So... did Yoshi explain why the extreme virus nerf and the ROD "EXTREME" nerf?

Since Yoshi commented about housing today morning and i am wondering if they commented on the issue with virus and Rod?

virus was nerfed its in patch notes,

I don't know what rod is, maybe its in patch note too,

I mean as in why, I believe it to be another hot button topic.

He asked why, not what. RoD is Rain of Death.

Because he can.

nah
"Virus was nerfed because all casters could use it sequence one after another and that made it too powerful a spell because it was a really strong debuff." (http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...g_patch_notes/)
guess with RoD its the same

They balanced them both around PVP, which is why they are so extremely nerfed now.

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Originally Posted by Alixe

virus was nerfed its in patch notes,

I don't know what rod is, maybe its in patch note too,

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RoD = Rain of Death. Brd aoe skill whit high TP cost and side effect to reduce targets damage reduced whit 10% (pre 2.1) RoD is now reduce targets evation whit 10%

RoD damage reduction was moved to war (single target effect) if i understand it correct.

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Originally Posted by ReviiLagoon

They balanced them both around PVP, which is why they are so extremely nerfed now.

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If PVP is the reason, head will roll.....

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Originally Posted by ReviiLagoon

They balanced them both around PVP, which is why they are so extremely nerfed now.

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Along with Scathe.

/tinfoil

There is more behind the RoD nerf.
They don't want BRD stacking (or any class stacking), they won't force us not to stack, but they promote not stacking any class.

Now a single target version of the RoD effect has been moved to the Warrior and witht the added Virus nerf, there will be even more reason to get a warrior in your party.

I got your rod right here...

Rain of Death's original Debuff was moved to WAR's Storm's Path ability. With the lower accuracy on CT/BC gear, it gives a good reason as to why there should be an Evasion debuff.

all because of PVP

As for RoD, Yoshida specifically mentioned that it was removed from Bard to give it to Warrior.

I doubt the changes to Virus was because of PvP.

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Originally Posted by Xellos2099

I mean as in why, I believe it to be another hot button topic.

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Virus had near 100% uptime, I think that was a little too overpowered.
Rain of Death however... I don't think so many abilities to dampen damage is wise, but at least make it useful, like AoE attacks do 10% more damage with Rain of Death would have been useful.

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Originally Posted by ReviiLagoon

They balanced them both around PVP, which is why they are so extremely nerfed now.

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Yeap because the PvP skills will be EXACTLY the same as the PvE skills.
They should just both have separate skill sets...

owait.

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Originally Posted by Phaus

Yeap because the PvP skills will be EXACTLY the same as the PvE skills.
They should just both have separate skill sets...

owait.

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While there are specific PVP skills, all PVE skills can be used for PVP.

I doubt that the changes to Virus were because of PVP.
RoD could have been changed because of PVP, but I think its far more likely that they wanted to add more utility to WAR and give parties a reason to use both Paladin and Warrior.

Thunder being replaced with Blizzard II as a cross-class skill? This I can see being because of PVP.

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Originally Posted by Gilthas

While there are specific PVP skills, all PVE skills can be used for PVP.

I doubt that the changes to Virus were because of PVP.
RoD could have been changed because of PVP, but I think its far more likely that they wanted to add more utility to WAR and give parties a reason to use both Paladin and Warrior.

Thunder being replaced with Blizzard II as a cross-class skill? This I can see being because of PVP.

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I'm sure they PvP equivalent of PvE skills have been tweaked already from the oringal to be more suited. This is just an assumption but seems logical.

I really don't think they nerfed virus because of PVP. On single target bosses, I can imagine why.

Also RoD was nerfed because they gave WAR a single target ability effect that lowers dmg dealt to the same degree, likely anyway. Sucks for BRD, but they wanted to push WAR out as more desirable than before, and they certainly did.

If bard can lower an enemy's evasion by 10% he is inherently reducing the required Acc of the party. This allows the party to make additional choices in gear (less acc, more secondary stats). I believe this change affirms the Bard's role as a support job and when used in the sense I described above can provide the party with 10% more stats allocated in areas other than accuracy.

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Originally Posted by Sinth

If bard can lower an enemy's evasion by 10% he is inherently reducing the required Acc of the party. This allows the party to make additional choices in gear (less acc, more secondary stats). I believe this change affirms the Bard's role as a support job and when used in the sense I described above can provide the party with 10% more stats allocated in areas other than accuracy.

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Maybe also a reason why allagan gear has not so much acc. It would be the role of the BRD to fill up the missing acc

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Originally Posted by Parodine

I really don't think they nerfed virus because of PVP. On single target bosses, I can imagine why.

Also RoD was nerfed because they gave WAR a single target ability effect that lowers dmg dealt to the same degree, likely anyway. Sucks for BRD, but they wanted to push WAR out as more desirable than before, and they certainly did.

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Well they FORCE WAR into our throat.

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Originally Posted by Xellos2099

Well they FORCE WAR into our throat.

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Forcing BRD and/or PLD is any better?

What about making things so that the two melees fight over a possible spot in a party? That better?