Titan stat requirement

I've been trying to find further information on this for a little bit but I can't seem to find anything stating just how much hp and other stats you should have for Titan HM. I wanted to know so I know if I should waste the tomes I have now or just save up a little more and after the first Titan kill I get and get the relic I can just straight up get the plus one weapon.

Sorry if this was asked elsewhere I skimmed a few pages but I didn't see it >w<;

some folks say 3200 HP in job appropriate gear, not faking it with Vit rings.

Kinda depends on your job, but basically full AK gear + garuda weapon can already be enough for Titan.

Usually between 3.2-3.5k HP from gear, acquired from Darklight gear. You would want as high as possible since you are bound to get hit from something because of lag.

But if you can dodge well, AK gear + Garuda weapon are adequate enough. Titan is much more skill based rather than gear (with the exception of the tank, he actually need good gear to survive table flip).

If everything goes well, the only damage your team would sustain is from stomps and geo. Getting hit from everything else puts a burden on healer and the rest of the team.

For the DPS Check on Heart Phase you want to be around 390 or better for your damage stat. For Stomps you will want 3200 to 3800 HP.

Honestly, I feel AK gear (full AK gear) and Ifrit's is the minimum, as long as you can dodge.

However, lag happens, so a buffer is needed.

I'd say Half-DL, Half-AK (or more DL if you want), and Ifrit's is still the weapon to have at least (If you can get Garuda, yay, but you need at least Ifrit's)

I have the HP as a dragoon and I don't fake gear if I can help it xP (didn't kow that was a common issue actually o-o; )

I was more worried on my dps then anything, I ran Garuda at least 22 times today with my FC to try for the weapons but we got everything but the lance to drop.

As far as avoiding the things you should, I normally have no issue unless I get some weird lag spike but that is very rare with my pc. I just know I keep hearing have full Darklight gear to run Titan so I wanted to check into that so I'm not holding back the 3 or so some people waiting on me (fell a bit behind because I was gearing my warrior with darklight due to how much tanking I was doing).

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as far as my current gear its part DL and part green drops from AK and WP and the weapon from WP (because the feather wench won't give me my lance :P )

For the DPS Check on Heart Phase you want to be around 390 or better for your damage stat. For Stomps you will want 3200 to 3800 HP.

I walked around with af gear on my alt summoner and did not die, so in terms of hp, if you can dodge you are fine. . . However in terms of dps in a pug group at least gear in ak or better.

Unlike many other situations, the 3200~ HP requirement is not merely arbitrary. If you do not have this much HP, it is likely you will die during the later stomps (when 10+ in a row happen). There isn't a super strict requirement with other stats as this fight is more skill than stats, but obviously the better gear you have, the higher your potential will be.

I've done it with AF1 gears + Garuda Weapon on my Dragoon.

Looking at your profile, your gear is fine for Titan. A primal weapon would be nice but if rng is not your friend then just go with what you have.

If you have 2.9-3k HP and know how to dodge/properly DPS, you'll be fine. At least i55 weapon, but Ifrit's isn't needed.

If you aren't a min/maxxer that knows your rotation, and best rotation, you'll probably need ~3.3k-3.4k HP. Not for the HP, but for offensive stats to make up for being worse at your job.

Did it with 2.9k hp, not a single problem. All of that hp thing is just a myth. If your healers know what they are doin the only part you have to worry about is your dps uptime.

Your gear is mostly fine but a primal weapon would clinch it. Don't worry about getting Garuda weapon, just get Ifirit which is easier/quicker to grind out.

Also people who say its fine to do with less then 3k hp (really should be 3.2k) the truth is you got carried by overgeared people.

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Originally Posted by MomoOG

Your gear is mostly fine but a primal weapon would clinch it. Don't worry about getting Garuda weapon, just get Ifirit which is easier/quicker to grind out.

Also people who say its fine to do with less then 3k hp (really should be 3.2k) the truth is you got carried by overgeared people.

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No.

There is a vast difference between people who know how to play, and those who don't.

Even among those who know how to play, there is a pretty big difference.

If you're in a group with world first boss killers, you can get away with item level 55 or less.

If you're not, then 3-4 pieces of darklight and either Ifrit or Garuda weapon is recommended.

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Originally Posted by Rosekitten

I've been trying to find further information on this for a little bit but I can't seem to find anything stating just how much hp and other stats you should have for Titan HM.

