Disclaimer: I don't care at all about housing
I see people acting like the sky is falling over housing prices. What, did people really think that they would just be able to casually buy the best housing slots day one? SE has repeatedly said it would be expensive. And yet, on my server leviathian, which is in the mid tier, you can get a day one house for 8mil. Hell, I'm pretty sure my raid group alone could probably afford that if we wanted to, much less our guild. And that's just day one. If we waited a little bit, we could get one for even cheaper. If the top tier housing was cheap, then it wouldn't be special, wouldn't be an achievement.
I think that other than the legacy server pricing, the prices are fine. So you might not be able to buy a large first class plot on tuesday. Suck it up and either buy a cheaper one, or wait a little bit.
I don't get the outrage over housing prices
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12-15-2013, 05:39 PMMBTL90I don't get the outrage over housing prices
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12-15-2013, 05:40 PMjomoruQuote:
Originally Posted by MBTL90
Why should the cheapest worst possible house be a difficult achivement? -
12-15-2013, 05:40 PMReiszRie
Players are confusing FC housing with Personal housing
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12-15-2013, 05:42 PMLadonPretty much. Plus they are upset that housing won't be yet another instant gratification token.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReiszRie
I'm happy to see that they are making FC housing an achievement that people are going to have to work together towards if they want the best. -
12-15-2013, 05:43 PMHumsterMKX
Well, to be fair I don't see why ppl only see the world through their own eyes and totally neglected problems faced by others.
But hey, can't change a person's rosy glasses till they take it off themselves. -
12-15-2013, 05:44 PMMBTL90Its not. Like I said, between the 8 people in my raid, I'm pretty sure we have at least 8mil, if not more. We haven't been saving for it or anything, 1mil per person isn't that hard to conceive of.Quote:
Originally Posted by jomoru
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12-15-2013, 05:47 PMReiszRieThe problems faced by others isn't really a problem to begin with, FC housing never was designed to be available to everyone, we all knew it is going to be exorbitant and it is going to serve as a form of status symbol for those who could afford it at launch.Quote:
Originally Posted by HumsterMKX
I really don't see the issue here, if you can't afford a premium grade Kobe beef steak, you really can't demand the restaurant to lower the prices to a level just so you can afford it. -
12-15-2013, 05:49 PMGrizzlebeardI'm interested how you manage to have 1 million gil with only mining at 30 and no craft skills levelled at all. Do you just sell Primal runs?Quote:
Originally Posted by MBTL90
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12-15-2013, 05:50 PMHumsterMKXIt depends actually. Again, do understand that, If I can do something, it does not mean everyone can. I can get something, does not mean others that can't get it, deserve it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MBTL90
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12-15-2013, 05:52 PMjomoruYou do not represent the majority. That's why people are complaining Most people I know have maybe 100k to their name.Quote:
Originally Posted by MBTL90
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12-15-2013, 05:54 PMHumsterMKXCan't change how wanna think. Sometimes 1 need to understand themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReiszRie
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12-15-2013, 05:57 PMNaharaThis is why, more or less.Quote:
Originally Posted by MBTL90
Housing was something that myself, my friends, and a whole lot of other people were really, REALLY looking forward to. SE was so tight-lipped about how much it would cost, so at least I and all my friends (and I'm sure a lot of other people) just did our best to make money and save. We're not super rich, we don't play the marketplace, and those that are Legacy players aren't any richer than the rest of us; we're more-or-less normal, casual players who saw a feature that looks really damned cool and wanted to get in on it by saving as best we could.
And then SE released the prices, that changed based on whatever metric SE used to measure the wealth of a server. All the months of excitement and hope that we could get a home for our Free Company came crashing down in one sudden, hard instant. It's only reasonable that we'd get upset about something we were so eager and looking forward to get snatched away because of the apparent wealth of the server. And it's even worse for people on Legacy servers.
http://i.imgur.com/zXXMOvK.png
These are the prices for Hyperion, my server. 20,000,000 for the smallest, cheapest, lowest-grade house, and even if we got super lucky and were somehow able to pick up a plot of land after 3 months of waiting for the price to drop by half, that's still five times as much money as it took us this long to scrape together. On top of the cost of the actual house and the furniture. That hurts. -
12-15-2013, 06:08 PMKewitt
RMT activate News at 11,
Investigation of all FC who buy large plots of land 72 hour ban well accounts are checked for RMT transaction. -
12-15-2013, 06:19 PMCraigerIf everyone had 100k, you would be able to buy the small plot with 40-80 players... (depending on server group) I'm not saying you have to be in a FC with that many players, but that's with only 100k, which is nothing if you're trying to get money. You can easily get that money if you just try. Even a 8 man FC only have to gather 1mil gil each (most expensive non-legacy server group), which sounds like tons of money for a lot of people, but if you just try to get money and not just do dungeons, then you will easily get that money.Quote:
Originally Posted by jomoru
I have about 100k gil too, but I haven't done anything except doing dungeons and selling maybe 1 or 2 tome items. I have no crafters, and I have spend money on 3 relic-quest items.... I know that I can't complain about having little money, when I haven't done more. You can't have been doing more either.... -
12-15-2013, 06:25 PMAirikayI'm guessing you're new, but time craft items use to sell for quite a bit. Where it wasn't unheard of to make a couple million a day just selling them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzlebeard
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12-15-2013, 06:28 PMHumsterMKXYa and a lot of them lost all their gil some banned in a rmt witch hunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Airikay
No wait it is all for the great good of the community. O well, at least I tried <-- a great lie I told myself. -
12-15-2013, 06:31 PMMBTL90We've sold primal runs before, although haven't done it recently. I currently have about 500k after buying some gear for an alt. I also made a bunch of money by selling stuff early at lvl 50. Other members of our raid have 1.5-2m, those with actual crafts. If i wanted/needed the money, I could make it. Look, our raid group has more money than your standard 8 players from a casual guild. But 8 million is obtainable, especially with even an average size guild at 15-20 players. Or you could just wait a little and not get in on the initial rush.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzlebeard
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12-15-2013, 06:35 PMjomoruI have maxed all crafting. I am not one of the people who only has a 100k. But I know I am ON ALOT MORE Than them. PEople who struggle to find time to get in even their weekly 300 myths. People who have only pushed through the story. these are pretty high percentage of the people I know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craiger
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12-15-2013, 06:53 PMZephyrAMFC's full of these people are the FC's that are going to have to wait on housing. The prices drop over time. Further, they're clearly not FC's that should be expected to be able to achieve the best housing.Quote:
Originally Posted by jomoru
Housing isn't a one and done deal here, I imagine if all of the plots are actually bought up quickly it'll mean two things: the prices clearly weren't as outrageous as people thought, and SE will almost certainly open more housing over time.
And if they aren't bought up quickly, then there's no problem waiting on the lot prices to fall. -
12-15-2013, 06:57 PMFatestorm
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Question asked, question answered.Quote:
Originally Posted by MBTL90