran a different direction. This would be understandable if we both tried at the same time, but I've had times that another tank would do this when the skeleton was half way to the end platform.

Also, I've had healers throw a regen on me or heal me while I'm running the skeleton into position..... don't do that! Those couple SL/THs aren't always enough to stop it from charging you before I get it to were it needs to go.

its odd ive only seen the take to the north strategy a couple of times. Mostly we just tank him in the middle. Skeletons never die that neatly either its either on the first platform with people screaming not to kill there or the tanks just randomly shield lob them to death fighting over aggro.

Every run I've done it's always been the dragon in the middle, was not even aware people moved the dragon. But also every run I've done, no one has explained anything yet so I don't know what the skeletons actually do (I just kill them as quickly as I can), or what those towers for King Behemoth do (I just stop the bombs cause they're BOMBS!).

Tanks pulling the dragon to a wall is annoying as fuck for melee players since they have to run through the poison to dps skeletons. I can't f'n stand it lol. Keep it in there center >.>

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Originally Posted by Versiroth

Honestly, this is the biggest issue I have period. I'll Tomahawk or Shield lob, run toward the end of an empty column, only to have to run all the way back because some other tank grabbed him and ran a different direction. This would be understandable if we both tried at the same time, but I've had times that another tank would do this when the skeleton was half way to the end platform.

Also, I've had healers throw a regen on me or heal me while I'm running the skeleton into position..... don't do that! Those couple SL/THs aren't always enough to stop it from charging you before I get it to were it needs to go.

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I queue up a Halone by refreshing fast -> savage over and over until a skele spawns. Then just tab the skele, halone as you run by, and you'll have aggro (unless provoked) no matter what.

Middle is more simple. Just stun the Dragon's cone aoe after 2nd wave.

Killing it in the middle is potentially dangerous if melees/OTs are running the skeletons to the platforms as they could get hit by the dragon as well. It would also be annoying as a healer to have to run around the dragon to heal people effectively, rather than just running through the circle platform. Essentially, the strategy on the OP is worse than the strategy people actually use. Please remove or modify it.

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Originally Posted by BoomerOU

I queue up a Halone by refreshing fast -> savage over and over until a skele spawns. Then just tab the skele, halone as you run by, and you'll have aggro (unless provoked) no matter what.

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It's hard to do that in the runs I've been in as the MT always takes the Dragon to the far north. So, the off tanks are just standing around in the middle waiting for a Skeleton to spawn.

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Originally Posted by Versiroth

It's hard to do that in the runs I've been in as the MT always takes the Dragon to the far north. So, the off tanks are just standing around in the middle waiting for a Skeleton to spawn.

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Ahh I can see that. Another reason I prefer drag mid I suppose.

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Originally Posted by Versiroth

It's hard to do that in the runs I've been in as the MT always takes the Dragon to the far north. So, the off tanks are just standing around in the middle waiting for a Skeleton to spawn.

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How ive always seen it done as well. Never seen anyone even try to tank the dragon in the middle out of like 15 runs. Tomahawk the skele, and run off to the platform with it.

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Originally Posted by Amyas

I tried it like that a few times my first try, but with dragon in middle we kept on wiping, we tried it with dragon on the end of the northmost row and did it fine. I'd imagine the breath cone attack would be pretty bad if you did it in middle.

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Stun it...

Seriously, anytime the dragon gets pulled from the center I just want to afk and facepalm. On phase 3 it really doesn't matter because there are no skeletons, but in my experience, the fight goes so much smoother if he stays in the middle.

I've only ever seen him tanked in the middle. People have thrown out suggestions to pull the dragon north, but I've never seen anyone actually follow that advice.

normally the group i play with pulled the dragon north to protect everyone from the Cone AOE which most people agree with once we tell them
i did not however know the cone AOE was stunnable because the tanks said they tried to stun

plus it dosnt help when we keep the dragon centre most people kill the skeletons so close to it we can't kill them before the mass whipe

This is the same strategy IGN has on their Wiki guide to ARR.

