Good king Moogle

What is the tactic to beat it can anyone tell me? Been trying for the last 2 hours with no luck lol ._.

For those who are asking, the quest from Main scenario unlocked me the Good King Moggle which its name is Thornmarch in the Duty find.

I cant even get the quest to unlock him. >.>
It's not where the patch notes say it is at least.

Has the mechanics changed a lot from 1.0?

What you need is a...
Warrior tank :]
Too bad I'm @work and won't be home for a while to save the day!

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Originally Posted by Pummelo

I cant even get the quest to unlock him. >.>
It's not where the patch notes say it is at least.

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You have to do the main scenario quest and it will eventually show up in duty finder.

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Originally Posted by Pseudopsia

Has the mechanics changed a lot from 1.0?

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I havent been in 1.0 but Ive got matched with people from 1.0 and they said it is kinda different although you still have to kill 1 by 1, but it deals massive AoE dmg and one attack was for 21k dmg. ;/

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Originally Posted by Shujinkou

What you need is a...
Warrior tank :]
Too bad I'm @work and won't be home for a while to save the day!

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Had a party with 2 warriors , the tactics are kinda weird. its not easy as it sounds , you havent tried yet mate .

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Originally Posted by Pseudopsia

Has the mechanics changed a lot from 1.0?

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From the 2.1 Trailer it looked a bit different, saw alot of circles on the ground which i would assume you don't wanna step in lol

I can't wait to slaughter some moogles with my WAR tank. Idk about now, but in 1.0 the strat was to have the tank kite them around the instance while the rest of the party picked them off in order.

Yep, would be awesome if someone in the know could let us know what we need to do to be able to pick this up... patch notes say "The Price of Principles" from Minfila at Waking Sands, but there must be a prereq for that or something, cuz it doesn't show.

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Originally Posted by Molly_Millions

I can't wait to slaughter some moogles with my WAR tank. Idk about now, but in 1.0 the strat was to have the tank kite them around the instance while the rest of the party picked them off in order.

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We tried that, but now it has some ' chains ' which I dont know what they do. Then the moogle just do random AoE attacks which deals MASSIVE damage.

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Originally Posted by rtpsoulx

From the 2.1 Trailer it looked a bit different, saw alot of circles on the ground which i would assume you don't wanna step in lol

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That probably will make it easier.

In 1.0:
- Each moogle appears one at a time and you kill them. You want to kill all of them so the Kings AF doesn't do a lot of dmg.
- After is Summoned and moogles are raised, each moogle will attack the person who had the highest enmity when it died.
- I recall trying to keep the Gladiator and Warrior moogle on the OT. MT kited king around the outside of the room.
- We would nuke the BRD moogle first, then BLM, WHM,THF, RNG, WAR, GLA, finally king.

If it's different then just ignore this.

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Originally Posted by Pseudopsia

That probably will make it easier.

In 1.0:
- Each moogle appears one at a time and you kill them. You want to kill all of them so the Kings AF doesn't do a lot of dmg.
- After is Summoned and moogles are raised, each moogle will attack the person who had the highest enmity when it died.
- I recall trying to keep the Gladiator and Warrior moogle on the OT. MT kited king around the outside of the room.
- We would nuke the BRD moogle first, then BLM, WHM,THF, RNG, WAR, GLA, finally king.

If it's different then just ignore this.

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Nope, the exact same. For every mog left alive before they summon, the aoe does more damage.

Most important: Healers can esuna / leech the confuse off people.

I think I got 'world first' (not that it matters, easy fight) on Gilgamesh since I ran through the unlock quest and two shotted with first party I was in.

Helpful tips:


-Mogs will keep numbers attached to them after they're raised in p2 (helpful)
-MT kites king moogle and the rest (everyone picks one moogle off at a time)
-Healer LB3 is actually really useful here if you're eating it since there's no real one shots here if you get out of the red
-Healers DPSing in p1 helps a lot since healing is minimal

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Originally Posted by Noahlimits

Nope, the exact same. For every mog left alive before they summon, the aoe does more damage.

Most important: Healers can esuna / leech the confuse off people.

I think I got 'world first' (not that it matters, easy fight) on Gilgamesh since I ran through the unlock quest and two shotted with first party I was in.



