Finally saw the inside of a house.. completely over it....

So I went to see one of the three houses in Uldah to see what it's like and the outsides are nice and all, but the inside is INSTANCED?! So basically you can't see if someone is coming over and hanging outside.

So its a glorified mog room with the ability to decorate the outside.

Not so worried about it anymore.

Don;t even want one and especially not for those stupid prices. Should be free for an instanced house. At least in AION, Ultima and other games you actually can walk in and out of the house and it adds a sense of really being in a neighborhood. This way you will never know who's around or when a neighbor gets home.

*Yawn*

Now to peacefully enjoy the other parts of the game without this distraction.

Thank you SE for making it so easy to dismiss housing!

So you want to see out your window
and you think this game should be more like AION?
Ok.

I definitely miss the days of SWG where you had entire player-run cities with completely uninstanced housing.

But alas, instancing is all the rage in the MMO world right now, so I'm not surprised at all to know that the insides of the houses are instanced. I would have actually been rather shocked if they weren't.

Why do I have an instantly low opinion of anyone who bothers to type *yawn* to try to dismiss something?

It would have been nice to see non-instanced housing but I think it makes sense why they might not have implemented it. Were AION houses very complex? Certainly we know why Ultima Online could handle non-instanced houses.

Guess you are right but tis just a waste.

But this also means they can easily create player housing thru the Inn rooms in the cities like mog houses. A housing exterior is pointless really.

Sorry just not what I envisioned when they first ran it, don't recall them ever saying it was instanced so i guess I assumed it would not be.

Especially since they kept referencing to the housing in Ultima.

Aion was an instanced area with open homes fully capable of being decorated inside and out.

They also offered and decoratable studio/apartment for cheap until u amassed your fortune.

Sorry for yawning it just means it bores me. :-)

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Originally Posted by Ifervan

Especially since they kept referencing to the housing in Ultima.

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Well I can see where you'd be disappointed if they were saying that. I agree non-instanced stuff is a lot cooler but who knows if they were afraid of some technical limitations later on? The instanced housing in EQ2 didn't bother me and most of the better houses did cost money if I remember right.

Oh well easy to move on until player housing, hope they just do apartments, waste of server space to have an instance within and instance just for some outside land decor.

I agree id like to look in the house and go inside and see whats up im saving for my private house and working for the fc house. prices are pretty outlandish so save those gils

http://www.moviefleece.com/wp-conten...1080p-1939.jpg
I demand personal housing...

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Originally Posted by Worm

Well I can see where you'd be disappointed if they were saying that. I agree non-instanced stuff is a lot cooler but who knows if they were afraid of some technical limitations later on? The instanced housing in EQ2 didn't bother me and most of the better houses did cost money if I remember right.

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Though the housing in EQ2 was instanced, you could have other people come to your house (especially in regards to the market boards/ broker). You can even grant special permission to friends you trust to rearrange your furniture.

Honestly, I would have been surprised if the FC housing wasn't instanced. I figure having the housing instanced would be less strain on the [already strained] servers.

I thought the purpose of having a limit of 30 plots per zone was so that the housing would not be instanced? It doesn't bother me either way, but it makes no sense to me to have a limitation on the instance for the outside, and then a separate one for the inside.

Aye... If the interiors are going to be instanced in the current setup, I'd have preferred they just do away with the neighborhoods and give personal instances (with no separate interior instance).
Little point to the neighborhoods themselves with the way it is currently set up. :-/

Instances insides definitely makes it much less cool.

Shame.

What did you expect? its SE. Instance everything. I was over it when I saw how poop it was compared to Aion/Wildstar/<some other game that naturally has a better developed housing system>. Fortunately its cosmetic so it doesn't affect the game for me one bit!

Almost everything is instanced these days. I don't care for the trend either.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ry-(10-30-2013)

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Q: Will we be able to see the sunlight coming through the windows and also be able to view the scenery from within a house?

A: We've made adjustments for the amount of light that enters though the windows, but you will not be able to see the scenery outside. I understand there have been requests for this, but there are a lot of other houses outside and a lot of people passing by, so if we were to make this possible it would cause an increase in the limitations for the objects that can be placed in your houses. We decided to prioritize allowing you to place as many things in your house as possible.

tl;dr: Read Live Letters.

Wait.. You didn't know this already?

<.<; Have you not seen any Live Letters about housing? If you had you'd have realized this months ago.

the fact that sh*t is announced doesn't make it smell better.

I figured the only reason in the world we were getting housing the way we were was because it was going to be this grand non instanced thing. To find out housing is instanced one has to sit and ponder for some time about why we couldn't have just got housing for free without the drama of plots and the obvious separation of low-middle-high class players, and then have the money sink be in the upgrading of your house to be bigger over time.

My FC bought a small house a few days back. It's still the only plot in that district. After checking out the inside, I kind of felt bad for the FC for forking up that kind of gil. It is the exact same size as any inn room, and there is only one room, so it is in fact, just an empty inn room with no features.

It took all of 2 min to realize I will never care to step inside it again.

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Originally Posted by Bluevann

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This says nothing that the interiors are instanced. Says you can't look outside due to amount of objects. And if the zones are already instanced I don't understand what type of load they are worried about, and we already have object limitations in houses and land anyway.

It's just a bullshit excuse for not wanting to pay for memory; they are a Corporation...for profit so i get it. I think they went cheap with this feature, it's the only real excuse seeing that games far older than this one can accomplish large areas completely open for housing.

Just don't like half truths.

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Originally Posted by kuikui

My FC bought a small house a few days back. It's still the only plot in that district. After checking out the inside, I kind of felt bad for the FC for forking up that kind of gil. It is the exact same size as any inn room, and there is only one room, so it is in fact, just an empty inn room with no features.

It took all of 2 min to realize I will never care to step inside it again.

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so sorry for your cheapest house, filthy pleasant

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Originally Posted by Ifervan

Oh well easy to move on until player housing, hope they just do apartments, waste of server space to have an instance within and instance just for some outside land decor.

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You would need a garden to do gardening and raising chocobos.

What XI gives you for free, XIV gives you for the entire savings of 10 players. What a joke lol.

Actually, they said when discussing housing that the house was instanced looong before housing was even available...o.O I don't see why you're surprised.

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Originally Posted by TohruHonda

What XI gives you for free, XIV gives you for the entire savings of 10 players. What a joke lol.

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There were LS moghouses in XI?

You know Se and it's "technical limitations" blow my mind. How can a p2p have hardware issues but a f2p not have any at all? Like seriously I feel like
Se is broke or cheap one of the two. Because by far they have the Worst excuse on hard ware limitations.

A lot of F2P's aren't also readily available on console though...

I'd say it's more console limitations than it is SE's.

Harvest Moon has a better housing system! It also has farms and I can feed my beloved animals.

I don't get the housing in memo thing unless its something meaningful...which I findis rare. I'll just play the sims when I want good housing.