When I first see your post I think you were trolling, since I assume all people tank the bone lizard the way you are drawing, but after read the answers I was:

in other server you tank the monster moving it to other sides? really?? :eek: At least for me That just make the fight harder, because make easy to the skeleton to run toward the boss, just amazing how people cant assign 1,2,3 platforms to A.B.C Partys … what is next? healers don’t toss heavy to skeletons because they never think on that?. ;)

I have 10 runs in the dungeon and the only time I have see a wipe is when a party keep pulling the bone dragon in some uncommon direction, until my party force him to move back to the middle.

The entire alliance was; wtf are you doing!? Since they never reply at Japanese I am sure now there were from other server, no wonder why I see complains about people no be able to beat that dungeon.

Now I have curiosity, how other forms you have to tank the rest of the monsters?

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Originally Posted by Versiroth

I've never been in a group that did it that way.

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I haven't either...except that I always thought to myself that this would be most effective...because it seems people tank the boss on one of the paths. Doesn't a skeleton spawn right where I always see it tanked? Isn't that what we DON'T want?

The biggest issues for me when i run CT Bone Dragon are

Tanks: fight over adds, dont know to kill on sep platforms

DD: kill bone dragon before skellies are down, kill skellies before positioned.

The link listed by the OP is the way it should be done, obviously how it was intended to be done
But taking dragon against a wall is not bad either, as long as tanks and DD know how to arrange
skellies. But lately the groups i have gone in are worse and worse

The most interesting strategy I've seen was to keep the dragon in the middle and pile all the skeletons on the same platform far from the center. First time was a wipe but second one, when they all rose, DPS wailed them down so fast it was cool (skele's didn't get halfway to the dragon).

Other than that, every run I've done (only about 8) has been the dragon in the center strategy.

On my server everyone and their mother pulls the dragon to the north end platform for no reason. It's mind-boggling.

Dragon in center for every CT I've done.
World: Midgardsormr
Group: Aether

Only maybe three times out of dozens of runs per week have I seen the dragon tanked in the center.
I wonder why there's such a difference between what some people are seeing here.

For the sake of success though, it doesn't matter where the dragon goes as long as OTs and DPS don't screw things up. More often than not, it's the DPS that I see messing things up. They either destroy skels where they stand without waiting for OTs to finish positioning them, or they kill the dragon before the last set of skels are dead.

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Originally Posted by Spiral

Every run I've done it's always been the dragon in the middle, was not even aware people moved the dragon. But also every run I've done, no one has explained anything yet so I don't know what the skeletons actually do (I just kill them as quickly as I can), or what those towers for King Behemoth do (I just stop the bombs cause they're BOMBS!).

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The short of it is that if a skeleton reaches the dragon when it's dead, then the alliance is hit by an AoE.
If a skeleton died before the dragon died, then it'll be slow once it revives, giving you ample time to kill it again.
But if two skeletons are ever near each other while they're trying to reach the dead dragon, then they'll get a purple tether between them and run super fast, pretty much guaranteeing the alliance will be hit by two AoEs.

For Behemoth, I was told that if tanks aren't there to click on the towers when they need to, then the alliance gets hit by lightning AoEs. And then if any bombs manage to self-destruct and destroy a tower, then the lightning AoEs are even bigger.

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Originally Posted by Zipdar

The most interesting strategy I've seen was to keep the dragon in the middle and pile all the skeletons on the same platform far from the center. First time was a wipe but second one, when they all rose, DPS wailed them down so fast it was cool (skele's didn't get halfway to the dragon).

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I want to see that. But I can't imagine the average alliance listening long enough to coordinate something like that.

Never fought the dragon in the middle. Ever.

Dragon gets taken to the far north. Healers usually stand on the middle circle platform. Bones dragged away from each other opposite the dragon.

The main tank and where they tank the bone dragon is never the problem. It's not hard to adjust to having it in the center or pulled to the edge. What causes wipes are off tanks who can't position skeletons or fight with each other over aggro, and DD who start burning the skeletons too soon and killing them in really unhelpful places.

Instead of wasting time yelling at the tank for not doing it "your way," please pay attention to doing your job and making sure skeletons are handled correctly.