Stat changes to Allagan boots screws up BIS for SMN (maybe BLM)

Take a look at this:

Bonus attributes for the following items have been changed:
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llagan Boots of Casting
Before: INT+18, VIT+18, Critical Hit Rate+21, Accuracy+15
After: INT+18, VIT+18, Spell Speed+21, Determination+11
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citation (http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...7af43f3c43828a)


I am pissed. That means that (for smns at least) our BIS will change. SE changed the stats to pretty much worthless. Spell Speed and Determination? Those are worthless to smns!

So make a new BiS.

No stat is worthless btw.

No, They changed it because it is the exact same as the Blackmage Myth shoes. But instead of just changing that...they change the one that effects SMN as well. Dumb choices from a dumb balance team

in my case following the bis sets puro strider did just means i need to change my boots since i have the allegan. i donno how good are they for summoner. but changes have been done to all of the allegan gear that had the same exact stats as the myth gear, the healers pants has been changed also and a few others.

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Originally Posted by Seobit

So make a new BiS.

No stat is worthless btw.

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Right, because we have a wide range of gear to choose from. Yes, there is worthless stats. Spell speed... If you have played a blm then you would know that SMNS speed are amazing as it is. Determination, there is another thread here that talks about determination. Pretty much the "added benefits" are nulled because the percentage that would have been added to our damage is less than 1 it is reduced to 0.

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Originally Posted by paradigmfellow

Right, because we have a wide range of gear to choose from. Yes, there is worthless stats. Spell speed... If you have played a blm then you would know that SMNS speed are amazing as it is. Determination, there is another thread here that talks about determination. Pretty much the "added benefits" are nulled because the percentage that would have been added to our damage is less than 1 it is reduced to 0.

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Summoner was already bottle necked to crap with gear because of Garuda's stupid accuracy cap of 450. (without food)

You need accuracy so pick the boots that give you accuracy. Why aren't you crying about the gloves? It's accuracy and spell speed, and I'm sure you didn't have too much of a hard time making that decision when it was time to pick one.

I don't think you know what worthless means.

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Originally Posted by Nemhy

Summoner was already bottle necked to crap with gear because of Garuda's stupid accuracy cap of 450. (without food)

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I agree with you.

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Originally Posted by Seobit

You need accuracy so pick the boots that give you accuracy. Why aren't you crying about the gloves? It's accuracy and spell speed, and I'm sure you didn't have too much of a hard time making that decision when it was time to pick one.

I don't think you know what worthless means.

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They didn't make a change to the gloves, so why would he be upset? What they DID change means you have LESS options to the ACC cap, which is really just dumb, and makes it harder for SMN to get out of the DL cowl. I get it, your setup didn't include the Allagan boots, but I'm pretty sure every single SMN that did now has to go buy myth ones to hit acc cap. Also, wtb crit now.

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Originally Posted by Seobit

You need accuracy so pick the boots that give you accuracy. Why aren't you crying about the gloves? It's accuracy and spell speed, and I'm sure you didn't have too much of a hard time making that decision when it was time to pick one.

I don't think you know what worthless means.

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Like I said in the other post : because we have the choice only between allagan gloves and myth gloves. Myth gloves are better.

We had choice between allagan boots and myth boots. Allagan boots are better.

You can't just screw ONE class to benefit an other one when you could've just change the BLM's myth boots.

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Originally Posted by Seobit

You need accuracy so pick the boots that give you accuracy. Why aren't you crying about the gloves? It's accuracy and spell speed, and I'm sure you didn't have too much of a hard time making that decision when it was time to pick one.

I don't think you know what worthless means.

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Read Nemhy, Hitokirinomad, and Shamirah responds.


I don't think you see the greater picture.

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Originally Posted by Hitokirinomad

They didn't make a change to the gloves, so why would he be upset?

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He can be upset all he wants, but when I tell people to just use the mythology boots instead they look at me like I'm from another planet, when they're already wearing another piece of gear with the exact same stats on it (literally).

MAYBE your BiS got nerfed (people don't even know the stats on the primal accessories yet). No, it's not as bad as you think it is. Get over it.

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Originally Posted by Seobit

He can be upset all he wants, but when I tell people to just use the mythology boots instead they look at me like I'm from another planet, when they're already wearing another piece of gear with the exact same stats on it (literally).

MAYBE your BiS got nerfed (people don't even know the stats on the primal accessories yet). No, it's not as bad as you think it is. Get over it.

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God you do not understand it at all.

What they just did means that they can, if they want without telling us and without any compensation, change the stats on ALL our items in one patch.

Saying it is okay to do that is just going straight into a wall.

Of course they can. I don't see why you'd even think they can't. If you don't like it you're free to leave, that's how it works.

Well if you want to play with words. They can do it but they should not do it.

If you do not understand that... well... good for you I guess

it's kind of a scary precedent, especially to items with accuracy. Hopefully the team will be more careful not to have duplicate items in the future that "necessitate" changes.

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Originally Posted by Shamirah

Well if you want to play with words. They can do it but they should not do it.

If you do not understand that... well... good for you I guess

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Lol. I am glad others agree.

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Originally Posted by Nemhy

No, They changed it because it is the exact same as the Blackmage Myth shoes. But instead of just changing that...they change the one that effects SMN as well. Dumb choices from a dumb balance team

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Couldnt have said it better myself.

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Originally Posted by Shamirah

What they just did means that they can, if they want without telling us and without any compensation, change the stats on ALL our items in one patch.

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So, you're saying that they couldn't do that before?

What?

What is the required ACC again? Something like 430 minimum? Can't we get a decent chunk of it from food?

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Originally Posted by charlemagne

What is the required ACC again? Something like 430 minimum? Can't we get a decent chunk of it from food?

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I can't speak for BLM, but SMN needs around 450 without food to cap pet acc. Pets are not effected by food. SMN previous BIS, including these boots, hit exactly on cap I believe, which was a nice perk after having such strict acc requirements.

I'm praying the new primal jewellery will be able to fill the void, but either way now our choices for boots are kinda lame.

Well for me I had bought the Myth shoes for BLM since I needed accuracy right away(allagan boots were taking forever for me to get). Seems like I made the right choice.....trololololol.