not getting any response in the other thread. and i am still curious on some of these points... so...
2.1 Details in The Lodestone
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...7af43f3c43828a
Side Story Quest Preview (12/12/2013)
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...9798d594958db7
A Realm Rewoken's Main Page
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/spe..._Realm_Awoken/
is the Hildibrand Returns quest line a main story quest or side story quest? it is listed as side story in two places and listed as main story at the Realm Rewoken page.
Guild Leve's
Shards awarded for completing fieldcraft leves have been increased.
what leves award shards? only item i have ever gotten from any fieldcraft leve is a Cordial.
Battle
The following changes have been made to actions and statuses:
Conjurer - Medica II.
why weaken this spell? for PvP purposes? i can understand that. but honestly the spell is already weak as it is. it already causes too much enmity for such a weak spell. and now it's weaker... why?
Thunder can no longer be used as an additional skill by Disciples of Magic.
i am just curious why do this? it does not seem significant.
Status affliction resistances will now begin counting after the last corresponding status affliction is received.
what does this even mean? can someone please explain this one to me? thank you.
Damage-over-time actions that target the ground such as Flaming Arrow and Shadow Flare will now break sleep and bind effects.
i don't understand how this is any different then what currently happens. i play with BRD in AK a lot. and their Flaming Arrow has always broken sleep/bind effects. (i don't know anything about Shadow Flare)
In light of the above increase in EXP yield, link bonuses no longer apply in instanced dungeons so as not to affect enemy placement.
what are link bonuses? and how do they affect enemy placement?
The following changes have been made to pet actions:
When set to Obey and Steady, pets will only execute actions when commanded, and will remain in the Steady stance.
does this mean Carbuncle won't even use Gust on its own when using Obey now?
Items
When gathering, players may now discover items with the following properties:
Rare: Only one of these items can be obtained from this gathering point.
Hidden: This item cannot normally be obtained from this gathering point.
when or how exactly can a hidden item be obtained?
System
The number of items that need to be traded will now be displayed at the top of NPC trade windows.
what kind of trade? the regular trade when turning in a quest?
Hotbars that are called by simultaneously holding LT + RT, or L2 + R2, can now be registered.
i am a PS3 player and don't even know what LT or RT is. do you mean L1 and R1? or maybe L3 and R3? also i don't understand this feature. maybe if i knew what LT/RT is. :/
If the XHB control setting is set to "Toggle," XHB will become inactrivae when the new window pops.
i know what the XHB is. i just don't understand this feature. please explain someone. :)
Actions, such as autorun or registering cross hotbars, that require L1 + LB to be held down simultaneously will be unavailable while L2 + R2 and LB + RB cross hotbars are activated.
again... what is LB and RB? why can't we just use what the crap the buttons are really called. no need to be vague. :/
It is no longer possible to access subcommands by pressing the confirm button with a character selected.
Subcommands can be accessed by right-clicking the mouse, or pressing the x button/ □ button on the gamepad/controller.
the X button IS the confirm button. can we or can we not open the sub-menu on a selected player with the X button? currently we can. and it's just awful.
A "Display log message" checkbox has been added to the emote menu.
Unchecking this box will hide emote messages from your log.
what log?
any help understanding any of this is greatly appreciated. :)
About Some 2.1 Details
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12-17-2013, 01:27 AMBLaCKnBLu3B3RRYAbout Some 2.1 Details
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12-17-2013, 01:41 AMDarkBMedica II was actually extremely good, the regen was very high especially if used in combo with divine seal, it was very nice to have a whm using medica II on coil/titan. Now you have half the potency but double the time, i dont think its that bad, still i prefer how it was before.Quote:
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To nerf smn dps? Thats only reason.Quote:
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You could sleep a mob and then apply a dot without waking him up. Wasnt working as intended.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY
I assume exp chain on killing mobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY
All the trades that requires a NPC, so yes, regular trade when turning a quest too.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY
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12-17-2013, 01:48 AMRune_Crystalblade
Well I'm no SE but I can do my best to tag a couple of these.
I would imagine that the main reason, isn't that they are weakening it. Cutting it in half, then doubling the duration really kind of works out to be about the same overall. But I think the change came more in light of WHM's who were complaining that Medica II generated too much Burst Enmity on things like Titan and Caduceus, so they brought it down to stabilize the enmity gain over a longer timeframe.Quote:
Conjurer - Medica II.
why weaken this spell? for PvP purposes? i can understand that. but honestly the spell is already weak as it is. it already causes too much enmity for such a weak spell. and now it's weaker... why?
