Mob level distribution is pure insanity

As much as I'd love to rant and hurl my frustrations at SE right now. I am just going to be constructive and post this.

Please (and rather quickly) re-evaluate the insanity that is your mob distribution. The level 20 leatherworking quest has me running to Quarrymill in order to deliver the armor. If you're unaware of that that path looks like, let me paint you a picture.

Path 1: hoards of level 55+ monsters that 1 shot a level 27 Thaumaturge with buffs.
Path 2: hoards of level 55+ monsters that 1 shot a level 27 Thaumaturge with buffs.
Path 3: hoards of level 55+ monsters that 1 shot a level 27 Thaumaturge with buffs.

I am experimenting with path 4 right now. But I imagine it is more of the same insanity that the above pathways include.

Edit: Path 4 actually worked. Regardless, the amount of frustration this brought me was a little excessive. The mob distribution still needs to be evaluated heavily.


Fix this.

While you're at it. Review each of the quests in place to ensure this doesn't ever happen again.

Also, frontier hubs must be accessible in much the same manner. I'd hate to have my level 10 quest take me through level 60 mobs... :mad:

And redo the entire Black Shroud while you're at it.

I got to Quarrymill on a rank 20 botanist without running into 1 agro mob. Their class quest is there as well.

I have a feeling you went the wrong way to get there.

If I remember it correctly, I believe safest way is enter from southside. Please don't ask to dumb down the game some more. I would really like more mobs and faster respawn times to make sp grinding more feasible.

I do need to agree with the OP somewhat. The quarrymill isn't too bad, but the mob distribution does need work all around.

The south was the correct way. But regardless, how is someone who has never been there supposed to know that.

Trial and Error.

i believe the correct answer is called exploration. there is no death penalty so you should be doing as much exploration of the world as you can. you might actually be impressed with how massive the world seems at early levels if you don't get someone to just port you to all the nodes.

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Originally Posted by Corrderio

I do need to agree with the OP somewhat. The quarrymill isn't too bad, but the mob distribution does need work all around.

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I agree that there are some real issues with monster placement and progression structure.

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Originally Posted by Tibian

As much as I'd love to rant and hurl my frustrations at SE right now. I am just going to be constructive and post this.

Please (and rather quickly) re-evaluate the insanity that is your mob distribution. The level 20 leatherworking quest has me running to Quarrymill in order to deliver the armor. If you're unaware of that that path looks like, let me paint you a picture.

Path 1: hoards of level 55+ monsters that 1 shot a level 27 Thaumaturge with buffs.
Path 2: hoards of level 55+ monsters that 1 shot a level 27 Thaumaturge with buffs.
Path 3: hoards of level 55+ monsters that 1 shot a level 27 Thaumaturge with buffs.

I am experimenting with path 4 right now. But I imagine it is more of the same insanity that the above pathways include.

Edit: Path 4 actually worked. Regardless, the amount of frustration this brought me was a little excessive. The mob distribution still needs to be evaluated heavily.


Fix this.

While you're at it. Review each of the quests in place to ensure this doesn't ever happen again.

Also, frontier hubs must be accessible in much the same manner. I'd hate to have my level 10 quest take me through level 60 mobs... :mad:

And redo the entire Black Shroud while you're at it.

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Same is true for all the areas. It's insane that there's enemy variety in the game but it's all wasted by the leve design and the fact that you can go from 1 to 50 in the same zone with same mobs.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

i believe the correct answer is called exploration. there is no death penalty so you should be doing as much exploration of the world as you can. you might actually be impressed with how massive the world seems at early levels if you don't get someone to just port you to all the nodes.

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You cant explore when the mobs block your path because they are 25-35 levels higher than you and 1 shot you.

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Originally Posted by Tibian

The south was the correct way. But regardless, how is someone who has never been there supposed to know that.

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I dont want to be rude, but why do you play n mmoRPG?
You got 4 possibilities to reach the quarrymill (i guess you checked your map and figuered out 4 paths), all right. You take one path and see monster too high to pass. So you try the second path and so on until you find the right way.
Isnt this the kind of adventure why ppl play an RPG? Well i do and i dont want to play an easy mode RPG which is nothing but boring becuase it takes me by the hand whenever there is a little problem coming up. I want to solve such problems by myselfe and be proud when i did.

having 4 paths to the same place , but 3 are full of high lvls mobs.................yeah thats make sense :D

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Originally Posted by Meph

I dont want to be rude, but why do you play n mmoRPG?
You got 4 possibilities to reach the quarrymill (i guess you checked your map and figuered out 4 paths), all right. You take one path and see monster too high to pass. So you try the second path and so on until you find the right way.
Isnt this the kind of adventure why ppl play an RPG? Well i do and i dont want to play an easy mode RPG which is nothing but boring becuase it takes me by the hand whenever there is a little problem coming up. I want to solve such problems by myselfe and be proud when i did.

