FF got games on xbox 360 why are they not. Destructing there matchmaking ?

For Duty finder? Should be fast as hell and simple options and more.
Seems like FF is just wasting are money trying to get there duty finder fixed. When they can use the xbox 360 version of it like ever single other game in the world is using that system. It works well with flaws, But CoD and hundreds of other game have improved it and was free if they created a xbox 360 games. Would save them tons money and resources to use it. Since i Assume square got the code?

Wait wait wait what? You talking about the duty finder or instance servers I don't understand what youre trying to say

/facedesk

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Let's try that again, but this time in English.

I think he's trying to tell us something...something about CoD.

Wouldn't change a thing for matchmaking since microsoft refuses to allow cross platform gameplay. So you'll just end up with a small community playing only by themselves on the 360 :P

Not sure if that's what you meant...

Maybe he's complaining about ARR not being on Xbox?

http://www.vg247.com/2013/07/09/fina...s-says-square/

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Final Fantasy 14: A Realm Reborn is heading to PS3 and PC August 27, but is notably absent on Xbox 360. Developer Square-Enix has confirmed that the game’s absence is due to Microsoft’s continued reluctance to share game servers with other platforms.

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No the duty finder system sucks. All i was saying. Sorry if confused people. If seen over the last 5 years on mmos and games in general they been using the xbox live matchmaking system from halo 2. Yet improved 10 folds.

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Originally Posted by mindful

No the duty finder system sucks. All i was saying. Sorry if confused people. If seen over the last 5 years on mmos and games in general they been using the xbox live matchmaking system from halo 2. Yet improved 10 folds.

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Oh alright! Well to each is own I guess. For me and for a lot of people the DF does it's job. Granted I don't really use it as a prefer running stuff with the locals, but for the couple times I queued up I got a group in the hour. There's always room for improvement i'll grant you that but nothing's perfect. I'm sure it'll be improved with time.

They're not really "fixing" the duty finder, rather adding more features such as the "duty roulette" so people can join any instance in certain categories. Xbox 360 version of FFXIV:ARR is not likely to come out (to my knowledge at least). PS4 version confirmed, Xbox One version possible, but not likely (again only to my knowledge, if I'm wrong feel free to tell me and show the source).

As for the rest of your post... What? CoD's multiplayer lobbies work a bit differently than the duty finder in FFXIV:ARR. Their lobby system pretty much accepts people from certain regions into the server so they can play together, FFXIV needs certain classes/jobs to fulfill the roles to complete the dungeon (tanks, damage, and healers respectively).

CoD also survives on the millions of copies it sells with each subsequent annual release, as well as releasing new map packs and other DLC for a fairly substantial amount ($10-$15 map packs, yes?). FFXIV strives on the subscription to keep a constant influx of money to the developers to maintain and steadily add new content throughout the game's lifetime (which can exceed 10 years, looking at Final Fantasy XI, Everquest, and soon World of Warcraft). There are free MMO's, but many rely on microtransactions to earn revenue. For example, they will add "vanity" items to change your character's appearance on the game's website that is only purchasable with real money. Or put an item up on the "market" that is a very rare drop in the game, but you can get it immediately for some cash. (The latter is perhaps the start of the "pay to win" system, where if you spend the money you will have the best equipment. But I assume the majority of FFXIV:ARR players most likely do not want, and I certainly do not want a pay to win system).

Until microsoft changes their stance on cross platform play, FFXIV will never be on the XBOX One. And SE isn't going to go backwards and port to the 360, it has lower specs than the PS3 and the PS3 can barely handle this game as it is.

The duty finder doesn't really suck imo. The problem with the DF isn't the DF, it's the players. If a tank isn't que for Halatali at level 20 then of course 50 people in the que for it will be waiting until 1 tank joins for each group. It's the Design of the game, the 3 role meta (healer, tank, dps), and player choices causing the Duty Finder to take so long.

And Imo, so be it. The Duty Finder is a luxury, not a necessity. If you want to run halatali or {Insert Dungeon Here} and you are a dps, find a tank on your server to que with you. Can't find one, except it and run it later.

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Originally Posted by Redbullmass

So you'll just end up with a small community playing only by themselves on the 360 :P

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Ahh man if only they could do this for the PS3/4.

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Originally Posted by Ryios

SE isn't going to go backwards and port to the 360, it has lower specs than the PS3 and the PS3 can barely handle this game as it is.