My guess is that this is a bug fix more than anything. Sounds like someone had found a wait to make resistance's reset by using another status effect to me. Basically the resistance counter is what determines weather or not something like stun is effective, for how long, and weather or not the effect is fully resisted. I'm not sure what the specifics are but it sounds like something along the lines of someone found a means to reset a stun resistance counter, by using a different status effect.Quote:
Status affliction resistances will now begin counting after the last corresponding status affliction is received.
what does this even mean? can someone please explain this one to me? thank you.
ement?Quote:
In light of the above increase in EXP yield, link bonuses no longer apply in instanced dungeons so as not to affect enemy placement.
what are link bonuses? and how do they affect enemy plac
A link bonus is bonus exp for killing multiple enemies back to back. It's the time between when you killed the last mob, to the time you engaged another. You probably saw this more when you were leveling in the form of a "Chain bonus" which in dungeons is basically the same thing, but hidden from player sight. So all they are doing is removing that menial bonus and putting an actual EXP boost in. The placement means that mobs had to be a certain distance from each other in order for the link bonus to even work, and usually in a positioning that allowed one target to be killed and the other to be quickly engaged.
I would imagine so yes, because when you put a pet on standby, Eos in my case, and tell her to use Whispering Dawn, she'll instantly go back to active mode and spam all her abilities. In standby all they will use is their basic move, or in my Case, Embrace. So SMN's rejoice for no more unwanted Garuda pushback lol.Quote:
The following changes have been made to pet actions:
When set to Obey and Steady, pets will only execute actions when commanded, and will remain in the Steady stance.
does this mean Carbuncle won't even use Gust on its own when using Obey now?
LT and RT and Left Trigger and Right Trigger. These are L2 and R2 on the PS3 Controler. I think this was kind of said in error and they MEANT R1 and R2.Quote:
Hotbars that are called by simultaneously holding LT + RT, or L2 + R2, can now be registered.
i am a PS3 player and don't even know what LT or RT is. do you mean L1 and R1? or maybe L3 and R3? also i don't understand this feature. maybe if i knew what LT/RT is. :/
Right Bar, Left Bar. These are the Hotbars that you trigger on with R2 and L2. So basically it's the set the works with those buttons. So R2 for instance will activate the LB (Left bar) of skills. Hopefully that makes sense.Quote:
Actions, such as autorun or registering cross hotbars, that require L1 + LB to be held down simultaneously will be unavailable while L2 + R2 and LB + RB cross hotbars are activated.
again... what is LB and RB? why can't we just use what the crap the buttons are really called. no need to be vague. :/
They mean that X will no longer bring up the sub-command menu... Just Square.Quote:
It is no longer possible to access subcommands by pressing the confirm button with a character selected.
Subcommands can be accessed by right-clicking the mouse, or pressing the x button/ □ button on the gamepad/controller.
the X button IS the confirm button. can we or can we not open the sub-menu on a selected player with the X button? currently we can. and it's just awful.
Chat log.Quote:
A "Display log message" checkbox has been added to the emote menu.
Unchecking this box will hide emote messages from your log.
what log?
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12-17-2013, 02:17 AMWizmastrLT/RT are Left Trigger and Right Trigger on a Xbox controller. They are the same as L2/R2 on PS3.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY
LB/RB are Left Bumper and Right Bumper on a Xbox controller. They are the same as L1/R1 on PS3.
The PC version of FF:ARR can use a Xbox controller so they give the name both for the PS3 and the Xbox.
When set to "Toggle", pressing L2 or R2 activate the related part of the XHB until L2 or R2 are pressed again. You can then perform actions just by pressing cross, square, circle, etc... When a popup opens on the screen, and the XHB is toggled, pressing circle to cancel the popup actually fire the XHB action mapped to the (L2 or R2)+circle slot. This wont be the case anymore then.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY
(I'm using my PS3 controller in mixed mode, so I have sometimes my XHB toggled. What I described has happened to me sometimes. -
12-17-2013, 02:27 AMNaunetThis is a bit off-topic, but... who the heck uses Medica II on Caduceus? 99% of the healing is on the tanks. xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Rune_Crystalblade
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12-17-2013, 02:30 AMRune_Crystalblade
Not me, but I've gone with some pug groups that use it occasionally after the split, probably with cross healing in mind since the healers are generally directly between both tanks. I'm not a big fan of using it on that fight though. I could see there being a problem on ADS, but other than that... kinda pointless skill in BC when your doing so much spam healing on tanks lol
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12-17-2013, 03:29 AMBLaCKnBLu3B3RRY
awesome deal everyone! thank you so much for so many great responses! :)
Medica II
i can understand the Medica II thing more now. it does cause a ton of enimity. so not having to use it as often is nice. i just hope it will still be a viable spell.
