Suggestion: Myth lockout per class not per character, and Loot lockout.

Give me something to do with my alts aside from gear them in derp easy to get darklight, no one will let my alts come to coil with them turn 3 and on, on top of that im sick of seeing them in darklight and unable to progress any further due to still spending all my myth on my main, along with hoping for coil drops for my main.

I don't see how this would affect progression slow down because I assume they will lift the myth cap eventually when a new type of armor and tomes come out, and ofc I will spam every alt to i90.

Imagining this now, loot lockout of coil/ct instead of complete lock out, run coil on multiple classes, having more fun, helping out FC members with their coil loot, everyone happy, more people want to stay and play instead of complaining about being bored etc.

Please aid me with a logical reason why these two things would be a bad idea please, because if I was developing this game and someone brought this to my attention I would have this done instantly.

This game has SO MUCH potential, and it depresses me to see it wasted, I love FF and I will not be unsubscribing due to loyalty, but please, make my dreams come true.

Oh yeah ignore the thread so the devs have no idea what the community wants, when I am positive I see people complain about this ALL @#$%^&* DAY.

Level another character. Then you have two Myth caps.

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Originally Posted by Acaelus

Level another character. Then you have two Myth caps.

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Then just do away with the entire multi-class and armoury system completely.

The last few months are calling, they want their dead horses back.

Myth cap is being raised in 2.1 to 450. SE have explicitly stated they won't be changing it to a per job system. You're basically asking to be able to farm BiS gear 100% more efficiently for every job you have. It's ludicrous.

Besides, capping myth is already tedious enough without having to do it on 9 jobs, no thanks. What about the people who don't have multiple jobs, this does nothing for them, it only allows those with more playtime to extend the gap between everyone else much faster.

You know you could gear your alts decently enough if you spent myth on them and got them drops from turns 1 and 2, right? At least for a second class, which is realistically all you should need at the moment. Unless you made a stupid choice and leveled 2 melee DPS or something like that.

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Originally Posted by blowfin

The last few months are calling, they want their dead horses back.

Myth cap is being raised in 2.1 to 450. SE have explicitly stated they won't be changing it to a per job system. You're basically asking to be able to farm BiS gear 100% more efficiently for every job you have. It's ludicrous.

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How is it 'ludicrous' when you can do the exact same thing by leveling a second character? Literally the exact same thing.

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How is it 'ludicrous' when you can do the exact same thing by leveling a second character? Literally the exact same thing.

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That's a choice people make, it's not something that's forced on the entire playerbase like a change to "per job" cap.

It's also a perfectly reasonable choice if you find yourself frothing at the mouth about caps and complaining about not having enough to do.

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Originally Posted by Acaelus

Level another character. Then you have two Myth caps.

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You'd lose the benefit of sharing the philo tomes to get darklight gear by doing speed runs on a better geared character.

You can't trade items or money to yourself without moving things through another person.

You would also have to relevel multiple classes on the other character to play the class effectively.
You usually need skills from at least two other classes to play a job to it's full potential. So you're looking at leveling to at least level 30 a total of 27 times if you wanted to play every job on their own character.

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Originally Posted by blowfin

The last few months are calling, they want their dead horses back.

Myth cap is being raised in 2.1 to 450. SE have explicitly stated they won't be changing it to a per job system. You're basically asking to be able to farm BiS gear 100% more efficiently for every job you have. It's ludicrous.

Besides, capping myth is already tedious enough without having to do it on 9 jobs, no thanks. What about the people who don't have multiple jobs, this does nothing for them, it only allows those with more playtime to extend the gap between everyone else much faster.

You know you could gear your alts decently enough if you spent myth on them and got them drops from turns 1 and 2, right? At least for a second class, which is realistically all you should need at the moment. Unless you made a stupid choice and leveled 2 melee DPS or something like that.

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I roam this forum daily and never saw a confirmation about not changing it to a per job system, my apologies. And yeah sure I am asking to be able to get BiS gear for every class, wasnt that the point of the armoury and class system, to be able to change to whatever job you have put the time into? Oh yeah it is, I forgot.

You don't have to cap the myth on all 9 jobs, it's your choice on to what jobs you want to cap myth on, you are forced to do that on all 9 jobs, what an insane presumption.

My main alt is a tank class, I have stopped taking my main DPS to coil because I want i90 drops for my tank, I havent seen a drop in 3 weeks. When am I going to be able to gear my alt, oh yeah in like 5 months.

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Originally Posted by blowfin

That's a choice people make, it's not something that's forced on the entire playerbase like a change to "per job" cap.

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How is that any more or less forced? If people want to grind gear for different jobs, why can't they? If they don't want to, why can't they just.. not do it and focus only on their main job? How is it wrong for people to want to gear up multiple jobs with playstyles they like?

