Proposed changes to PVP

1. Make PVP CC work as follows.

All forms of character control loss bind/stun/slow/sleep have their initial durations be a maximum of 8 seconds and all on the same timer. For a maximum of 8 4 2.

From the end of the 3rd CC effect you are CC immune for 30 seconds

2. Regular attacks no longer interupt casters, but all interupt/silence effects have no DR and are instant with animation lock etc removed.

3. Sprint is removed from PVP

4. No form of ressurection is permitted in PVP

5. Pets cannot be resummoned deal 1/2 damage/healing.

6. Place all skills used in pvp on a 1s global cooldown/cast time the game is just too slow at 2.5s

7. Disable auto facing for pvp

8. Dsiable jumping in pvp

If sprint is removed, melee is completely screwed.

If global is 1 sec what is the idea of spell speed/skill speed anymore?

Sleep maximum duration of 8 seconds... takes 2.5 seconds to cast with no Spell speed Max Spell Speed cast of 2.2 seconds. IF that were the cast I'd be ignoring Sleep and just Fire 1 and hope for a Firestarter proc which is more promising.

The idea is sleep takes 1 second to cast lasts for 8 everything takes 1 second to cast lowered by spell speed/skill speed.

Combat is too slow and boring and CC just lasts too long too much time out of every minute you can't do anything.

Please don't ever propose changes again. Thanks.

Rather fix jumping instead of disabling it

Have you ever played a blm in pvp? Nerf their sleep to 8 4 2 AND take their sprint? What is next with your 'balancing'- perhaps a requirement that all BLMs have to automatically go mid at start, use the sit emote, and wait to die?

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Originally Posted by keltareen

All forms of character control loss bind/stun/slow/sleep have their initial durations be a maximum of 8 seconds and all on the same timer. For a maximum of 8 4 2.

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I feel that you didn't think this through. Your saying you want STUN to first last 8 seconds. followed by 4 followed by 2? so no purify means stunned for 14 seconds? you dont think 14 second stun isnt more OP then sleep right now?

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Originally Posted by keltareen

1. Disable everything I lost to without realizing most of it is counterable.
2. Make lots of unnecessary changes that don't need to be made just for the sake of changing things

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Fixed that for you.



Most of what you suggested is so absurd its not even worth addressing, but I'll say one thing about CC:

Not all crowd control has equal effects, thus not all crowd control should have the same durations. Stun lasts shorter than other CC because it is a total disable and it can't be healed or removed by anything other than Purify (And thus, you can attack without breaking the effect). Sleep can be removed easily by damage (thus you can't use it on something you're attacking and by leeches/esuna, Bind also can and does not disable actions as long as the target is in front of you. Heavy slows you down but does not disable you. Finally, resistance materia reduces CC durations and you are expected to have it eventually, that's why the materia is obtained through PvP- it is meant for PvP equipment. status resistance has a substantial effect with enough of a quantity.

Also making stun 8 seconds would INCREASE the duration of every stun in the game. (lol)

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Combat is too slow and boring and CC just lasts too long too much time out of every minute you can't do anything.

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Slow? boring? you can't be serious. This isn't a twitch action game. 1s would be insanely fast. JUst because you have a miniscule attention span doesn't mean it needs to be altered.

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Originally Posted by keltareen

1. Make PVP CC work as follows.

All forms of character control loss bind/stun/slow/sleep have their initial durations be a maximum of 8 seconds and all on the same timer. For a maximum of 8 4 2.

From the end of the 3rd CC effect you are CC immune for 30 seconds

2. Regular attacks no longer interupt casters, but all interupt/silence effects have no DR and are instant with animation lock etc removed.

3. Sprint is removed from PVP

4. No form of ressurection is permitted in PVP

5. Pets cannot be resummoned deal 1/2 damage/healing.

6. Place all skills used in pvp on a 1s global cooldown/cast time the game is just too slow at 2.5s

7. Disable auto facing for pvp

8. Dsiable jumping in pvp

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Originally Posted by PacAttack

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1000 characters cant explain how much i laughed at this

I love how people don't read the full post and think.

