Should the group of the next BIG "World's First" get incorporated into the lore?

I think it would be a pretty cool idea to reward the group of the next big "World's First" (if we ever get content that's as hard as Vanilla Turn 5) into the lore of some later content. I'm not saying make the Tank the main character of FFXVI, but maybe just a little shout out, similar to how in the main story there was the group that downed Titan years ago.

No esp the tank just getting a shout out. You would have non final fantasy names in the game then like...mister giggles, or Shepard commander, or something like strife cloud. It's sounds like a good idea but the application I don't think would work.

We should give a worlds first to the person that, instead of rushing to endgame, stops and runs thru level 20 instances teaching newbies the basics of MMOs and pointers for how to play each class.

There are fewer of these people than endgame progressioners, they deserve more praise.

The western community is bad enough without the game itself encouraging e-fame.

Odin already takes the form of the last person who actually landed the killing blow, it also displays his PC name underneath Odin's. I think stuff like that is cool, but I don't like the idea of having them incorporated into the lore.

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Originally Posted by Pinworms

No esp the tank just getting a shout out. You would have non final fantasy names in the game then like...mister giggles, or Shepard commander, or something like strife cloud. It's sounds like a good idea but the application I don't think would work.

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I assumed it'd be done by an FC, one that probably had a more appropriate name. And you misunderstood my "tank getting a shoutout" point, I was just saying it wouldn't be anything big (using the hyperbole of the tank becoming the main character of final fantasy 16).

Seems more of a whoever has the least latency wins. Incorporate THAT into lore Sqenix. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Skyhound

Odin already takes the form of the last person who actually landed the killing blow, it also displays his PC name underneath Odin's. I think stuff like that is cool, but I don't like the idea of having them incorporated into the lore.

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Really?

I've never actually seen Odin, just a blob of sparkles or nothing at all. Sounds neat.

I'll put it bluntly: Hell no.

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Originally Posted by Xieveral

Really?

I've never actually seen Odin, just a blob of sparkles or nothing at all. Sounds neat.

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Yup. Though to be specific, he looks normal up until he is about to attack. His helmet disappears and his face becomes that of who killed him last. Though I'll be honest, it does backfire. I heard he was a Lalafell named Butt Plug on one server. xDDD

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Originally Posted by Jubez187

I think it would be a pretty cool idea to reward the group of the next big "World's First" (if we ever get content that's as hard as Vanilla Turn 5) into the lore of some later content. I'm not saying make the Tank the main character of FFXVI, but maybe just a little shout out, similar to how in the main story there was the group that downed Titan years ago.

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You do realize that 'group' wasn't even a player group at all - Titan wasn't even available in 1.0 as it had been dummied out, so players never got to fight him. The whole 'Company of Heroes' thing in ARR's main storyline was simply a means of explaining why players never fought him in 1.0. It wasn't a shout out to whoever killed him first.

Yes, they should.

When the "World First" group to wipe to Coil Turn 6 comes in, SE should incorporate their failure into the lore. "Such and Such Company of Wherever fought valiantly and failed, do you think you have what it takes to best this trial?" the NPCs will ask.

No thanks. There are all ready WAY to many people who feel they are better than others simply because they have a few more pixels. What are the odds that the players that have progressed the furthest, at this point, are truly the best of the best? I would say those odds are very small.

I never want to see another players name in any FF lore just because they beat or did something first. BUT in FFXI BCNMs would keep track of who beat them the fastest (party leader name only). Maybe the could do something similar.

If you die in game your character should be deleted.

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Originally Posted by Gwynn

If you die in game your character should be deleted.

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D2 Hardcore player?

'World Firsts' don't matter, it's not an even playing field for numerous reasons, doing something in the 100th group is just as worthy of admiration, or not, as the first.

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Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan

D2 Hardcore player?

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Blizzard didn't invent 'iron man' mode as earlier games called it.

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Originally Posted by KraggyKor

'World Firsts' don't matter, it's not an even playing field for numerous reasons, doing something in the 100th group is just as worthy of admiration, or not, as the first.

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I disagree with the op; people should not be incorporated into FF lore. However, I disagree more with Kraggy's last comment. Being the world first is way more worthy of admiration than the 100th. The first is the one who comes up with / perfects the strategy and spends endless days/hours to do it. While the 100th group simply watches a video with his group, spends 2-3 hours practicing using the already incorporated strategy and winning.

The ones who came up with that strategy and spent weeks perfecting it (ala BG with pre-nerf Twin kill) deserve more admiration than any group who beats it now after watching videos and copying exactly what they did.

Damn I didn't think this idea would get shot down so fast. Just thought it'd be cool to get people more incorporated into the world/lore/the game instead of using it as a dungeon hub. *shrugs* whatever I guess the game came out last gen and it'll stay in last gen.

I think people are taking my idea a little too seriously. All I'm saying is maybe something like, in the description of turn 6 coil, it saying "now that BG has slain twintania, a new foe arises." That's it, just a little recognition.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

You do realize that 'group' wasn't even a player group at all - Titan wasn't even available in 1.0 as it had been dummied out, so players never got to fight him. The whole 'Company of Heroes' thing in ARR's main storyline was simply a means of explaining why players never fought him in 1.0. It wasn't a shout out to whoever killed him first.

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I know it was an NPC group, I was comparing the level of shoutout to that of the NPC group that killed Titan.

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Originally Posted by Noahlimits

I disagree with the op; people should not be incorporated into FF lore. However, I disagree more with Kraggy's last comment. Being the world first is way more worthy of admiration than the 100th. The first is the one who comes up with / perfects the strategy and spends endless days/hours to do it. While the 100th group simply watches a video with his group, spends 2-3 hours practicing using the already incorporated strategy and winning.

The ones who came up with that strategy and spent weeks perfecting it (ala BG with pre-nerf Twin kill) deserve more admiration than any group who beats it now after watching videos and copying exactly what they did.

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Or they just simply have more time during the week to actually do that. The only difficulty is people learning to do it, which takes time, which not everyone has to dedicate during the week. I mean, kudos for doing it, but it's not that fantastical.

No. The 'world-first' groups should not get shout-outs in the lore, or mentions of their name. In these kinds of games, -we- are supposed to be the heroes that get these things done in our own stories.

At best, it should only be "a group of adventurers" should defeat things in lore, that way it can be anyone.. if you did it in your play through so far, then you were that adventurer.. if you haven't done it, then it's only mentioned that 'someone' got it done.

Achievements, a unique trophy to go inside your FC house.. those are fine, but the last thing any MMO needs is the company itself holding a particular group above others.

simple answer : No thank you.

I'd feel bad if I ever got a world first in this case.

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