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Xbox 360 could barely even handle XI, and it was based around the PS2 ffs. Pretty sure it would just burst into flames if you tried to run XIV on it.

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Originally Posted by Reiterpallasch

Ahh man if only they could do this for the PS3/4.

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Haha why? I've seen good and bad players on ps3, but same goes with PC.

CoD matchmaking isn't trying to fill specific roles it just matches people based on rank etc. It's a lot simpler dividing 100 people into say teams of 4 random people than 100 people into teams of 1tank 1 healer 2 DPS. 100 people select a CoD map and it's easy to just divide them up and go. Not so easy for an FFXIV instance. 100 people is 25 groups but there may only be 10 tanks queued so 60 people (20 more partial groups) are waiting for a tank. What are the odds 20 straight tanks queue up? The Xbox system wouldn't change this.

Honestly I see more bad PC Players than I do PS3 players. At least PS3 has a standard controller and interface OOTB. With PC there are so many ways to configure how you play that I've seen a healer tell me....

"I use the numpad to play, my abilities are bound to ., 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and I use 0 as a modifer. I turn my camera with the mouse, and move with the arrow keys."

Meaning this healer could not navigate and cast stuff at the same time. They had to take their hand off the mouse to use abilities. Was constantly screwing up.

I've seen some HORRIBLE PC players.

But a good PC Player on a Power House of a PC is worth more than an equivalent skilled PS3 player imo, simply due to the performance gain.

Se could make the DF a lot better if they let all the 4 mans have 8 people.

E.g. they should let 1 tank, 1 healer, and 6 DPS join the group but make a global debuff on the group so that the dmg is the same with 6 dps as it would be with 2.

E.g. if you go in and get 1 tank, 1 healer, and 3 dps, then their would be a 33% reduced dmg debuff on the group, 4 DPS and it would be 50% reduced dmg, etc.

Oh, hey Armant!

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Originally Posted by Ryios

Honestly I see more bad PC Players than I do PS3 players.

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Not this old argument again. Though with a new spin for me, I didnt realize I as the PC player cannot play properly due to mouse and button issues. But seriously, not this again.

And it has been confirmed that SE will not be doing this game on Xbox for any reasons. They dont like the way Microsoft handles their shit. And neither do I. Bravo SE for taking a stand on something decent at least.

I think he's asking if anyone has really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

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Originally Posted by cotti

Oh, hey Armant!

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I see what you did there.

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Originally Posted by mindful

No the duty finder system sucks. All i was saying. Sorry if confused people. If seen over the last 5 years on mmos and games in general they been using the xbox live matchmaking system from halo 2. Yet improved 10 folds.

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Please list the persistent world MMORPG's (Not MMOBA's) that you've played using xbox live to build groups.

well, I wouldn't mind if they randomly threw 4 (or 8) people in a group finder group and give them a boost depending on the group make-up, actually. SWTOR is doing that for the last two flashpoint that were introduced, for the story mode anyway. basically there's healing spots (nothing else is really needed)
ARR could do something like that, maybe automatically give people a buff or have specific spots people can run through to get healed or get extra defense or more dmg output or anything, really.

but to be fair, I'd also rather they would do one thing at a time before they change the entire system. it would already help if at least the freaking timer would stop ticking when you're waiting for people or allowing you to leave the instance and invite someone to your group without losing progress (or - silly concept - invite people right into the instance!)

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Originally Posted by Lithera

CoD matchmaking isn't trying to fill specific roles it just matches people based on rank etc. It's a lot simpler dividing 100 people into say teams of 4 random people than 100 people into teams of 1tank 1 healer 2 DPS. 100 people select a CoD map and it's easy to just divide them up and go. Not so easy for an FFXIV instance. 100 people is 25 groups but there may only be 10 tanks queued so 60 people (20 more partial groups) are waiting for a tank. What are the odds 20 straight tanks queue up? The Xbox system wouldn't change this.

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No, it wouldn't, but another MMO that handles this pretty well is Rift. The dungeon finder there has checkboxes for what roles (tank/heal/dps) you are willing to queue for, and when the queue pops it tells you which one you're expected to go as. In this game it would work even better than it does there, because of the way it already checks to see if you're on an appropriate job spec before you are allowed to accept the popup, and you can't switch jobs in dungeons.