Will Minstrel give us eventual Darnus access?

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12-19-2013, 03:23 PM
Recaldy

Will Minstrel give us eventual Darnus access?

Seeing how easy it is to simply throw in boss fights...why not? I'm pretty sure they have it planned somewhere down the line.
12-19-2013, 03:28 PM
Sotek

I really hope so. Rivenroad was one of the more interesting battlefields in the game, and it would be nice to see Dalamud again. Gaius really didn't do the music justice either, even if he could only muster a vocal-less version.
12-19-2013, 03:30 PM
Crimen

I believe it was stated that Darnus was dead and was never coming back no matter what. But meh, who knows.
12-19-2013, 03:31 PM
Sotek

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Originally Posted by Crimen

I believe it was stated that Darnus was dead and was never coming back no matter what. But meh, who knows.

Ultima Weapon is dead too, The Wandering Minstrel can let us relive such battles because he is effectively just telling a ballad recounting the battle. Darnus wouldn't be brought back, we'd just be redoing the battle because fun.
12-19-2013, 03:33 PM
Krystalynn

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Originally Posted by Crimen

I believe it was stated that Darnus was dead and was never coming back no matter what. But meh, who knows.

Um, the whole concept of the Minstrel is that he's singing about a battle in the past. It's a weird paradox, but the battle with Ultima Weapon we have now isn't actually taking place in the present, but is a representation of what the Minstrel thought happened in the original story mode battle. It's a bombastic retelling of history, brought to life in the present through song and we are a part of it. Thus any battle in FFXIVs past could theoretically be revived this way.
12-19-2013, 03:35 PM
Crimen

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Originally Posted by Sotek

Ultima Weapon is dead too, The Wandering Minstrel can let us relive such battles because he is effectively just telling a ballad recounting the battle. Darnus wouldn't be brought back, we'd just be redoing the battle because fun.

Fair enough!
12-19-2013, 03:44 PM
MasamuneBranford

Would kind of contradict the "Once in a lifetime" event they advertised. I think sometimes certain things are better off as memories. Makes them more "memorable" after the game is done and gone.
12-19-2013, 03:48 PM
Gwaiyn

i actually think that this would be a neat idea, sure darnus is dead, but there's nothing stopping the minstrel from singing about it, like he does with ultima weapon apperently

the once in a life time event would probably just be fighting him in 1.0, but it since we're fighting him in 2.0 with a revamped combat system, nael's fight would probably be completely different compared to how it was before
12-20-2013, 01:54 AM
Johnist

how about just have the Minstrel sing the Ballad of the Darklight Raiders and have us take on the Chimera that wiped them all out?
12-20-2013, 02:18 AM
EdwinLi

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Originally Posted by Johnist

how about just have the Minstrel sing the Ballad of the Darklight Raiders and have us take on the Chimera that wiped them all out?

Well there are endless possibilities when you have the power of...

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12-20-2013, 02:32 AM
Alhanelem

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Originally Posted by Recaldy

Seeing how easy it is to simply throw in boss fights...why not? I'm pretty sure they have it planned somewhere down the line.

It wll not. that fight was specifically stated to be exlcusive to the 6UE story line and will not be repeated again. It won't be brought back "because fun." or for any other reason. Exclusives should stay exclusive, otherwise promises are being broken. (I'm looking at you goobbue mount).
12-20-2013, 02:43 AM
Tanama

As someone who missed out on that fight, I'd be first of the flock that would love to experience that battle.
12-20-2013, 02:51 AM
Tupsi

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Originally Posted by Sotek

Ultima Weapon is dead too, The Wandering Minstrel can let us relive such battles because he is effectively just telling a ballad recounting the battle. Darnus wouldn't be brought back, we'd just be redoing the battle because fun.

Did you beat Turn 5? It'd be much more clearer as to why Darnus "revisited" wouldn't make much sense, especially considering the one time nature of it (We've yet to relive any storyline related to the 7th umbral era.) It'd be fun, but we already had the two versions of it. The Retelling of Ultima Weapon is basically just an excuse to incorporate a Hard Mode to Ultima fight and having a darnus would would heavily contradict just about everything, even some present storyline.

So if they do it, they may as well reincorporate every storyline element from 7UE in the next set of main storyline quests or it just simply wouldn't make sense why we get the battle. Heck they even properly explained Hard Mode Haukke Manor.
12-20-2013, 03:03 AM
AvonRekaes

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Originally Posted by Tupsi

(We've yet to relive any storyline related to the 7th umbral era.) having a darnus would would heavily contradict just about everything, even some present storyline.

So if they do it, they may as well reincorporate every storyline element from 7UE in the next set of main storyline quests or it just simply wouldn't make sense why we get the battle.

Wasn't 1.0 and the fall of Dalamud the end of the 6th Astral Era? 7UE is 2.0's main storyline. Also, it wouldn't contradict anything in the storyline if the darnus battle is just in the Wandering Minstrel's imagination, like the Ultimate Weapon hardmode.
12-20-2013, 03:06 AM
Tupsi

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Originally Posted by AvonRekaes

Wasn't 1.0 and the fall of Dalamud the end of the 6th Astral Era? 7UE is 2.0's main storyline. Also, it wouldn't contradict anything in the storyline if the darnus battle is just in the Wandering Minstrel's imagination, like the Ultimate Weapon hardmode.

Yep, the GC storyline in 1.23 was related to the coming of the 7UE, which is where we fought Darnus twice.
12-20-2013, 03:08 AM
Rex

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Originally Posted by Crimen

I believe it was stated that Darnus was dead and was never coming back no matter what. But meh, who knows.

Eh, how many times has Sephiroth died?
12-20-2013, 03:10 AM
Keres

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Originally Posted by Johnist

how about just have the Minstrel sing the Ballad of the Darklight Raiders and have us take on the Chimera that wiped them all out?

So basically like Caverns of Time? An easy excuse to create content set in pretty much any point in Hydaelyn's history.
12-20-2013, 03:10 AM
Rex

I'd love to see Darnus, though I know they did say he wasn't coming back. They could have changed their minds. Or maybe always planned for him to come back.

And though this one is a longshot ~~(upgraded from the hookshot)~~ I'd love to see the world of 1.0 come back in some form. Maybe an expansion that let's you go to the past. Like Wings of the Goddess in FFXI.