I think SATAN design the TITAN EX FIGHT

Its the hardest of them 3, would you agree ? Why they put ifrit last then ?

When you complain titan HM is hard, is like a walk in a park once you experienced titan ex. On such small platform, u have to dodge bomb, dodge 5 directions landslide, while dpsing 2 adds lol. Satan did the design i suppose.

Once you learned to dodge bombs, and etc, its very much manageable. The hardest part of this fight : required consistence performance and zero margin of error through the team of all the party. One guy mess up is wipe. one dps down is wipe, one tank down is wipe, one healer down is absolute wipe lol. Non recoverable condition if one of your team is "thrown out of plaform death"

the 1st thing i do everytime after dodging bombs is check whether all my party still alive.

Already 5 days working on this big guy, the best pull i get is downed till 5% HP on the 2nd superbomb. Which one dps is thrown out, and the rest is panic dpsing the superbomb, and miss a landweight lol

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Originally Posted by kyorakun

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Appreciate the offer, but no thanks. one is not my style and two i dont have the money i believe lol. i will downed it this week, we are getting close

ask ur pt member to eat 1 bomb (roll bomb) if not confident to dodge e landslide.

single bomb should not one shot any of ur pt member

We need more posts like this.

Rant about the difficulty but resolve to finish it eventually. We've all been there where things ingame can get too frustrating. Nothing wrong to let it out. Much better than those who rant, declare the situation as hopeless then tell Square Enix to fix things...

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Originally Posted by erikdaae

ask ur pt member to eat 1 bomb (roll bomb) if not confident to dodge e landslide.

single bomb should not one shot any of ur pt member

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As a healer that has to deal which such issues, I got to say. NO just NO.

Not only is it a use of mana in a fight that over challenging to healers. It also takes healer focus away from the MT, whose life drops extremely fast like a rollercoster during final phrase. 2.36 seconds to cast a spell and then focus back to tank makes a huge difference in this crazy overly tuned crazy nut case fight.

As a DPS, if you are not supposed to take dmg then don't. In this healer intensive fight, you do not want to stress your healer more. Sure way to wipe ASAP.

I love how people, especially tanks and dps, always says learn the rotation then go eat unnecessary dmg. Well healers got rotations too. And I think it is bout time healers stick to them and heck any deviations caused by dps players.

We beat it, but can't consistently beat it.. It's so stupid, everyone can know the fight, dodge well, but 1 lag spike or dc and it's done. For some reason, those have also been extremely common last week. So many attempts with 10% left where we have someone outright DC. The fight is fine if everyone was on perfect connections, sadly, that's not the case. In an FC with 60 members, trying to get everyone through titan EX made me hate the fight. I literally know it by heart and still die due to lag sometimes or bugs.. if you dps too fast, phases skip in the middle and it throws everyone off. It just seems so poorly implemented. Like the landslide will appear and cancel, and titan will jump and begin next phase.

Hardest part about this fight is the lag, nothing else. What makes this so much worse than titan HM is that you could still beat titan HM with 5 people alive, in extreme, 1 down means game over without allagan weapons.

someone eating a bomb shouldn't be an issue honestly your tanks shouldn't drop dead that quickly and theres plenty of time to top someone off.
(btw coming from a healer who's slave driver leader makes him help people with this :p)

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Originally Posted by kyorakun

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This is why we can't have nice things.

There's one time you really cannot eat a bomb and that's right before the heart dies. Unless your scholar has excess lustrates or your whm wants to waste a benediction on you, you're pretty much dead and you make the transition with the egis that much harder.

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Originally Posted by 3rdeye

One guy mess up is wipe. one dps down is wipe, one tank down is wipe, one healer down is absolute wipe lol.

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I agree with you that Titan Ex is the hardest of the 3 Primals but THIS is not true

First time we beat it actually was a 7 man essentially since the other dps died very early on. It is not a DPS heavy fight in any way, survive and you win. I rather enjoy the fight compared to Garuda and about on par with Ifrit.

I love Titan just don't like the party's lol. A lot of people want you at ili85 for it. Same for garuda, I managed to down her with ili75 as a tank now I'm gonna be 77 after another piece so I'm gonna keep hitting Titan, and your hp doesn't drop that fast only on one attack does it really give you a wallop otherwise he hits like girl

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Originally Posted by 3rdeye

Its the hardest of them 3, would you agree ? Why they put ifrit last then ?