It really does all balance out.

Very few attacks would interupt casting so casters would be able to cast and healers be able to heal

There would be low incentive to run around and not fight

8 second cc which you are all yammering about is equivilent to 20 second cc if you don't change the GCD to 1s Also under my sysem sleep is actually harder to avoid try getting around that corner from a 1s cast.

Its not an earth shattering nerf its a 33% nerf to duration

The major thing is right now someone can be CC'd far too often between sleep stun bind and slow. Not having any control of your character or gap closers for when you do is frustrating and stupid.

In exhange for making pvp faster limited the immune period from 1 minute to 30 seconds.


Right now pvp is a joke this would make it a lot better

As a healer I naturally have mixed feelings about being interrupted simply by being hit, but at the same time, I really don't want the game to be a situation where healers can heal all day and the game never ends until someone goes OOM. If I were to be able to cast even a bit more than I currently do, I'm not sure games would end very quickly. WHM have giant heals, and SCH have bubbles which allow them to cast even more, anyways. The only thing that completely and utterly destroys me is miasma and storm's eye stacking, and I think it'd be silly to make it feel like you have to have these things on your team or it's magical healing arena instead of death match (especially if they nerfed the two stacking). I like that the current system forces me to think on the best time to use equanimity and surecast/swiftcast, as well as utilizing walls/pillars to quickly get casts off.

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I love how people don't read the full post and think.

It really does all balance out.

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Sure, you can balance everything out by sucking the life out of most game mechanics, but is that really a good idea? No, it isn't. Besides that, we did read the full post. Most of your ideas are whacked. Making all CC effects the same duration regardless of the actual effect is stupid. Stuns are more potent than sleep, to make them last the same duration would be folly. Not all CC effects are created equal, nor should be their durations equal.

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Right now pvp is a joke this would make it a lot better

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Where'd you get your degree in game balance?

I never said make all durations equal I said set the maximum duration at 8s or if you like keeping the 2.5 base gcd I can't think of another game this slow can you if so name it? Then a 20s maximum. With reductions to 4s or 10s if you keep the gcd at base 2.5 and finally to 2s or 5s if you keep the base at 2.5s gcd

The important point was that all of the CC type effects are on the same diminishing returns.

For example someone casts sleep on you for 8 seconds at the end of that time the next CC effect on you is 1/2 effect so then stun you get at 1s now lasts for 3 seconds.

If you don't like speeding up the game turns my proposal is for the first sleep lasts to 20 seconds and then the next CC effect has 1/2 effect the next cc effect after this has 1/4 effect and after that you are immune.



Also not one person has commented on the regular skills not interupting casting.
To me this is a huge design flaw and makes it impossible to have any other play style except run in circles

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Originally Posted by keltareen

I love how people don't read the full post and think. Very few attacks would interupt casting

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I did read the full post and as I asked, have you played blm in pvp? I already have my surecast and equanimity which I can sprint and 'attempt' to use (with usually no less than 3 opposing players on my butt) so I do already have a little mitigation for ‘regular attacks’. The silences and stuns are my issue so take away my sprint and you have given me a quick death as my surecast and equanimity are now useless and I have no sprint.

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There would be low incentive to run around and not fight

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Maneuvering, movement and using los- all of these are an important strategic part of any good pvp match. Your rationale appears to be to stand face to face to fight and how convenient this would be for you being melee.

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Originally Posted by keltareen

I love how people don't read the full post and think.

Right now pvp is a joke this would make it a lot better

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Your changes just turn this pvp into WoW pvp. No thanks.

yeah you are right I did play wow before and I enjoyed the pvp cause its balanced. Its clear people here the few that do pvp who aren't bots enjoy the imbalances and enjoy queueing up as a sch and their 2 smn friends to roflpwn noobs shrug I give up.

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Originally Posted by keltareen

yeah you are right I did play wow before and I enjoyed the pvp cause its balanced.

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