Average item Lv Formula?

Anyone knows the item Level formula? Not even my SMN or SCH items Avg item level match my current gear. The item level of my characters are like 2 below of what they should be. So it seems is not a simple as adding all items level and dividing them for the number of slots.

Not sure. On my warrior it matches, but instead of rounding up it just drops the decimal. So I have 81.67 but it shows as 81. I don't know what would account for a difference of 2.

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Originally Posted by Ronyx

Anyone knows the item Level formula? Not even my SMN or SCH items Avg item level match my current gear. The item level of my characters are like 2 below of what they should be. So it seems is not a simple as adding all items level and dividing them for the number of slots.

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Are you using Darklight Cowls? You have to count those as two slots. And as two ilvl 70 items.

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Originally Posted by Ronyx

Anyone knows the item Level formula? Not even my SMN or SCH items Avg item level match my current gear. The item level of my characters are like 2 below of what they should be. So it seems is not a simple as adding all items level and dividing them for the number of slots.

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shield not counted in ilvl btw

u may have shield equipped

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Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon

shield not counted in ilvl btw

u may have shield equipped

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Arcanist and its Jobs cannot use shields.

It seems that accessories have less weight than main body gear.

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Originally Posted by Ri_ri

It seems that accessories have less weight than main body gear.

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No. It all adds up if you do the math right.

Im a summoner. No Shields and Im using a Crimson Circlet, soo no Cowl. Lets see 12 Slots Total.
Crimson Lv80
Darklight Tome 55
Vanya Robe 70
Darklights x 7
Austere tights 60
Demagogue Ring 60
Total 815 / 12 = 67.9
Game says item Avg Lv 66

Scholar
Darklight x 10 (counting Cowl as x2)
Ifrit Book 60
Strate Ring 60
Total = 820 / 12 = 68.3
Game says item Avg Lv 67

It's not total of all equipment / number of equipment, rounded up?

Because that's what it seems to be.

Works for me. I get 80.8333etc which rounds up into the 81 it shows for me.

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Originally Posted by Madoka

Works for me. I get 80.8333etc which rounds up into the 81 it shows for me.

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Oh wow and yours got round up? WHY!? 67.9 should be 68 but it seems not cuz the game gives me a 66. Wonder why some calculation are soo wrong.

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Originally Posted by Ronyx

Oh wow and yours got round up? WHY!? 67.9 should be 68 but it seems not cuz the game gives me a 66. Wonder why some calculation are soo wrong.

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Your weapons are so bad, the rest of your gear can't make up for the loss in power!!!

Idk why the formula is off for you, works fine for me as well, on all my jobs.

Edit: Maybe weapons/armors are rounded to fives, and Ifrit is really a lv 56 item --conspiracy theory!

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Originally Posted by Ronyx

Oh wow and yours got round up? WHY!? 67.9 should be 68 but it seems not cuz the game gives me a 66. Wonder why some calculation are soo wrong.

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Maybe whoever doing the calulation for your gear is a Lalafell banker.

I don't have screen shots now because I am on notebook.

Full DL (item level 70 on all slots) + regular relic (item level 80 weapon) = average item level 71.
With full DL + Garuda Van + Ultima ring (item level 80 accessory) = average item level 70.

In total, both setups have the same numbers, but the one with the relic gets a higher average item level, so I think slots do have different weight. I'll test this better later.

Edit: no I won't. I'm horrible at math and I hate this average item level thing

Apperantly, your body gear have a higher standing then your acessory gear.

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Originally Posted by Ri_ri

I don't have screen shots now because I am on notebook.

Full DL (item level 70 on all slots) + regular relic (item level 80 weapon) = average item level 71.
With full DL + Garuda Van + Ultima ring (item level 80 accessory) = average item level 70.

In total, both setups have the same numbers, but the one with the relic gets a higher average item level, so I think slots do have different weight. I'll test this better later.

Edit: no I won't. I'm horrible at math and I hate this average item level thing

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Hmm is still interesting what you say here. Because Garuda is 70 and so its DL. So at the very least should be Item Lv 70 avg and having a Lv80 ring should rise it above 70 obviously but the game didnt and it stayed at 70. So that seems the case. Some slots have more weight than others. I will buy DL pants today and see how much it change.

I wondered this myself. I switched my ilvl 55 shield and ilvl 70 sword for two ilvl 80s earlier and went up just one level. Surely that isn't right?