Thunder
i was always under the impression SMN had lower DPS. i hear many complaints. like they have a long ramp up time. so only do well in exalted fights. (only what i hear) oh well. i am sure it is fine. some people probably exaggerating.
Damage over Time
OH! i know what i was missing here. the Flaming Arrow must had been BEFORE the status effect. cause i am WHM. if i sleep an enemy and use Aero they wake up from the base potency damage. but if you use Aero first they will stay sleeping. :)
Resistance Counter
i see. makes sense. :)
Link Bonus
@Rune_Crystalblade. i think the "ement" is cut off only on your end. :/
okay i understand now. lols they are vague and could had said chain bonus instead of link bonus. no worries though. and thank you :)
NPC Trade
but the game already tell you how many items the NPC wants in the trade. it tells you a number in the place holder for the item where you give it to the NPC. maybe i am just missing something here.
Pet Modes
oh maybe i am thinking of something wrong then, have not played ACN much. but i really liked how i could initiate an attack with one of the actions. and the Carbuncle would only use Gust. (thought it was Obey. the other red one that is not Sic) but with Sic it would use Gust and the other action that applies a knockback.
i don't know. we will just have to see.
Sub-menu with X button
yeah. kinda figured they goofed up there. ^_^
XHB Toggle mode interactivity
awesome! this is good news :)
Thank You, DarkB, Rune_Crystalblade and Wizmastr! Thank You Very Much. :)
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Emote Message
i am still not clear on what the purpose of this feature is for.
can't we already remove emote message from the log? there is a Standard Emote and Custom Emote option in the filter settings. or is an "emote message" something entirely different?
LB/RB and LT/RT buttons
i totaly get what you say here. however there seems to be a confliction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wizmastr
if LB = L1 then what do they mean by L1 + LB? this should make zero sense. mayeb SE made a typo. also if LB/RB = L1/R1... what would holding L1+R1 do? that does absolutely nothing as far as i know.
Actions, such as autorun or registering cross hotbars, that require L1 + LB to be held down simultaneously will be unavailable while L2 + R2 and LB + RB cross hotbars are activated.
still trying to understand this. i think i only half understand it. i hope it means when i am holding down L2/R2 and using the L1/R1 buttons for targeting. that hopefully when i press L1 while moving to target somehting it won't turn on auto-move anymore. that was so annoying.
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still got some more :) no worries if people can't answer. after all nobody has played any of the update yet.
is the Hildibrand Returns quest line a main story quest or side story quest? it is listed as side story in two places and listed as main story at the Realm Rewoken page.
Guild Leve's
Shards awarded for completing fieldcraft leves have been increased.
what leves award shards? only item i have ever gotten from any fieldcraft leve is a Cordial.
Items
When gathering, players may now discover items with the following properties:
Rare: Only one of these items can be obtained from this gathering point.
Hidden: This item cannot normally be obtained from this gathering point.
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12-17-2013, 04:23 AMRune_CrystalbladeI don't know that this is involved in all the leves but I know when I did Alchemist, there were a few of the earlier leves that gave me some Water Shards. Didn't see it much on the upper level leves, but it would give like 5 at a time I think, so they are probably bringing that yield up to be more beneficial to a crafting class.Quote:
Shards awarded for completing fieldcraft leves have been increased.
what leves award shards? only item i have ever gotten from any fieldcraft leve is a Cordial.
We don't know much about the treasure hunts other than what was revealed in the patch notes, so it's hard to say. The hidden I assume is going to work like the unspoiled nodes in a sense, that you will need a special skill, or perhaps a minimum Gathering/Perception to even find them. More likely though it's just an RNG kind of thing (Random Number Generation) where it's something like 1/1000 probability of finding the hidden... You just never know with SE, if something is valuble, you can bet that you'll either be working your @$$ of to get it, or that it's going to be nearly impossible to find.Quote:
When gathering, players may now discover items with the following properties:
Rare: Only one of these items can be obtained from this gathering point.
Hidden: This item cannot normally be obtained from this gathering point.
when or how exactly can a hidden item be obtained?