Helpful tips:


-Mogs will keep numbers attached to them after they're raised in p2 (helpful)
-MT kites king moogle and the rest (everyone picks one moogle off at a time)
-Healer LB3 is actually really useful here if you're eating it since there's no real one shots here if you get out of the red
-Healers DPSing in p1 helps a lot since healing is minimal

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So you're saying that its a DPS check? , cause in every P1 we always leftover 1 last moggle. ._.

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Originally Posted by AnthraxLam

So you're saying that its a DPS check? , cause in every P1 we always leftover 1 last moggle. ._.

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Naw, not at all. 2 moogles left in p1 is perfectly fine. It's when 3 or more are left that it's really bad.

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Originally Posted by Noahlimits

Naw, not at all. 2 moogles left in p1 is perfectly fine. It's when 3 or more are left that it's really bad.

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But we all the time get so wiped in p2 :(

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Originally Posted by AnthraxLam

But we all the time get so wiped in p2 :(

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The tank should be kiting the king mog away from everyone, people should be stunning BLM LBs and other nasty effects. And everyone should get the heck out of the tank's way since king mog hit in a aoe swipe.

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Originally Posted by Noahlimits

The tank should be kiting the king mog away from everyone, people should be stunning BLM LBs and other nasty effects. And everyone should get the heck out of the tank's way since king mog hit in a aoe swipe.

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This.

My last win went as such: Kill order in P1 was PLD > BLM > WHM > RNG > BRD > THF > WAR
Cool thing to do is to leave the '1' on the BRD and remove marks from the remaining moogles before the end of P1

When P2 hits, the BRD is already marked, main tank grabs aggro and takes the pack away from our group. BRD is burned down while one stunner keeps tabs on BLM to interrupt flare. P2 Kill order went BRD > BLM > WHM > RNG > THF > WAR > PLD > King.

Your Mileage may vary, of course.

From another thread on the topic:

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Originally Posted by Raymeo

I can only offer you my tank perspective. My first duty finder group blew the full 90 minutes without ever getting close. We went in blind, but it didn't take long to figure out. The heals just weren't there for us.

I explained it to my second duty finder group and we got it in one shot. I then went in a third time to make sure that the strategy really worked, and it wasn't just a fluke. This new group got it once more with ease after only one wipe, which only came due to an unfortunately timed Confusion on one of our heals. So here's what we did:

Phase One

I marked the targets during phase one, but only so they'd already be marked when phase two began because there was no way in hell that I was going to try to mark everything during phase 2. So with that said, in phase one everyone actually was encouraged to ignore the markers.

The only kill priority in phase one was to focus on the WHM as soon as it popped. The kill order for the rest of phase one isn't really important. As long as the DPS is firing everything they've got, things should die with minimal resistance. The WHM is the only real concern here, because its Cures can make the difference between a Moogle being alive or dead at the transition. As long as you only have two moogles still alive at the transition, the transition nuke should still be survivable. A good duty finder PUG should be able to get it down to only one though. If there are three or more alive, and there's no way for the group to improve their DPS enough to prevent that, then your group's DPS simply isn't going to cut it and you may as well jump ship to spare yourself 90 minutes of torture.

The marks that I placed were as follows, listed in order of the groups that they pop in:

PLD got a red 2
BLM got a yellow 1, and ARC got a yellow 3
WHM got a yellow 2, THF got a yellow 5, and MRD got a red 1
BRD got a yellow 4

Phase 2

I (PLD) stood under the king during the transition. If there was more than one moogle alive at the transition, then I popped Rampart just before the nuke. The moment that the markers reappeared, I fired off Flash two times, Provoked the King (he tends to aggro heals after they cure everyone from the big nuke), hit Flash a third time, then hit Sprint and started kiting everything in a circle along the edge of the arena. One by one, the off tank would provoke a moogle off of me and the group would burn it down. They started with the yellow markers, 1-5, and then moved on to the red markers. Once the little guys were all dead, I stopped kiting and held the king in place near the edge of the arena. I kept him facing away from the group so his frontal nukes weren't a threat. Based on the markers placed in Phase one, the resulting kill order was therefore:

BLM > WHM > ARC > BRD > THF > MRD > GLA > King

Noteworthy during Phase 2 is that one of the moogles can cause the Confusion and/or Charm status. Healers will want to watch for this. My first group's healers couldn't figure out what they were supposed to do about it, but the two healers in my second group figured something out. I don't remember the details of what they were saying during the fight as they figured it out -- I was too busy trying to keep threat on eight mobs -- but I think I saw that Esuna and one other spell proved to be effective in some fashion. I think they mentioned absorbing something for it? Idunno, I don't play a healer so it was all foreign language to me. If this status isn't taken care of though, it can quickly ruin Phase 2. Whichever moogle was causing it though, it wasn't a priority to kill it. The sheer damage from the BLM and ARC, and the heals from the WHM, actually proved harder to deal with even though they appear less threatening on paper.

