So, there's a line of red text in the treasure maps section in the patch notes mentioning an 18 hour cooldown. I could have sworn I'd read somewhere that there were degrees of ownership of a map leading to allowing a player to do them all day, just not have more than one active at a time or some such.
Are we really confined to an 18-hour cooldown on treasure maps? That's kinda ridiculous.
Like, what if we fish, harvest, and mine seperate ones?
Wait, so treasure maps are on an 18 hour cooldown?
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12-15-2013, 12:08 PMOmedonWait, so treasure maps are on an 18 hour cooldown?
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12-15-2013, 12:09 PMispano
It means you can only FIND a map every 18 hours. If you get a map from say Botany, you won't be able to get another for 18 hours. If you get a bunch, you can do them all in a short period, just can't gather them up that quick.
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12-15-2013, 12:12 PMOmedonSo... it's basically a singular "daily quest" for people that level gatherers? That's... I mean I really wanted to gather and do them all day long. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by ispano
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12-15-2013, 12:12 PMRickySorry bro, you are only allowed to have fun in the game you pay a monthly fee for on their termsQuote:
Originally Posted by Omedon
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12-15-2013, 12:17 PMLuso
Buy some from the market boards. I'm sure there will be players who will gather these to sell.
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12-15-2013, 12:20 PMOmedonI mean, I know that's an option and all... but I leveled all 3 gatherers to 50 so I would not have to buy "From the land" items.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luso
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12-15-2013, 12:20 PMBoohissAnother buff for the RMT gil sellers! Hooray!Quote:
Originally Posted by Luso
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12-15-2013, 12:23 PMNuinn
Unfortunately only one item found per 18 hours, unless you make an alt, level it to 15, pick a gatherer class and level it to 50 as well @___@ Shame, Treasure Hunt seems fun. I wish they just made the probability of finding a map while gathering extremely rare without the artificial lockouts. On the other hand, so much of the stuff in ARR is (or will with this new patch) revolve around artificial lockouts :/
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12-15-2013, 12:24 PMLobselvith
How much you want to bet, Treasure maps will be going for at least 100k on the market? ;-)
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12-15-2013, 02:14 PMKiriA500
18 hour cooldown on something? That sounds like something from Final Fantasy XI...
This is the best idea ever! PATCH OF THE YEAR ALL YEARS! -
12-15-2013, 02:19 PMDark-Saviour
It'd be nice if they at least made it once per 18 hours per gathering class. :-(
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12-15-2013, 02:25 PMSeniade
You can also do the treasure maps with groups (in fact, the patch notes even say that the Timeworn Peisteskin Maps are designed for full parties). So if each player has a sufficiently leveled DoH class, that's 8 in an 18 hour period without having to buy from the market boards. But it seems people love to complain about the worst case scenarios on the forum.
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12-15-2013, 02:53 PMNaharaThis is how I and my friends are looking at it. All of us have a gathering class leveled (or in progress), and we plan to do them as a group when we all have a treasure map.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seniade
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12-15-2013, 03:23 PMZourin
This is SE we're talking about.
Remember the XP penalties for playing more than 4 hours back in 1.0? Or the 36 hour Levequest timers?
According to SE's designs, you're only allowed to have fun once per day, six days a week. Anything 'endgame' related also must involve a minimum of 3-6 months of grind to test your patience before deciding if it was worth paying a subscription fee for. -
12-15-2013, 03:53 PMTupsiSorry, not even FFXI has these long of a cooldown on "side" content these days. xDQuote:
Originally Posted by KiriA500
No, but I do recall it dropping you to 0 after a week since gaining Skill Points was a random occurrence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zourin
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12-15-2013, 04:20 PMAlhanelemThe rewards are likely such that its worthy of being a daily thing rather than a spam it all day thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Omedon
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12-15-2013, 04:24 PMMaddox
Its and 18 hour lock out cause.......
SE just cant handle BOOTY. -
12-15-2013, 04:27 PMAlhanelem
The "lockout" is on picking up the maps. every gatherer on the server can find one each day, and a smaller (probably) number of people might buy maps to get more treasure, so it will be a source of income for gatehrers.
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12-15-2013, 04:31 PMZfzOnly the level 50 map is for full parties, all lower level maps are solo maps. And everything but gear drops will be split equally between all members.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seniade
I hope there won't be too many griefers who join treasure hunt parties pretending they have a map, and then when it's their turn to use the map, just drop party. -
12-15-2013, 04:55 PMSotekI doubt it. The rewards they listed:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alhanelem
EXP. Worthless.Quote:
All party members will receive rewards such as EXP, gil, Allagan tomestones, elemental shards, and gear. The contents of the treasure chest will vary depending on the type of treasure map.
Gil. Picture shows 423 Gil, I assume this is the second best map even though there is a party (the recommendation is just a recommendation), hardly worth running out to look for. Room for improvement? Sure, but I doubt the highest tier of map will suddenly skyrocket that Gil.
Tomestones. Philosophy are ridiculously common, Mythology have a cap.
Elemental Shards. Thanks, I guess?
Gear. Yay. If it's high quality gear I'll be pleasantly surprised, assuming it's even gear we can sell. Though I guess that doesn't matter if you're just selling the map itself.
Seems awfully reminiscent of ANNM so far... Except they missed off crafting materials, if you could get some Potash from this it would have been good, though like I said, Philosophy are ridiculously common now. The only materials that I see having any major value though, are the new ones, and those all seem to be Housing focused (even ignoring everyones rage, I don't expect the furniture market to take off until personal housing hits), and unless they're rarer than current Unspoiled materials, they're worthless. Heck, high quality materials are the only ones with real value now, and furniture certainly doesn't seem like it'll be requiring high quality materials... Ideally this could have been something like ISNMs and Wootz ore, but there is nothing like that in this game currently, and there wont be because RMT... Sigh...
This is still something I'll enjoy, but the rewards really don't look great... Maybe the gear will surprise me, though... Still somewhat disappointed though, for the most part I don't bother with regular nodes unless I need Shards/Crystals, I was really hoping, given its completely random nature, that Fishing could benefit from this anywhere, but instead I'll have to go out of my way to visit a non-profitable Fishing hole and have to deal with the completely random nature of it, for something that almost assuredly isn't going to pay off... Not to mention keep track of a bizarre 18 hour lock out, if they've added that to the timers menu it's all good though, but so far the timers menu isn't really living up to the name... -
12-15-2013, 05:47 PMValcro
Well I hope it ends up alittle better than junk. Treasure maps was an really fun event in another MMORPG I played. But because there's only a 18 hour limit on getting them, it worries me it'll be ruined before it even gets off the ground. The great thing about maps in the other game was that they were tiered at 5 levels, with the most difficult tier being extremely rare to find(various methods to obtaining them)and certainly far beyond any measly 18 hour lockouts. The result of these maps were challenging content for your tiered progression with rewards to match all other end game gear, or at worse be a tier under the best. I forget the finer details. As things stand here, there will be what? Maybe thousands of maps farmed every day? Depends how many gatherers are around on your server, and how many will skip using them. Doesn't look so hot for gatherer profit, nor profit in the form of gear you can use.
Just seems like it's going to be yet another event SE thinks up(or rips off but that's ok) but falls very short of being fun and meaningful because SE just can't seem to get the MMORPG thing right. As well as FFXI did in the grand scheme of things, SE just was never able to adjust to the MMORPG way of things, striking that balance that other MMOs had to do because they didn't have the Final Fantasy franchise attached to their name. As a result the players, update after update, would learn well what the Picard double facepalm was, if they didn't already know. I see that we may have a repeat here at FFXIV...