I'm sure different items have different weights. Switching from i70 to i90 body usually gives me 2 average ilvls. Switching rings from an i49 to i90 only gave 3 to my average though

Considering that weapon, body and legs give the largest contributions to your overall stats it would make sense that these three are weighted slightly higher than the rest.

2 handed weapons count as 2 slots and 2x the level, and level rounds down.

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Originally Posted by Ronyx

Im a summoner. No Shields and Im using a Crimson Circlet, soo no Cowl. Lets see 12 Slots Total.
Crimson Lv80
Darklight Tome 55 (110)
Vanya Robe 70
Darklights x 7
Austere tights 60
Demagogue Ring 60
Total 815 (870) / 12 (13) = 67.9 (66.15)
Game says item Avg Lv 66

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2 Handed weapons count as 2 slots because 1 handed weapons come with shields equippable.

E.g. Paladin gets sword and shield
BLM: with 1 handed can wear a shield as well.
WHM: with 1 handed can wear a shield

So when you have a 2 handed it counts as 2 slots to counter pld,blm,whm's posisbilities of having a weapon and a shield.

Consider that two handed weapons count as 2 items in count.

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Originally Posted by Crimson-Falcon

shield not counted in ilvl btw

u may have shield equipped

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Wrong.

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Originally Posted by Ri_ri

It seems that accessories have less weight than main body gear.

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Wrong.

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Originally Posted by HumsterMKX

Apperantly, your body gear have a higher standing then your acessory gear.

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Wrong

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Originally Posted by Madoka

I'm sure different items have different weights. Switching from i70 to i90 body usually gives me 2 average ilvls. Switching rings from an i49 to i90 only gave 3 to my average though

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Nope they do not.

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Originally Posted by StouterTaru

2 handed weapons count as 2 slots and 2x the level, and level rounds down.

Im a summoner. No Shields and Im using a Crimson Circlet, soo no Cowl. Lets see 12 Slots Total.
Crimson Lv80
Darklight Tome 55 (110)
Vanya Robe 70
Darklights x 7
Austere tights 60
Demagogue Ring 60
Total 815 (870) / 12 (13) = 67.9 (66.15)
Game says item Avg Lv 66

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Oh look: someone who can do basic math.

For fishers, fishing rods are calculated as one handed.. but fishers don't have any offhand tool even with total ilvl still divided by 13...
Not sure if this is just a bug on SE's side, or if fishers will get an offhand tool eventually...

With the bug being that fishing rods are counted as one handed, but are supposed to be counted as two handed...

I don't know if it counts towards the average item level, but don't forget your Job crystal also strangely has an item level too (it's a default ilevel of 30). Why SE has set an item level on the Job crystal I have no idea - whether it's just a requirement of how they've coded the whole equipment screen that has given an item level to every piece of equipment, and so Job crystals require one as well simply to allow the whole system to work or not I have no idea.

I presume it wouldn't be counted towards average item level though, as we would have had people surely complaining about it by now if it did.

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

I don't know if it counts towards the average item level, but don't forget your Job crystal also strangely has an item level too (it's a default ilevel of 30). Why SE has set an item level on the Job crystal I have no idea - whether it's just a requirement of how they've coded the whole equipment screen that has given an item level to every piece of equipment, and so Job crystals require one as well simply to allow the whole system to work or not I have no idea.

I presume it wouldn't be counted towards average item level though, as we would have had people surely complaining about it by now if it did.

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There are people out there with i90 average. If job crystal counted, the average would be lower.

My DRG is i90...but that's an easy one to figure out, since everything slotted is i90...

WHM - All i90, except the head and body (i80)...average ilv of 88 (13 is 88.46; 12 is 88.33)

WAR is i90 Axe, Hands, Legs, Feet, Ring, Bracelets, Earrings. i80 Neck, Head, Body and Ring. i70 Belt. For 12, i85 exact. For 13, 85.38. Either way, i85.

BLM has 3 i90 (Head, Ring and Staff), 3 i80 (Body, Gloves and Neck), rest i70 (Ring, Bracelets, Earrings, Feet, Legs, Belt). 12 - 77.5. 13 - 78.46. i78


Geeze, was hoping for one that there would be a difference between 12 and 13 for more proof for one or the other :\

I'm just amazed this thread got three pages....