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12-17-2013, 05:11 AMBLaCKnBLu3B3RRY
hm. well i have not done any tradecraft leve's. so i wouldn't about shards and them. but i have done fieldcraft leve's starting from like Lv1~3 all the way up to 50. and i don't recall ever getting any shards. though maybe they are given and just not stated in the log. will have to pay attention to this next time playing.
and then again maybe SE really means tradecraft and not fieldcraft leve's.
as for the other two things. i really didn't expect anyone to have an exact answer for those. but it was worth bringing up i thought.
either way great input. very helpful all of it. thank you very much.
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12-17-2013, 05:13 AMOsirus
I'm glad they're nerfing our Medica II. No more extreme burst enmity. Thank you SE...thank you.
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12-17-2013, 05:30 AMRune_CrystalbladeQuote:
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12-17-2013, 05:58 AMBixbyWith the text commands, you can perform the animation for an emote without having it show in other's logs by adding "motion" to it. E.g., typing "/panic motion" without the quotes. This checkbox will let you do the same thing (use the animation without spamming anyone's chat log) via the emote window.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY
They just should have used slashes or something. They mean LB or L1, depending on the type of controller you're using. Obviously you can't hold LB and L1 at the same time, they're the same button on different controllers.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY
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12-17-2013, 06:28 AMBLaCKnBLu3B3RRY
Emote Message
if people enable this... then how when others know when that person is directing an emote towards them? this just seems like an odd option to me. why worry about what is other peoples chat box? if they don't wanna see the emote spams can't they just turn off the filter option?
i understand your explanation. and what the feature does. i just don't understand its usefulness.
and that other thing...
Actions, such as autorun or registering cross hotbars, that require L1 + LB to be held down simultaneously will be unavailable while L2 + R2 and LB + RB cross hotbars are activated.
okay i can get how there is a typo there. maybe that whole thing is filled with typos.
i don't know of any interaction with XHB and L1. and i also don't know anything about using XHB with L1+R1. maybe they just messed this string up really bad. either that i am brain dead. xD -
12-17-2013, 06:59 AMBixbyIt has several uses.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY
Stringing together several poses in a row to make up your own "dance" without spamming the chat logs. Or spamming the same emote over and over just for fun. Or a silly way to see if someone is watching. Or doing the motion for an emote with an alternate meaning:
/scared motion
/em has a brief spasm for no reason.
The animations for emotes can look like lots of things that are different from what the log message says, and it can be amusing to mess around with what it looks like. -
12-17-2013, 07:03 AMBLaCKnBLu3B3RRYQuote:
Originally Posted by Bixby
oh wow. as you can probably imagine i am not the creative type. xD
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12-17-2013, 10:07 PMruskie
I believe the L2+L2 and L1+R1 are TWO new crossbars added. So they would be active only when you hit both buttons at the same time. It was discussed during the earliy days iirc.
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12-19-2013, 03:37 AMWizmastrYes it's not really clear without testing it. When you are actively pressing R2 or L2 and have the XHB active, pressing R1 or L1 will target the next nearest/farthest mob. This allow to change target without releasing R2/L2 to use the directional buttons. But when the XHB is toggled, if you pressed L1 for instance, you would change target (because the XHB is active) and also engage autorun and gloriously run in front of the next mob pack. This wont happen anymore, when the XHB is toggled, R1 and L1 will behave as if R2/L2 were active.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY
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01-06-2014, 05:29 AMSolfleurIt's a nostalgic nod, imo, to the FFXI days when characters could make up amazingly complex dances (tarus!) and other motions that made them even more...human for lack of a better word. It was FUN and this over-geared, over-simplified, overly bastardized version of the game in which everyone takes themselves FAR too seriously needs more of it! I say we dance our non-existent asses off and remember what we're here for!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bixby
Now we need them to work on that PATHETIC excuse for auto-trans. We used to be able to have entire conversations in auto-trans with Japanese players (or players from any other nation) and even within our own linkshells for fun. It was GREAT! They've cut too many corners and left their loyal players out in the cold trying to cater too much to ...everyone in simplifying and speeding up the leveling and adding wow factor (pun intended) to the graphics. -
01-06-2014, 05:54 AMSolfleurThis is intended for people standing together...you know, like friends or parties or other groups of people within a certain vicinity of one another. Just as in normal human interaction, there is verbal and nonverbal interaction.Quote:
Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY
This is just a way of making the game less dreadfully serious and perpetually GOAL ORIENTED all the time. It's like people have totally forgotten this GAME is a GAME...aside from people jumping around all over like a bunch of jackasses on crack that is. There are other ways to express light-hearted camaraderie in this game, and this feature is one of them. It makes people more approachable without being invasive. You can ignore them or you can join it, and it doesn't clog up your chat log with a bunch of unwanted...well you know...