Can I have my full micro menu back please

Did somebody ask for these buttons to be consolidated? because I sure didnt. Now every action except the main menu (which can be accessed with ESC anyway) takes 2 clicks. Please give an option to restore the old menu.

I'd be really happy with the option to have the old one back!

Agreed.

More options, not less please.

I actually like the new menu, however I do agree that we should have the option to pick between the two.

I really want the old micro menu back, or at least an option to select this style or the old one. This drop down stuff is like a throwback to the dreadful UI of 1.0.

I vote for the full micro menu as well~

I hate the new look. I logged on this morning, first thing I said was wtf is this crap D:

This change ranks among the change that removed custom quest tracking.

For now I shall believe that we should never attribute to malice what can be easily explained by *cough*.

Please give old micromenu back or at least give me the option for it

You can just bind the menu icons to a skill bar if they're used that often.

The idea is that I can have my hotbars free and still have direct access to all those buttons.

It's a bad change because it was never broken. It would have been far better to provide an option to switch into the current "minimal" look.

I want the old menu back. Even if you can bind them to your skillbars, those are already used for my macros, food and stuff. :(

SO many clicks just to do one thing when it took 1/2 the amount required with the old menu.

Please allow us to choose what we have down on our micro menu by a tick the box kinda mechanic with it having it's own tab in customisation.

Greetings,

Below is a comment from Hiroshi Minagawa in regards to the change of the main menu.

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Originally Posted by Hiroshi_Minagawa

Hello.

With the PvP profile, party recruitment feature, housing menu, and commands added in 2.1, as well as the further increase of main commands in future updates, the original display of the main menu would increase to three rows, so we decided to modify the layout in this current patch. If it were the original 2 row horizontal layout, it wouldn’t fit on 1280x720 screens.

When the development team has the bandwidth, we can add a config option for selecting the original type of layout, but it’s really going to eat up a lot of screen real estate as the commands increase, so we decided to limit it to just this layout in this patch and prioritize other UI features.

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You can now shrink the size of the hotbar to 60% size and this size would be the same size as that of the original main menu.

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+1 for getting back the old main menu!

Really hate the changes let me have them back please. The sub menu's are horrible, why would anyone want to click a menu to go through a menu!!!!

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Originally Posted by Battlewrench

Really hate the changes let me have them back please. The sub menu's are horrible, why would anyone want to click a menu to go through a menu!!!!

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People that love ffxi and the white knights of the round coming in force I guess I have to add a new hot bar no bueno SE NO BUENO!!!!

Use the keyboard shortcuts? Once I started remembering them (after playing for all of 3 hours) I never click on the thing.

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Originally Posted by darios

People that love ffxi and the white knights of the round coming in force I guess I have to add a new hot bar no bueno SE NO BUENO!!!!

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I loved XI and still think it's stupid. XI had it because of the age of the game and how it was built.

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Originally Posted by necrosis

Use the keyboard shortcuts? Once I started remembering them (after playing for all of 3 hours) I never click on the thing.

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Pretty much this. I can't even remember which button on the micro menu did what.

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Originally Posted by necrosis

Use the keyboard shortcuts? Once I started remembering them (after playing for all of 3 hours) I never click on the thing.

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This doesn't work for those of us that changed our keybinds on day 1. None of they keybind shortcuts pertaining to the menu exist for me anymore because I used those particular binds for other things now.

I cringe and die a little inside whenever management uses 'management words' like "Bandwidth"

PS3 limitations? PS3 limitations.

Seriously, the new micro menu is awful. Not alphabetized, no customization, no cursor memory feature like the controller menu/original micro menu. A simple option to use the original would suffice, but I don't see a single mouse/keyboard user ever using the new one without some changes.

Hell, just let us choose what buttons we want on the micro menu. That would solve pretty much everything. I'll never use Recommendations, Timers, Key Items, Logs, PvP Profile, Achievements, Stance, etc. If you're so worried about "real estate" and "bandwidth," let me get rid of the ones I don't want.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings,

Below is a comment from Hiroshi Minagawa in regards to the change of the main menu.

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It's my screen, not yours. I prefer to have 3 rows of icons if need be.

Literally PS3 limitations.

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Originally Posted by Roris

PS3 limitations? PS3 limitations.

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def not ps3 limitations. .. ps3 has no micro menu period.... >_>

i kinda like it, i found alot of those buttons to be redundant and needed consolidating. mainly teleport and return

-edit: but i'll agree, buttons like character and inventory should have been kept as they were

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings,

Below is a comment from Hiroshi Minagawa in regards to the change of the main menu.

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Honestly its fine for some actions to be on a sub menu, but now everything except the main menu takes a submenu.

Remember when FFXIV v1 came out and we told you the excessive of use of menus and windows were annoying..... yea we still don't like it

My first reaction when I logged in was "where are all my buttons?!"

It seriously feels broken, given how often I hit some of them. The new menu that pops up almost makes sense, but it's ugly and unintuitive. It doesn't feel right clicking a little red harp button to open a list, and then selecting "teleport" off that list, just to finally select my destination off of another list.

This is awful design.

The mirco menu was cool. Everything I want I can access easily. This is a step back.

Unless you guys are doing it to help PS offset some limitations...

For the love of god people, this isn't a PS3 limitation because the PS3 can't even use the damn micro menu.

"If it were the original 2 row horizontal layout, it wouldn’t fit on 1280x720 screens."

I see the problem. I am happy to announce to you that we are no longer in the year 2001

I agree with everything mentioned here - when I saw the new 'streamlined' buttons-into-menu system, I groaned. It reminds me a little of the horrid slide-out menu 1.0 used and was such a drag to use. However, I mused the reasons for the change was SE probably thought it would be better to have the menu this way to make adding new menu functions and selections easier. And sure enough, Camate's post confirmed that. So although I don't like the change, I understand SE's reasons for doing so. Ah well, like all things, I'll get used to it eventually.

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Originally Posted by TaranNos

"If it were the original 2 row horizontal layout, it wouldn’t fit on 1280x720 screens."

I see the problem. I am happy to announce to you that we are no longer in the year 2001

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Actually, 1280x720 is the official minimum screen resolution supported by ARR, so naturally their GUI design has to reflect this limitation. Not everyone has a high end machine running multiple HD widescreen monitors you know.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

For the love of god people, this isn't a PS3 limitation because the PS3 can't even use the damn micro menu.

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pretty sure it was a joke lol.

either way, i guess its the ffxi'er in me, but i cant remember a time ive ever clicked one of those buttons, other than before i thought to set teleport and return to a keybind. if this is an argument over convenience, dont use the mouse to click the button and just use the keybind. (i dont use a controller so im not sure if controllers can use the cursor)

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Originally Posted by Hanabira

pretty sure it was a joke lol.

either way, i guess its the ffxi'er in me, but i cant remember a time ive ever clicked one of those buttons, other than before i thought to set teleport and return to a keybind. if this is an argument over convenience, dont use the mouse to click the button and just use the keybind. (i dont use a controller so im not sure if controllers can use the cursor)

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It is a joke that only FFXI players would understand I guess lol

I love the new micro menu. I always felt the original was a little too cluttered. Now each button has a category where you can perform specific functions relating to that category.

/signed I miss the old one-click menu!

even the menu got nerfed in this patch.