How bad was your first WP run?

Just hit 50 with PLD last night, and wanted to run WP as a test to see how bad I will be.

I had 3 DL accessories, AF1 gear, i55 weap, and i49(i think) GC shield.

Ran with +1 blm, relic whm, and mnk (dont remember his gear). Lets just say i had a hell of time keeping aggro.

Final result was 32min run with 2 wipes.
First wipe was right before the 2nd boss, i ran to unlock the door to second boss and other party member got aggro'd by big tonberry. While it's not directly my fault, i feel like i made run for it in the wrong time.

Second wipe was at the final boss. I had adds on me and the boss hit me with 3 stacks and i died.

Just wanted to know how badly you guys did in your first WP run :p

My first WP run, PLD was my first tanking class, really wasn't that bad. But this was also months ago and relics were very few and far between. I was fortunate enough to get ifrit's blade on my 3rd kill and so back at that time my threat gen was more than it needed to be in both WP and AK. Back then no one speed ran or aoe'd anything.

First WP run was pre-nerf.
Blob was much harder, you'd be surprise at how many groups couldn't get past the blob.

Ran WP plenty of times before people cared about the myth, just for fun since the Tonberry Stalkers made the dungeon exciting when you couldn't chain pull significantly. First run went smoothly til the pudding boss, which we wiped on a bunch of times before giving up and restarting. Pretty sure that boss causes anyone unfamiliar with the dungeon trouble to be fair. It was really great seeing the Tonberry King for the first time, though. It was a bad disappointing when he was way easier than the pudding boss, but it was probably my favorite dungeon until I had to start speed running it. No more fearing that the Stalker would catch up and stab us all. ; _ ;

wiped before 2nd pull , didn't realise that big thing was unkillable .

got told by a DPS to get out of dungeon because my gear wasn't good enough . Came back in full DL with Relic and wtfpwned it .

However I now tell DPS to gtfo of dungeon if they are under geared .. what comes around goes around .

the first one wasn't bad. I got lucky and got a good group, now the second one omg didn't even finish that one XD

For a long time I didn't touch WP and went straight to AK SR pre Nerf. However when I finally did do WP just to see it (pre tome additions) it wasn't so bad, but I went with people that had run the dungeon so many times for relic building items that they coached me through it.

Fresh 50, no dl items, level 55 sword, ran with ls peeps who'd been at it for months already, boy I never spammed flash so much in my life, or provoke lol. It was a pretty wild run, but they showed me everything I needed to know, so outside of time, want that bad.

Very next day, ran together again and breezed through it like a champ. Still had no new gear at the time. They going to show me the SR later, so I'm looking forward to that for when I do pugs.

Healed it as a SCH, no wipes no dead ppl - so, fine :P

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Originally Posted by CyanDvai

First WP run was pre-nerf.
Blob was much harder, you'd be surprise at how many groups couldn't get past the blob.

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My first run failed here, badly, to the point that we ended up throwing in the towel on him and trying again later. Also was way back, before everyone had relics/+1 and i90 gear to run with. We were mostly geared in AF/GC stuff, I had some items from 1.0 AV/CC runs on me and ifrit's blade, but damned if it wasn't hard lol

Oh and we had no idea what to expect as it was literally all of our first run and not one of us looked for a guide/video because we enjoy the feeling of "new" stuff, figuring it out ourselves, and we typically don't mind dying.

Of course now it's a whole new story since all anyone wants is SR and full DL/relic or better, it's really not the same ; ;

Thirtyish minutes is not so bad for a regular run. A hint for the final boss, save your GCD defence buffs for when he does "everybody's grudge". The move is telegraphed by the announcement "X Enemies Appear". When you see that, put up your buff. You can use Rampart or Foresight for 2 or 3 stacks and Sentinel or Hallowed ground if the stacks get bigger or at the end when a party will sometimes ignore the adds completely to push the final zerg.