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You don't have to cap the myth on all 9 jobs, it's your choice on to what jobs you want to cap myth on, you are forced to do that on all 9 jobs, what an insane presumption.

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You wouldn't have to of course, but pretty quickly there would be an expectation for everyone to be geared in full iLvl 90.

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How is that any more or less forced?

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You have a choice in creating an alt, you don't have a choice to accept content patches.

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Originally Posted by Crankysorc

You'd lose the benefit of sharing the philo tomes to get darklight gear by doing speed runs on a better geared character.

You can't trade items or money to yourself without moving things through another person.

You would also have to relevel multiple classes on the other character to play the class effectively.
You usually need skills from at least two other classes to play a job to it's full potential. So you're looking at leveling to at least level 30 a total of 27 times if you wanted to play every job on their own character.

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Just play a new class, with a new character. You can effectively gear up an alt, there isn't a need to redo every other class on multiple characters. And yes you can trade to your own account, it involves having friends. Also speed runs are a joke, especially at this point. Again, having friends solves this problem. You're looking at this game like it's a life sink, it isn't.

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Originally Posted by blowfin

You wouldn't have to of course, but pretty quickly there would be an expectation for everyone to be geared in full iLvl 90.

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Ugh yeah, like how it already is, everyone expects you to have a few i90 pieces to enter coil, it doesnt change anything, it's not like your lifting the cap entirely.

I already said 'without moving things through another person'. I'm well aware friends can trade vanya. That's as far as it goes, since you can't trade the dl/allagan you already have between a shared stash. I wouldn't torture my friends by making them run WP with a fresh 50 in AF gear. I've already leveled up most classes I want to play, but can only focus on one until it's completely done or someone in my FC is done with gearing their main jobs.

It sounds like you think I want level up all 8 classes on each character, which is not what I meant at all. I meant leveling up for cross skills, as many players will not allow you to raid without them.

I don't think it's a life sink, and don't want it to be.
I'm just a little tired of playing for two hours and being done with trying to progress until the next week for all of my classes.
I was going to just use CT to catch up alts, but now I still have to decide which class gets a single piece each week. It's extremely disappointing.

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Originally Posted by Sindele

How is that any more or less forced? If people want to grind gear for different jobs, why can't they? If they don't want to, why can't they just.. not do it and focus only on their main job? How is it wrong for people to want to gear up multiple jobs with playstyles they like?

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Too many people here who never played XI, so they just don't get it.

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Originally Posted by Crankysorc

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I can't understand, for one I always have things to do because I really don't play much. I have other things that take up my time. Even if that was the case, I'd find something else to do. It really isn't a big deal, and life will go on.

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Ugh yeah, like how it already is, everyone expects you to have a few i90 pieces to enter coil, it doesnt change anything, it's not like your lifting the cap entirely.

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Actually no, it would make this thing a lot worse than they already are.

per job means you are screwed if you're FC wants you to come on a job already capped.

like people said level an alt if you want per job.

Need lockout per ROLE instead so people understand fights better

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Originally Posted by indira

per job means you are screwed if you're FC wants you to come on a job already capped.

like people said level an alt if you want per job.

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What does this even mean. do you even think bro

they should make you buy an item to enter make it a gil sink item breaks on entry.

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Originally Posted by Sylkis

Need lockout per ROLE instead so people understand fights better

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thats bad too alot of people only have one class at lv50, nice way to demotivate people from even bothering when they could just do the coil. it will screw up FC's plans.

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Originally Posted by indira

thats bad too alot of people only have one class at lv50, nice way to demotivate people from even bothering when they could just do the coil. it will screw up FC's plans.

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Pay 300 myth to unlock the other 2 roles for the week. Sounds fair?

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Originally Posted by Acaelus

I can't understand, for one I always have things to do because I really don't play much. I have other things that take up my time. Even if that was the case, I'd find something else to do. It really isn't a big deal, and life will go on.

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I don't understand why anyone would sub to a game they don't play at least a few hours a week. It's great that you don't want to play the game anywhere near it's full extent and all, but there are many players who would like to actually make use of the ability to level multiple classes on a single character.

@indira- just go on the job that's capped already, then. It'd be the same as running things now after getting your tomes.
If it becomes a frequent problem, don't run things without your FC on that job.
How would giving people a reason to run content demotivate those with only one 50 and ruin FC plans?
There's enough gil sinks as is, we don't need gil spammers shouting they'll pay for your run entry items.

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Originally Posted by Sylkis

Need lockout per ROLE instead so people understand fights better

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As someone heavily against class caps... this... isnt a half bad idea o.o