Revised Cure III Mechanic Idea!

I had this idea for a new mechanic to Cure III. I know it was just revised and all but this isn't so much a fix as it is how the spell works. Firstly; keep it all the same ie. cost, radius, range and cast time. However, instead of making it a targeting heal make it into a "true" radial heal. This idea came to me after doing a quest where you have to throw bombs on specified locations. After clicking the item you would get the circular radial display on the ground that would also display the range. What if you incorporated that into the spell?

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Stage 1: Player clicks Cure III; Stage 2: the cast time begins to count down Stage 3: the player just clicks on the target location where they want the radial heal to take affect! The cast time holds until they click the spot to heal. Furthermore, it can be canceled out just like any other spell. By doing this we would be able to heal people without directly targeting them. This would prevent us from relying completely on the stacking tactic and give this spell more variety as well a new mechanic to play around with. The best part is since it's going to be the same exact spell it won't change anything balance wise either.

These types of spells can work, but as WoW has shown with the Lightwell spell (big obvious clickable animation) nobody ends up clicking it and it quickly becomes useless.

It wouldn't be a click-able well or a sacred ground; it would be the same spell with the same effects but you wouldn't have to single target and instead just cast it in the position that you want. It's merely a way to take out the targeting function of the spell and replace it with a free placement mechanic. Not so much an area where they can run into to recieve healing. I need to learn to word my ideas better so people don't get confused :( ...

I really like how cure 3 works now
so sry but i am fully against your idea and would be very sad ;p if it came like that

but it is a really nice idea and i like to see how the most healers here are really thinking about the skills
so maybe that idea is nothing for me, but other people would enjoy it

Thanks for the feedback ^-^! It was just a thought on a different kind of mechanic, but I can see why we should just stick to the current Cure III style.

10 yard cure 3 would be nice. So it could reach melee that are doing positional attacks to the side of the boss...

Cure 3 punishes melee a bit atm. Ranged can just stay behind the boss all the fight. Melee have to move from the left/right side of the boss into the group. So they lose dps or miss healing. The range is still way to short to heal both tank and melee .

A friendly green AoE marker to give people a warning that we are casting Cure 3 would be good.

10y would be nice. I agree. My idea was just a way of taking away the targeting aspect of the spell and allowing us to pick where we want the center of the radius to be rather than having the target be the radius. More than once I have used Cure III and people were in the right position, but move right before my timer goes off... it gets annoying sometimes. A simple 10y would be fair and /welcome if nothing else.

that would be interesting, actually. Would give it a different niche as well, especially with your idea of casting first then moving the circle. it has pros and cons. Would be able to cast it and have it hit right as damage hits, but if you moved, you'd lose your cast time and waste 3 seconds.

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Originally Posted by Euphe

It wouldn't be a click-able well or a sacred ground; it would be the same spell with the same effects but you wouldn't have to single target and instead just cast it in the position that you want. It's merely a way to take out the targeting function of the spell and replace it with a free placement mechanic. Not so much an area where they can run into to recieve healing. I need to learn to word my ideas better so people don't get confused :( ...

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Oh, I was confused by your first post I guess then. Yea I would much prefer a place-able AoE. Right now when we have to AoE cure we just move ourself into position. I find it a little clunky to select someone when you want AoE heals, and you don't know if they'll move around and make the spell go out of range. I think its a good idea. That being said, the slight range increase on Cure III has made it actually pretty useful - especially in Titan extreme.

Even adding in a radius marker around the selected target would make it better at this point. Maybe by clicking and holding the spell's hotkey could make a radial display appear around the target? Upon release it just casts the spell like usual. I would love to have a place-able AOE heal personally however... As it stands the 6y radius did make a difference but I think creativity-wise they could take it further and add in a feel of "unique-ness" to Cure III.

Letting you target the spell after the cast finishes instead of as you start it seems a bit strong; it turns it into an instant cast with charge up time, if you get what I'm saying. That's bad because A) it probably makes it a little TOO easy to heal, and B) it would likely be easy to game the server latency on spells like Twintania's fireballs, for instance. Start casting the spell 5 seconds before she fireballs, wait for her cast to be just about to finish, then cast. Due to latency the spell will resolve immediately AFTER the fireball and bam, everyone's topped up. Doesn't seem like a big deal there, but it's big if that same fireball effect also applied some sort of debuff that affected heals, the spell will top everyone up before the debuff is applied. It's too easy to abuse.

I'd be amenable to a Cure 3 spell that targeted the ground instead of a player, but left the selection of the ground at the beginning of the cast instead of holding it till the end and added a small ground effect. I say small because too many effects make the game too cluttered for those with good computers, and unplayable for those with bad computers.

Wow, I was about to make a thread with the nearly-exact same suggestion, luckily I did a search before I actually posted it.

My written-but-not-yet-posted thread:

[Sugggestion Summary]
Please, make Cure III GTAoE with blue circle indicator during cast time, if no target is selected by WHM.
If a target is selected, behave as it currently does.

GTAoE = Ground Target AoE. Just like Shadow Flare or Freeze, you get a shiny circle, you point at a place and cast away.

*snip* (because this thread already covered most of the reasoning)

Thanks and bump!

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Originally Posted by Menae

That's bad because A) it probably makes it a little TOO easy to heal, and B) it would likely be easy to game the server latency on spells like Twintania's fireballs, for instance.

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I see what you are saying and agree. I didn't consider this. Maybe have it placed then casted? That would put additional placement time on WHMs however... Hmmm. Any ideas on a way around this?