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Here's an easy way to figure it out - you have to have enough dps to get through the heart phase and you have to have enough hp to survive the stomps that happen right after the heart phase. The actual numbers vary depending on your group - other dps jobs can pick up the slack and damage can be healed and/or mitigated. It's also very nice to have enough hp to survive being hit by one bomb or one plume - not strictly required, but mistakes happen and lag happens, so having a cushion really pays off (this is where ~3200 hp comes from).
As others have said a "rule of a thumb" is AK gear with at least a few DL pieces and at least Ifrit weapon. Fight can be done with lower gear, but you would be relying heavily on your teammates not messing it up - i.e. not recommended for PUG.

1) If you're with a overgeared static/fc - it doesn't matter much. If they're willing to carry you, just try to get some AK accessories at least.

2) If you're with a fc/static that's not overgeared (this is progression for you) - half darklight, half ak is fine. A primal weapon would be good but the 55 gc weapon can take you through. Try to be above 3k hp or at least very close.

3) If you're with a pug. Mostly darklight, if not all. Primal weapon. I think this is only polite when grouping with strangers, no matter how skilled you are. You are new to the fight, so you might as well be as prepared as you can be beforehand. 3-4 ak is fine, rest darklight.


I think you should decide based on the situation. Situation 2 is not very common now, which is why you get two extreme answers usually.

Personally I think if your not being carried by your friends you should be level 70 with garuda weapon and some DL at least in accessories slot. All of you saying AK gear and I55 weapons are enough are lying to yourselves cause you been doing it too long and probably have a few relics in your group. I have 4 relics and in everyone, anyone with less than a primal weapon and Some DL was being carried. my blm had all ak gear and DL cowl and i think the choker. and could barely survive tumult. I always get a garuda weapon before I take a job through titan and collecting DL is just a natural thing with speed runs going on all the time. Dont gimp yourself. I just got lucky on blm cause was in DF group with the most competent players I ever met and we kill it effortlessly with only 2 wipes. We all had good weapons and appropriate gear. I had only joined for practice as blm and ended up with a win lol.

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Originally Posted by AlternativeOne

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I don't disagree entirely, but It can be done in AK/I.lv55 Weapon, which is probably the bare minimum. For Titan the biggest thing Is dodging (and heart phase, which can be sped up by a Melee LB3)... Having better gear only decreases the room for error. However if he's doing straight Duty Finder/PUG, He'll probably want some Darklight and an Ifrit/Garuda weapon for sure. Simply because it'll make the fight easier on them.

As for the HP thing, It depends on your healer. Personally my SMN didn't have a lot of HP, but my healers new the drill and I never died from stomps I had under 3k If i recall but its been a while since i logged on so i couldn't even check :|

Either way, Playing it safe? Some Darklight/AK mix and a I.lv60-70 Weapon. Doing it with friends and you guys got a brain? AK/I.lv55 bare minimum.

You can do it with bikini and AK/DL accesorries just fine if you want. All this ppl saying you need 3k+ hp or 380+ stat dont know what that are talking. Is just a matter of can you dodge or not and healer have to be on your toes and tank have to do his part of dodging bombs too.

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Originally Posted by Sayori

Kinda depends on your job, but basically full AK gear + garuda weapon can already be enough for Titan.

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^This and make sure you are not wearing garbage accessories. Average out your iLevel to about i55-i60 is easy enough to do.

For those that don't know how to average out their iLevel. Here's some basic math:
Add all iLevels from gear together and divide the sum with the number of armors/weapon.

(iLevel sum) / 12 or 13 (depending on gear) = iLevel average.

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Originally Posted by Rosekitten

I've been trying to find further information on this for a little bit but I can't seem to find anything stating just how much hp and other stats you should have for Titan HM. I wanted to know so I know if I should waste the tomes I have now or just save up a little more and after the first Titan kill I get and get the relic I can just straight up get the plus one weapon.

Sorry if this was asked elsewhere I skimmed a few pages but I didn't see it >w<;

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It's been said before, but full AK gear with Ifrit/Garuda weapon is sufficient. 3.2k pre-food is about the minimum for HP, but no items below iLvl 60.

I've beaten Titan with 3k HP flat as Brd and Blm and 3.1k HP as whm and could most likely had managed with less; this does not change for any job except tank as they all will be taking the same amount of damage. The mages do a bit more resistance but it shouldn't change things all that much. However, I did have competent healers who were able to pre-cast heals and I was able to avoid every attack besides tamult. The only other thing you need gear-wise, is enough dps to get past heart phase.

Point is, as long as you know the fight well, have a competent group, and/or have a group with gear to make up for yours, you don't really need all that much. However, the chances of you meeting these conditions are probably not very high.