2.1 Fate change

A FATE's difficulty will now be determined by the number of players who participated in the previous

Interesting, wonder how it willl play out. Hopefully as I interpret it thus FATES will have increased risk for the reward.

Plus i'll find it kinda amusing if it does and watching people rushing into large groups of FATE mobs to spam AE and getting insta-gibbed XD After just breezing the previous one.

more likely it means that if only 2 people are in a FATE, the number of mobs/power of the NM will decrease. however it it gets zerged it will be more or less what we have already experienced.

if you think they will suddenly be 'difficult', lol no.

Actually, it depends on the number of people who participated in the previous spawn. Meaning if it was zerged by 50 people the last time around, mobs will have insane HP and the conditions for Gold will be pretty much impossible to reach. Together with the new dungeon XP and bonus XP from using the Roulette, FATEs should drop down in popularity quite a bit.

I'll be interested in seeing how one person will now be able to solo some FATE when no one participated in the previous occurence. Not that it was I possible to do before (especially for summoners) but it was hard with those FATE compreised of a single beastie meant to be fought in a party.

Not so sure about you guys, but currently in Ton, FATE's population dropped alot. If prior to 2.1, the FATEs are at difficulty 0. Even running with only one FATE party, we have found it taking a lot longer as compared to before the patch. Sometimes, we even fail FATEs at pretty famous areas like Northern Thanalan. >.<

So, that said. I think whatever the adjustments were, FATE Farming for EXP will take a lil longer as compared to the past! I went on and tried leves and roulette, Leves EXP is pretty nice now, the only downside though, is that it takes your allowances. And duty roulette.. I tried it for like 4 runs? Only the first run with the bonus yield magnificent EXP. The rest were not really comparable to FATEs.

P.S. All this results were tested from 44 - 50. So maybe at different levels it might differ.

Yeah, you should do one run in the low level roulette for the bonus experience, then run the highest level dungeon you have access to. You'll get great experience and also upgrade your gear.

Plus, as an added bonus, you'll actually learn how to play the class and not look like a total n00b when you get into level 50 content.

Nothin' but win!

FATES are dead in my server :C i actually liked fate grinding

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Originally Posted by Alphoter5

FATES are dead in my server :C i actually liked fate grinding

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Best part is, a single party can FATE grind easily, and without the blinding overload of spell effects, 10 second FATE completion, or zone lag that accompanied ridiculous FATE swarms before.

Definitely a win in my book.

FATE's take forever now, not even worth the time.

Although I knew about this at least it explains why the Faerie Server had a level 60 Odin Encounter... yeah.. we didn't get him down.

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Although I knew about this at least it explains why the Faerie Server had a level 60 Odin Encounter... yeah.. we didn't get him down.

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AFAIK, Odin's mechanics still work the same way. He gains levels as he is defeated. Eventually he will become too powerful for anyone to beat until we either get i95-i100 gear, or get a level cap raise.

The system is hideously punishing toward anyone who liked playing at offpeak hours.As someone who usually doesn't log on until after the fate rush is over it's basically impossible to do any FATEs in well traveled areas because they're all tuned for groups of 6-20 and you'll be lucky to have three people. Prepatch you could handle everything but the high tier boss FATEs with such a group. Now you have to wait an hour or two for everything to cycle through properly and then maybe you'll be able to get something done.

It also encourages the reverse play pattern: A group forms up and zergs down every FATE early in the afternoon after the zone's been empty for a while and then bails out, leaving the FATEs unmanageable for other players when they pop up again.

FATE difficulty should be adjusting dynamically, not retroactively. Honestly though the change doesn't even seem particularly necessary: Dungeons are hilariously tuned right now with each pack of mobs on their own almost as good as a full quest/leve/FATE by itself, even with no change to FATEs at all they'd still take a back seat to dungeonspamming.

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Definitely a win in my book.

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Only a win if you were one of those people who liked imposing their own style of play on others.

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Although I knew about this at least it explains why the Faerie Server had a level 60 Odin Encounter... yeah.. we didn't get him down.

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That's actually a mechanic Odin's had since before the patch. Every time he's killed he levels up and every time he despawns without dying he loses levels.

I hate to be the person who says this, anyone who does not like the new changes is just lazy. the fixes for fates in 2.1 isn't ideal but its propably the only option, since if they nerf it more its gona be unfair for new players considering the people who rushed to 50 in those fates, at beta or launch.

If they had the chance to redo the whole thing ( which they dont ) i am sure they would have done it very differenlty. for instance less exp on fates and slower leveling in general. makes people spend more time to level up and learn their jobs while also paying SE more.

instead they got people who rushed to 50 first now with full 90 gear not having anything todo and leaving the game. see what fates did? heh. looking back at ff11 it was slow leveling and questing was harder but the game was still sucessfull and i didnt see any of my friends quiting the first year let alone the first 3 months. i have seen already entire FCs leving the game already here and its just been 3 months.

FATE's are much slower now than they were before, but dungeons and Leves are much better so all in all I think the change was beneficial to the game. I was sick of FATE grinding, but it's still an option, dungeon running and Leves are just another viable option now whereas before, they really weren't.