When you complain titan HM is hard, is like a walk in a park once you experienced titan ex. On such small platform, u have to dodge bomb, dodge 5 directions landslide, while dpsing 2 adds lol. Satan did the design i suppose.

Once you learned to dodge bombs, and etc, its very much manageable. The hardest partero margin of error through the team of all the party. One guy mess up is wipe. one dps down is wipe, one tank down is wipe, one healer down is absolute wipe lol. Non recoverable condition if one of your team is "thrown out of plaform death"

the 1st thing i do everytime after dodging bombs is check whether all my party still alive.

Already 5 days working on this big guy, the best pull i get is downed till 5% HP on the 2nd superbomb. Which one dps is thrown out, and the rest is panic dpsing the superbomb, and miss a landweight lol

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Garuda was much harder as a tank

TBH, I have found that running 2 WHM make this fight a bit easier Since 2.1 Cure3 buff. basicaly every time Titan jump have WHM pre-cast Cure3 so that it goes off right after he come down from Geocrush, this will instant top off everybody in your party. samething with stump 1 Cure 3 from each WHM with good timing will completely heal every after stump.

I think it's a fun fight but if you lag even the slightest you're done. Tried to dodge double plumes after heart phase last night, was standing in the same spots as everyone else, I get nailed with 4x plume damage. -.-

It's not that Titan ex is too hard, it's that one little mistake can snowball in Titan.

It's a fun fight, once you get the "feel" for it then it gets mechanical like Titan HM.

From a healers POV its pretty easy to clear with an organized group once you get a feel for his rotation.Recently I've just been queuing for it in DF for some practice and have noticed a number of things.

1) The fight not being a dps race is only half true. There are two points in the fight that will wipe your party without enough dps.

A) End of heart phase.
If your team does not kill heart fast enough you will get a majority /the whole rotation of:

Bombs -> Landslide -> STOMPs -> WoTL -> Geocrush.

If it gets to that point then odds are the groups experience with the fight / gear is lacking and someone is going to eat something and die to geocrush.

B) The whole post heart phase.
Unless your group is geared to the brim (ilvl 85+) , having one dps down during post heart pretty much ensures you will hit titan's enrage upheavel.

2) People can't dodge/ don't understand how to dodge casting / "red circle" abilities.

You would think people would know by now but some players just don't understand that you DO NOT need to wait for animations to complete before moving back to the affected area.

As soon as you see titan's cast bar completing you should be moving and be in the appropriate safe position by the time the animation ends.

Players who constantly die to the double X ( not sure what to call them) bombs + landslide during egis are the ones who do not still understand this and will cause you to wipe to the enrage. Unless they under are heavily carried. It is unlikely they will ever clear the fight.

Protip 1: You should always focus target titan ( healers specically ) to see when his casts complete.

Protip 2: If you are unsure, it is ALWAYS better to eat a bomb then getting hit by landslide.

The problem with Titan EX is less its complexity and more the fact that the fight does not take into account it is being done over an internet connection. A healthy internet connection can and does have small bumps in latency, and it doesn't take much to die to weight of the land. It just takes one guy to get blown up and suddenly healers have a distraction on their hands on top of trying to keep everyone alive. Also, for most groups doing Titan EX, the loss of a single member DOES constitute a wipe. Unless your members have found a way to use a dps meter safely and are decked in some seriously high end stuff, 7 manning superbombs is going to be rather difficult without a limit break available (which is generally used on adds). They need to increase the cast time on Weight of land slightly to compensate.

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Originally Posted by kyorakun

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How much ?

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Originally Posted by gadenp

As a healer that has to deal which such issues, I got to say. NO just NO.

Not only is it a use of mana in a fight that over challenging to healers. It also takes healer focus away from the MT, whose life drops extremely fast like a rollercoster during final phrase. 2.36 seconds to cast a spell and then focus back to tank makes a huge difference in this crazy overly tuned crazy nut case fight.

As a DPS, if you are not supposed to take dmg then don't. In this healer intensive fight, you do not want to stress your healer more. Sure way to wipe ASAP.

I love how people, especially tanks and dps, always says learn the rotation then go eat unnecessary dmg. Well healers got rotations too. And I think it is bout time healers stick to them and heck any deviations caused by dps players.

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it is the lesser of 2 evil,
eat bomb or kana landslide = u pick