I wasn't lucky enough to have a Bard throwing Ballad on me in my groups. If I was, then I would have used Flash whenever the moogles caught up to me. Instead, while kiting the group, I mostly tried to conserve my resources by waiting until I lost threat on a target. If I ever did, and it was one of the lesser moogles, then I'd spam Shield Lob without stopping my circular kiting. Once in range, a Lob would end up hitting it, and I'd continue spamming Lob while I kited until I had hate fully back on me -- then I'd hit it with one or two more Lobs for good measure. You don't need to worry about keeping threat up 100% of the time if it robs of you TP that you need for sprinting. It's not the end of the world if you lose a lesser moogle from time to time. Keep your kiting up above all else, and the party should be able to manage just fine until you happen upon a clear shot to pull threat back. The little guys really don't hit that hard, so losing threat on one is not worth changing your kite pattern over -- just spam Lob at lost targets until you have an opportunity to reach them with it, and they'll eventually end up back on you. If you've lost two or three... then maybe you'll want to consider curving in their direction and improvising, but be extremely careful if you try this. If you accidentally wander into a charm or something, it could spell an instant wipe for everyone. (More on what that would entail later.) It might be safer to just ask the off tank to grab one of the ones you lost in that case.

The king is another story. If you're ever at max TP and you feel like you have a sprint-free moment to burn some of it, then you'll want to throw out a Lob or two in his direction. If you ever find that you actually have MP for a Flash, or if you have a Bard helping you with MP, then feel free to fire off a Flash whenever he starts creeping up behind you. You still might lose him from time to time though. Whenever I lost hate on the king, I still wouldn't change up my kiting pattern. That's the situation that I would save Provoke for. I'd immediately hit it with a Provoke. Then I'd spam Shield Lob until I had him a few hits beyond top threat. So aside from the Provoke, I'd get him back on me in the same way that I said I would get one of the little guys back on me. As I said, throw what you can in his direction when you feel like you have resources to spare, but you don't need to overdo it with him. It doesn't take as much as you'd think to hold him for a good long while.

If I saw a green puddle that I had to run through, or if I ever found that my party was camped out on a moogle at the edge of the arena where I was about to be running, then that's when I'd pop Sprint in order to minimize damage on myself and the group. High amounts of TP are good to keep on hand for some lengthy, reliable Sprints, so again -- try to only fire off Shield Lobs if you lost somebody or if you're safely at max TP, and keep the majority of your TP for Sprinting in emergencies.

When it comes to Flash, as I said, without a Bard I tried to conserve resources as much as possible. Without Ballad, I'd only recommend using Flash if the king is creeping up behind you. Otherwise if you are lucky enough to have Ballad on you, feel free to also Flash whenever you have a few of the lesser moogles catching up to you. In any case though, carefully juggling Shield Lobs on the king with TP for Sprints will still be an important balancing act.

When it comes to Defensive cooldowns, they obviously are more helpful to fire off at the early stages of Phase 2 than they are in the later phases. The BLM will be up at the very start of it, and he'll have plenty of AoE that's difficult to dodge. It's safe enough to fire off a cooldown if you see some fire circles on your path, instead of attempting any complicated evasive maneuvers. Green puddles don't seem to show up until the later phases, and if you have to run through those, then using a defensive cooldown immediately beforehand can also make that less threatening. Hallowed Ground isn't especially needed anywhere, so feel free to save it for a worst case scenario: if you see a healer go down, use Hallowed Ground then, to buy yourself a little extra survivability while the remaining healer gets the fallen one back up.

