Subject tagged for dev attention.
The current market search functionality is great, and with improved stability/recovery methods, there is no need for a "traditional" AH.
My only concern/suggestion for this thread is however, that there be some way to determine if an item is HQ from the list. When common items are cleared out at rock bottom prices, it's easy for HQ mats to be completely bumped off the list.
Even if they remain on the list, it more often then not, looks like someone just out to price gouge.
Idealy a filter to HQ level after sellecting the specific item would be helpfull. If this is not possible, atleast a tag on the listing showing it's HQ rank.
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03-09-2011, 04:01 AMPurplenv[dev1016] [dev1019] [dev1018] - Market search with HQ designation/filter plz
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03-09-2011, 04:05 AMviion
This really annoys me too because sometimes I will want HQ Moraine or <some other item> and I have to search about 15 retainers in 10 different wards to finally find a +3.
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03-09-2011, 04:09 AMPicoman
Yes.
It just looks like you are greedy by selling say: "Oak Log" for 9k when the going rate is say 6k, but really its a +3. -
03-09-2011, 04:10 AMPrestige
I hate to derail and ask, but what are these tags you are putting in your thread title? Are they specific devs numbers or something? What is it?
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03-09-2011, 04:13 AMLuhy
It's probably because the items don't register as different items, server-side. +3 Oak Log, Oak Log and +1/+2 Oak Log are all the same item. They would have to go down the list one by one. It's necessary to differentiate +3 and NQ though, I agree. Most of the time, I have no interest in NQ materials at all, so I waste a lot of time checking if they're +3 or not. I just don't know if it's a priority right now for the amount of work that might be involved.
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03-09-2011, 04:28 AMBalbanes
I agree. I would love for the MW search to show if an item is +1,2,3.
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03-09-2011, 04:35 AMSeirra_Lanzceit for discussing with the In Development thread here > http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/forums/138Quote:
Originally Posted by Prestige
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03-09-2011, 05:43 AMPurplenvOak Log = 10008011Quote:
Originally Posted by Luhy
Oak Log +1= 10008011.1
Oak Log +2= 10008011.2
Oak Log +3= 10008011.3
They moreso, had to actively decide to lump all of those numbers together, or essentially ignore the decimal character, so that all of the quality logs are displayed under the one listing.
I'm guessing they wanted to avoid another step to get to the actual searched items.
My suggestion, so that it doesn't cause an additional step for everyone, only those who are looking for HQ's specifically, that the search defaults to ALL grades, with a drop down menu on the side of the listing to filter to specific qualities.
Shouldn't be to difficult, and they likely didn't figure it was needed, but when the main motivation currently for crafting, is to make HQ items, then listing/selling/buying with an HQ filter, is highly beneficial. -
03-09-2011, 06:35 AMJamerValeloria
I feel all the reasons discussed and listed about are all great arguments for an Auction House system. I really feel this would be very beneficial to balance the community/server economy and relieve some of the head aches of finding items/gear/weapons. As stated there is no real sort feature for NQ/HQ items, a list of the last items sold to figure out if you are getting ripped off, and the means to make some money with out a market full of undercutting of the lowest price. Also, if there is a concern about Auction House lag then the wards could be keep in place, the Auction House system could still be implimentted within the Market Ward system.
How you ask? Well, what would you say if the DOW's gear/weapon/etc were sorted by an Auction that is located in the Battle Den? How about the Tradecrafter Den holding an Auction House for DOH gear/tools/etc? Or an Auction House for all food Item raw/prepared in the Grocers Ward? How about all of the crating materials located in a Crafters Warehouse? With this type of combined system the Auction House would sort the item and balance the economy, while the Dens/Wards will sorted the class/type of items being sold! I think this could also cut down on the number of market wards/dens listed as some itme/gear/etc over lap in the current system. This could help too when the class specific gear/weapon/items/etc are released in a patch. I think this could be a nice combination of a both systems, a (Market Wards) system that has flaws but is an interesting concept with a (Auction House) system that is tested and true.
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03-09-2011, 06:42 AMJudge_Xero
This idea is from a previous thread I read, but I feel it fits in nicely here. If you have a HQ item for sale list it as such, till this all gets sorted out. Moko Grass - 100gil, Moko Grass +2 - 152, Moko Grass +3 203. So list your price, and then add the HQ value gil at the end. As long as everyone follows this, it makes things simple.
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03-09-2011, 11:31 PMPurplenv
Hmm, I'll have to try this with my HQ listings, but unless it's common knowledge, it will be rare as a buyer to see this on listings, I would think.
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03-10-2011, 03:30 AMNaylia
Please add the HQ designations to Item Search!
I do follow the 1,2,3 pricing approach myself. But I've never seen anyone else use it.
Wand => 20,000
Wand +1 => 80,001
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03-10-2011, 05:09 AMAmyRae
I think it would be better to list HQ items separate from their NQ counterparts (even though that might bloat the item listings). The problem is that the price list is limited to the 20 lowest prices, so if there are a lot of NQ stacks for sale, the HQ items won't even make the list at all.
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03-10-2011, 10:32 PMPurplenv
Actually found somone listing a +1 tool, with the first number designating it as +1. This made me happy, untill I noticed it was 250k cheaper then the same tool hq that I purchased just the day before... /cry
I like the idea that this pricing theory is getting noticed.