Just ask...

So, over the last few weeks I've been farming materials for weaving and leatherworking off of mobs while spiritbonding. Almost every single time I do, someone comes along, stands there watching for a few minutes, then, without saying a word to me, begins spamming me with trades. After I get mad and tell them to quit it, I'm clearly not botting, they say, "I need to kill those for a quest and you're hogging them all." Okay... so your first thought is to, instead of asking nicely if you can kill a few for a quest, lock me out of all other game functions? Really?

I'm a pretty nice person. I don't bite. I try not to be an asshole unless provoked. If you need to kill the mobs I'm farming for a quest JUST SAY SO, and I'll be more than happy to let you kill them. I'll even help you do it if you need it. Don't just start spamming me with trades like an epic douchebag. Because, you know what, I can play the douchebag too. Every person that starts spamming me with trades like that gets reported for harassment. After a lovely chat with a GM the other week I found that spamming trades on a person like that is actually a banable offense. You could lose your account forever because your first thought was to treat me like a bot, rather than opening your mouth and asking politely.

And on somewhat the same subject, I can't even count how many times I've been gathering crystals or something and some jackass just walks up and starts spamming me with trades without a single word to see if I actually am botting or not. Talk about being a self-important ass. I mean, how hard is it to send someone a quick /tell. Seriously. I get that bots are awful and ruining the economy and all, and I understand how angry people are over them, but you know what? You're not the internet police. Spamming me with trades is going to get you reported for harassment, no matter how good your intentions might be. Get over yourself, and JUST FRIGGEN ASK!!! It's getting pretty damned old.

You are asking for respect and kindness on the internets, I just hope you see the redundancy there.

That's funny, I've farmed all my mats for my crafts, and levelled botanist and miner to 50, and never had anyone spam trade on me. Do you farm by standing still at the same spot, or do you run around going after mobs?

Y'all quit messing up this man's program. Makes him highly irate!

Haha jk but seriously...goto new york for a month.

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Originally Posted by Acaelus

You are asking for respect and kindness on the internets, I just hope you see the redundancy there.

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I don't think you know what that word means...

re·dun·dan·cy noun \ri-ˈdən-dən(t)-sē\
: the act of using a word, phrase, etc., that repeats something else and is therefore unnecessary

: a word, phrase, etc., that repeats something else and is therefore unnecessary : a redundant word, phrase, etc.

: a part in a machine, system, etc., that has the same function as another part and that exists so that the entire machine, system, etc., will not fail if the main part fails

Yeah I've never seen this happen on tonberry and I farm apkallu eggs a lot, my normal etiquette is to only tag if it's clear someone needs it for quests and let them finish it off.

Does trade spamming someone break botting scripts or something? That would be a useful way to break the repeat offenders.

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Originally Posted by Taliph

I don't think you know what that word means...

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Do you know how many threads there are on forums asking for respect or kindness, when there clearly is none? This is a redundant thread. Here, try this

con·text [kon-tekst] noun

1. the parts of a written or spoken statement that precede or follow a specific word or passage, usually influencing its meaning or effect: You have misinterpreted my remark because you took it out of context.

2. the set of circumstances or facts that surround a particular event, situation, etc.

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Originally Posted by Taliph

I don't think you know what that word means...

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Thanks you saved me the trouble. :)

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Originally Posted by Acaelus

Do you know how many threads there are on forums asking for respect or kindness, when there clearly is none? This is a redundant thread. Here, try this

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sorry guy, that's not what you wrote. though it seems you have since learned the words meaning. You should thank him

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Originally Posted by storm

sorry guy, that's not what you wrote.

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Implied actually. But I feel so much more educated.

I feel sorry for ya, I also farmed most of my mats and shards to 50 and never had that happen.

Hell, you more probably catch me afk more then gathering from all the breaks I take to keep me from going to sleep.

What's even better than this is if you're fishing, instead of spamming trade, they'll just train some mobs over to AoE you (which is also a bannable offense, from what I understand).

Had no idea this was an issue. Sounds pretty terrible and I don't blame you at all for getting so upset. The only times where I could see someone assuming it is a bot is if someone was teleporting around nodes which I have seen a lot of times in this game. But since you aren't doing anything sketchy like that and just farming, the least someone could do is send a tell first. That is what would be my first action if someone were to be killing something I need or gathering for that matter.

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Originally Posted by Calyanare

What's even better than this is if you're fishing, instead of spamming trade, they'll just train some mobs over to AoE you (which is also a bannable offense, from what I understand).

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I haven't worked on my fishing yet, but my sister has told me she's found some people who are relentless at this even if you're consistently telling them to stop. :(

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Originally Posted by Marael

So, over the last few weeks I've been farming materials for weaving and leatherworking off of mobs while spiritbonding. Almost every single time I do, someone comes along, stands there watching for a few minutes, then, without saying a word to me, begins spamming me with trades. After I get mad and tell them to quit it, I'm clearly not botting, they say, "I need to kill those for a quest and you're hogging them all." Okay... so your first thought is to, instead of asking nicely if you can kill a few for a quest, lock me out of all other game functions? Really?

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You don't need claim to get credit for quest monster kills. They follow the same principle as Fates. If someone does something like 30-50% of the damage, they get credit so you shouldn't have to change anything you are doing to appease the uninformed.

If she's 50 and ranged and they're say 35 and melee, they're not getting credit.

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Originally Posted by Calyanare

What's even better than this is if you're fishing, instead of spamming trade, they'll just train some mobs over to AoE you (which is also a bannable offense, from what I understand).

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It's called Monster Player Killing (MPK), and I'm pretty darn sure that's bannable.

I've been mass-killing low level monsters to spiritbond too, but can't say I've ever had this happen to me. Hardly anyone ever comes by the spots I farm monsters at. Your point is valid, but I also suggest that you go farm monsters where you know there aren't quest/Hunting Log targets.

I'm pretty sure you can block the spam by blisting them.

Generally people won't suspect you're a bot unless you are standing at the same spot, only killing mobs that spawn in front of you while completely ignoring the same mobs behind you.

There are a lot of bots where the players check in every 15-30 minutes. These bots will have their chocobos out, pretending they're not botting. But you can easily test if they respond. Even if they suddenly become responsive and start running around 5 minutes later, you can still tell they were botting beforehand, such as they will attack anything that you claim and pull in front of them, etc.