Did this early on in the game shortly after hitting 50. I went with an FC group and we didn't really have any problems on the first two bosses, but managing the last boss was challenging. Back then we didn't have the DPS to deal with the little Tonberries fast enough so we found a video on Youtube of someone kiting the king while DPS just focuses on him. After the Stalkers came out we did a BLM LB2 on all the Tonberries while PLD hit Hallowed Ground. The rest was history after that.

My first run I got to do with all FC players and it was quite enjoyable...I could not figure out where the end boss buff stacks were visable...DERP...I play Bard and was in charge of the adds and it was very stressful that first run but I think we wiped on the end boss like two or three times and then we got it no problem. Now the fun new thing is seeing the interesting new ways that people find to do the dungeons and handle the bosses. I still love that first boss of WP...he is so lame and easy it is just too funny...I guess he is a nice "Warm Up" for the fingers.

My first run with Ak/Wp as tank was somehow nerve wrecking, but people from my LS made it easier for me. My regular run for wp is about 25-30 mins, semi speed run is about 20-25. full speed run record was 15.

My first run as a tank was just as boring as the runs for the other jobs I leveled. However, I didn't realize how bad the "out of range" bug was or how things could still hit me while being out of my range until I started tanking. Got lots of compliments from random puggers primarily because I usually heal and have learned what not to do while tanking. Beyond the "out of range" frustrations, the first run (or first 10 on tank) were relatively boring as WP is.

My first run was a group in GC/Darklight weapons and AF gear. We worked to win and it was very satisfying. I believe we had to kill four waves off adds on pudding and a pro blm was careful with my 4300 hp on Tonberry.

That place was more fun pre-nerf.

I made so much gil off that place. Most groups, then, didn't care about chests, especially the chest in the square so I'd wait til everyone left after TK and go tag.

My power supply fried minutes before the servers came back on after myth change, so it was a few weeks before I got to see this but the stuff I was selling for 10k-45k was 29-100 gil when I got back. lolundercutters

Not a WP run... but I did make the egregious mistake of deciding to DF an AK this morning. I bailed after we failed to kill the first boss because 2 minarets were up continuously, they simply couldn't kill them. I, relic/DL/allagan warrior, somehow managed to parse above our BRD at my low 117dps to his 109dps. Our BLM came in at 133. We eventually died to massive obliterate spam and the healer eating a rockslide. Good times had by all!

For someone who has been running these for months... hitting a new low was fun.

I don't think we even cleared it the first time I tried it. This was before they made any changes to it though and it was harder even with the sac pulls and sneaking behind the little tonberries at the door.

I was fine, healer kept on getting killed on 2nd boss when got chased.

Man... my first WP run was after they made it worthwhile to attempt. I told them i haven't done WP before and that i could use some pointers.

2 of them said it was cool and they'd explain it to me.

I had relic and the DD were gimpy and was trying to make it seem like i should know it because i have a relic. After telling them it's my first run AGAIN before the first pull and to let me know before or on the fly, they remain silent and the moment the big tonberry comes my way (i then realize i couldn't target it) they do more bitching and don't explain it and complain that i suck for not knowing it's untargetable. So once i go back to the entrance they bitch that they died and i left.

2 weeks later i do the run with some amazing players from my LS and when i go into DF again they cry and moan that i'm going too fast but thanks to my first shite WP party i ignore it all, gather as much as i can, and talk smack to dps who dare open their mouths lol.

/douche

My first run was a few months ago with two dps friends (pretty much all in quest AF). Went in blind. Thing that stands out most if that we tried to prioritize adds on the slime boss based on the debuff they did instead of just mindlessly aoeing them all down. Yay for being punished for trying to have intelligent target selection.

the pudding killed us over and over again.

My first run was a bit of a challenge I ran it with ilvl 50 bard gear and a GC weapon. We wiped once on the pudding boss, then once on the king. I just used DF for that run and it really was a decent party.

