Dragoon Buff 2.1

been noticing that nobody discuss about the dragoon buff, are we happy or we need more buff, and how is effect our raid/run. People were discussing alot on SMN and Bard nerf, and some on the monks too, but nobody discuss dragoon.

Personally quite happy with the buff, i crit max at 1250 now, and jump skills is very much blend in into my rotation now. Is very much 10% buff as told

So how you guys dragooners think about the buff ?

I think jump needs a potency of 1000, CT needs a potency of 999 and Full thrust needs a potency of 1250. Oh and flare makes BLM too OP so I think we should have it for aoe attacks linked to STR since INT is a dumb stat. Then we'd be balanced, but mnk would still out theory-DPS us :\

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Originally Posted by Michol

I think jump needs a potency of 1000, CT needs a potency of 999 and Full thrust needs a potency of 1250. Oh and flare makes BLM too OP so I think we should have it for aoe attacks linked to STR since INT is a dumb stat. Then we'd be balanced, but mnk would still out theory-DPS us :\

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seeing your expectations, i believe you will be the perfect candidate for turn 6 boss lol

I'm pretty pleased with it so far it's just that the jumps still seems hard to fit in with my rotations/combo. A part from that playing dragoon has been awesome.

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Originally Posted by Kaiche

I'm pretty pleased with it so far it's just that the jumps still seems hard to fit in with my rotations/combo. A part from that playing dragoon has been awesome.

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i kind of insert powersurge, and all the dives, between GDC, including leg sweep. Its works well

Critting for 1350-1400 with full i90 and allagan spear

Best update... CT CLIPS ARE A THING OF THE PAST

It will now replace it with a new one even if its buffed, and since the first hit damage of CT was raised to 200, even if its gonna clip, you're still better off just using it anyways...makes the DRG rotation flow alot smoother... (and along with other potency buffs, Fracture is now even more useless than it used to be)

This is my favorite change, and I never hear anyone talk about it.

all in all, having pted with a few monks similarly geared to my DRG... I honestly feel like DRG keep up with them just fine... infact, my ST dmg is VERY close to MNK (sometimes more, sometimes less) but HT giving a 15% boost and BFB 30% buff being exclusive to DRG now... We're now MUUUUUUUCH better aoe dps....

At first I was worried Monks were buffed too much compared to us...I take it all back.

I chain my new jumps all together in case my tanks didnt see how AWESOME i was the first time. cuz dragoon = fun, paladin = zzzz.

Other than that, DRG feels awesome, stronger dps with those jumps being legit O-GCD skills, buff to heavy thrust and chaos thrust and phlebotomize... very nice patch for drg, owning the dps checks and really feeling like a high-value member of my group! :D

i love the changes, now only if they lower the recast timers on the jumps and it would be perfection!.

I'm not a Dragoon but I can tell that the buffs you guys got are huge.
On paper it looked like they overbuffed Monks and neglected Dragoons but as far I can tell you guys can pretty much keep up with our ST damage, Monks still do more sustained damage overall but the gap isn't as high as it was before.
Now it's almost unfair that Monk still has the worst AoE damage. :p
I like the changes and think you guys are on a fine spot now.

wew new buff make dragoon good
i can make jump to put between skill due to short animation
+ can move already even in that short jump animation

THE DRAGOON BUFFED SAVED MY SEX LIFE, MARRIAGE, AND HELPED MY CHILDREN THROUGH COLLEGE!

The buffs are nice for sure, and animations in general feel smooth and flow well. Jumps are now easily weaved inbetween other abilities, and in fact, all jumps can now be used safely in a single rotation set. I don't have a solid parse yet, but I am now easily doing over 310 dps on some bosses, but like I said I haven't had a good solid parse to compare yet.

My problem, personally, is Fracture. I keep hearing people say its now a DPS loss so I am going with out it for a few days, but the rotations for me don't feel as solid anymore. I am clipping my dots an awefully lot, instead of rarely prior to 2.1. Idk, should we still be using Fracture?

The only problem now is that with all the BLM AOE nerfs, I end up having to burn a lot more TP for Turn 4 phase 1/4 for the group.

Yes love the new short jump :) as for fracture ..no idea..I'm still using it cause muscle memory makes me press it in my rotation ^.^

Dragoon buffs are awesome -> Look here

Loving the buffs, dealing so much dps now that I actually have to slow down or use Elusive Jump to lower my hate even more so then before.

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Originally Posted by Keagian

Loving the buffs, dealing so much dps now that I actually have to slow down or use Elusive Jump to lower my hate even more so then before.

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Elusive jump finally has a purpose.

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Originally Posted by snowybell

Elusive jump finally has a purpose.

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I use Elusive Jump to dodge that big blue AoE for moogle king.

Then again, that's also new 2.1

I guess it really does FINALLY have a purpose