Oh, and speaking of Hallowed Ground, if you ever get charmed or confused as a PLD, don't panic. While a charm/confuse on anyone else would likely spell that player's own death, and a dead kiter would surely wipe the group by unleashing a swarm of moogles onto the healers, chances that are your character will unwillingly pop Hallowed Ground once losing control. So if your character loses control and runs straight into a mass of AoE, dont' worry -- odds are that you're perfectly safe. The problem with you getting charmed is more in the fact that you can't control your movements, and you'll more than likely carry a swarm of AoEing moogles straight into your group. Still not a guaranteed wipe -- if everyone notices in time to disperse, then most of your team should survive the short burst of damage that you bring their way, and you can carry on kiting once the status wears off. If people don't notice in time though... enjoy the show. XD

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From another thread on the topic:

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I feel that's way overly complicated. It's really just four steps:

1. Kill Bard, BLM and WHM moogles first (whatever your team feels is priority)
2. Stun BLM AOE attacks.
3. Kite King Mog while keeping everyone else away
4. Esuna confusion

Everything else is basic boss mechanics.

learn how to kite on part 2 one tank kite the king, one tank kite the minis and kill one by one in the middle while the tank run around the edge.

In P2 we were at full life and after we killed 4 or 5 mog, an aoe (no ground mark) killed us all. Does anyone knows what that aoe is?

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Originally Posted by Bontenmaru

In P2 we were at full life and after we killed 4 or 5 mog, an aoe (no ground mark) killed us all. Does anyone knows what that aoe is?

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king owned you, keep him on the wall even then it reaches almost half way accross arena.

I was surprised at how easy this fight was. It seemed easier than Garuda. Myself and two friends queued up into DF and one shot it lol~

I know you guys says complete the main scenario but I did it and don't have the moogle thingie. I completed all quests and got my mount, watched the credits everything.

P1 you need to kill the moogles was fast as possible, at the end of P1 need to remain 1 or 2 moogles....if you ask why the reason for it is simple! At the begining of phase 2 when they summon the King, he will make an attack witch kind a the same as Titan befor heart phase ! The more mooogles are alive the more dmg it will make with this attack so it can 1hit kill you!

In P2 the Magician moogle needs to die first because it makes big aoe attack with with a lot of dmg, then i think needs to die the moogle with the sword and shield a i think he is the one who makes a pull atack witch also stuns you, after that the bard needs to die then healer!

With a aprty in DF we were until last moogle and king unfortunatly later one of the players got dc and the party was gone :(

I hope i helped a little bit !

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Originally Posted by Orihara_Izaya

I know you guys says complete the main scenario but I did it and don't have the moogle thingie. I completed all quests and got my mount, watched the credits everything.

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We are tolking about the main scenario after the the credits, they added more with this patch, the story goes about moving the Company from walking sands from Uldah.....by making the quests you will get to the point where you are called in Gridania and help the moogles against the Moogle King !

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Originally Posted by MikoteAstra

We are tolking about the main scenario after the the credits, they added more with this patch, the story goes about moving the Company from walking sands from Uldah.....by making the quests you will get to the point where you are called in Gridania and help the moogles against the Moogle King !

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That makes alot of sense.... hahah i'm so stupid. Thanks :)

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Originally Posted by Noahlimits

I feel that's way overly complicated. It's really just four steps:

1. Kill Bard, BLM and WHM moogles first (whatever your team feels is priority)
2. Stun BLM AOE attacks.
3. Kite King Mog while keeping everyone else away
4. Esuna confusion

Everything else is basic boss mechanics.

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No need to kite. Have 1 tank hold king off to the side. Just get rid of Blm and whm ASAP.

Yeah, 1 tank holds king on perimeter, while other tank holds marauder and gladiator. The rest is killed based on order of party danger priority.

Things get WAY easier once bard charm and marauder draw in are mitigated, lol.

the fight is part of the main story so just do them and you'll get to it

It's basically just a matter of killing as many as possible to reduce the giant burst when they summon him and then keeping him away from the group while you deal with adds in whatever order threatens your group the most.

the king seems to just be a big tank that does instant aoe's around himself
bard charms party members
white mage heals
black mage does a really huge aoe around himself
the archer marks targets then shoots them for a fairly hard hit
the warrior basically holmgangs people

not entirely sure what the paladin and thief do though they seem less noticable than the rest other than the paladin melees fairly hard