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I prefer Hello Kitty Island Adventure MMORPG.

Yes having an MMO not hold your hand the entire way is wonderful. But this is just stupid, its not exploring like you claim. Exploring is finding a little nook and cranny of some really cool area (like the very north east of Black Shroud) and finding some cool buildings and NPC's ect. Not traversing through an impossible linear path that is "EXPECTED" to be at your appropriate level. If they wanted you to use the SOUTH path, then why isn't it noted in the quest dialogue or said by an NPC? The fact of the matter is, they probably didn't think about the mob placement considering only one path is viable. Not to mention this issue (apparently based on other posts and testimonials) exists in every zone. Poor planning, just like we've seen in every other aspect of the game. Its just something SE has to fix.

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Originally Posted by Tibian

You cant explore when the mobs block your path because they are 25-35 levels higher than you and 1 shot you.

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Lucky for you, SE recently nerfed the difficulty of the game by showing you which mobs aggro before you even get near them. Go around them or find a different way. You must have known that a R20 quest would not require you to walk through a field of raptors and eft. Come on, now.

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Originally Posted by Seif

Same is true for all the areas. It's insane that there's enemy variety in the game but it's all wasted by the leve design and the fact that you can go from 1 to 50 in the same zone with same mobs.

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I don't understand this complaint no matter how many times I hear it.
Are you grinding on mobs? Did you spend your entire character life in Gridania?

If you didn't grind in 1 zone from 1-50 (which I'm sure no one has) why complain that you CAN?
You want a game with less options? The more places you can camp/level the better.

I just can't wrap my brain around this complaint.

I can get from 1-50 in a craft without ever leaving Uldah, should they nerf that, too?

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Originally Posted by Shai

You must have known that a R20 quest would not require you to walk through a field of raptors and eft. Come on, now.

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lol this a SE game dont get me started......

This is an example of people wanting to be hand held through the game....

There is a right path, without any agro. the first attempt did not work... so people go to the forums and QQ.

People are complaining because the game is badly designed that if you go to a higher level camp... there are higher level mobs when there is a path with no high level mobs in it.

Figure it out.... it is mmo and dispite the recent trend of Baby NA mmos.... a mmo and a rpg is suppose to be about figure things out. 10mins of checking out the surrounding would of lead anyone to the patch that would not get them killed. HEll SE already added an agro icon...can't use the excuse "I didn't know that would kill me" anymore either.....


As for the staying in 1 zone from 1-50... that is the players fault and they are gimping themselves. Leves are only 1 outlet of leveling in the game... and honestly outside Broken Water it is not even that good of sp/hr compared to going out and killing mobs in a party. This is an example of Ignorant playbase. Some of the best sp in the game is in Black Shroud and Corethas

level 1 run from bastok to jueno can I have it? This game needs hard paths then what it has. Implement the need for sneak, invis, and deodorize.

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Originally Posted by Tibian

You cant explore when the mobs block your path because they are 25-35 levels higher than you and 1 shot you.

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that's kinda funny because by level 15 i had reached most of the camps and nodes in coerthas and mor dhona. those are filled with r50+ mobs so they are 35+ levels above me at the time. the difference is some have an enjoyment to say i made it to this spot by exploring and having to use timing and patience to reach somewhere. the running from the drakes in south coerthas to get into mor dhona was probably the most fun i have had in game and they could one shot me.

Tibian, the problem is you are going the wrong way there


most of these camps have 2-3 paths to them, and 1 is ALWAYS agro free

you obviously didnt take the southern path there(in this case thats the safe one)

if you try to get there from the main black shroud trail, you will run into a ton of agro(which is what it sounds like you did)

instead, go down to tranquil, then east, and up to the camp from there

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Originally Posted by Dyne

Trial and Error.

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Ya. its not like they've changed it about 17 times.

This is seriously one of those "they don't even know what they want," deals atm. One of the big complaints was how peaceful and easy it was to go from place to place. They need to add danger! more high rank mobs you need to be stealthy around! etc and so forth. This stuff was all over these very forums for months.

Then someone who can't handle watching which way a mob turns or a map wants them to dumb it down?

No sir. I want the same feeling of danger I had when traveling from Bastok to Jeuno for the first time. Yeah, you might die and have to HP and start over...but that's kind of the point. When you're a lowbie trying to stealth through, it's epic. It's something you remember fondly, although you probably shouted several choice words during the process.

This is an adventure game, and all those trial and tribulations make you who you are as a character. I can probably write several books that could easily rival Harry Potter based on my adventures in FFXI.