My first run of WP was before the changes... and it was a cake walk (and profitable!). We went through, killed everything, looted every chest and basically face rolled it with nothing other than ilv 50~55 equipment.
After the changes, the more you try to hurry the more chances there are you'll screw something up. Although with some people they just never seem to be aware of their surroundings and NEVER LEARNED how to dodge things, so if you aren't speeding you have to warn them when there's something behind them.

My first run was just about pre-nerf, was in full AF, the GC i55 weapon and a level 44-ish GC shield.
We got through most of the dungeon ok, apart from a few wipes to Stalkers... but they made me kite everything in the last boss room.
And I mean everything.

I was running around trying to kite the Boss, the Stalkers and all the Tonberries in huge big circles (shield-lobbing each of the stalkers) whilst the ranged DPS just targetted the boss and the poor melee DPS was more or less chasing us all like a headless chicken. It took 4 attempts, but we killed it eventually.

Much Much Much Much Much easier these days, purely because I know all the Tonberry Stalker spawns and the Paths they take.
The last boss is a joke as long as you just tank him in the middle, save your cooldowns (even Stoneskin) for Grudge and have at least one ranged DPS (a White Mage counts) :D

My very first time there was as a BM. I was with a full FC group who had done it before, so it was smooth and flawless.

The first time I tanked WP, now that's a completely different story... Again, I had a full FC group, this time with DDs that I had never played before and both had relic +1 weapons and pretty overleveled gear compared to my fresh 50 paladin. Safe to say, the aggro was everywhere but on me. I didn't know the way tonberries move, how many groups it's safe to pull etc., so we wiped quite many times on trash. Bosses went easy enough, even managed to keep aggro. But the moment a tonberry stalker appeared behind me, I knew it was game over and try to pull another tissue from the tissue box. :''')

I was pretty upset after that run, but after doing WP 10+ times on my scholar, I started to see how other tanks do it and felt confident enough to go again on my paladin with my WM buddy. Went much better and after that even better and now it's pretty simple, as long as I don't fool around with tab target. n_n

Never had a problem with WP on my other classes, though my tank isn't quite high enough to run it yet.

Last night I had an abysmal Chimera run though. I left a really good FATE party in Coerthas because people had been shouting for one DPS for a Chim. run for like a half hour and I decided to be a boyscout. Went and joined them with my relic SMN.

It went very poorly. The tank was a PLD wearing full AF, NQ AH gear, and an NQ Goblin Longsword. I'm not a gearwhore, but my lord. He couldn't hold hate, he died at around 50% 8 or 9 times. What the heck was he even going for a relic for? Was he going to run Coil in AF with a Curtana? Chimera's not a hard fight, but the tank has to have some defense and more than 3800HP.

did my first WP a few weeks before 2.05 hit...lets just say it didn't go well

for one we didn't clear it. the entire team consisted of first timers, so we only knew the mechanics from websites.

dps didn't know how to effectively kill the tonberries during boss, so i died a lot.

I swore I would never do it again after my 1st run, and now I'm still running 10 times per day.

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Originally Posted by Grailer

wiped before 2nd pull , didn't realise that big thing was unkillable .

got told by a DPS to get out of dungeon because my gear wasn't good enough . Came back in full DL with Relic and wtfpwned it .

However I now tell DPS to gtfo of dungeon if they are under geared .. what comes around goes around .

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I prefer to look at it as "two wrongs don't make a right."

My first WP run was a ton of fun! It was pre nerf, and we had several wipes as we were all there for the first time. But It was a really fun group, nobody raged and we all thought the mechanics were quite interesting.

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Originally Posted by Odd

I prefer to look at it as "two wrongs don't make a right."

My first WP run was a ton of fun! It was pre nerf, and we had several wipes as we were all there for the first time. But It was a really fun group, nobody raged and we all thought the mechanics were quite interesting.

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When did WP get nerfed, and what was changed?

I haven't run WP as a tank.. can't stand it. I run AK as my PLD and WP as my BLM.

first time was horrible experience for me since I only had done FATEs so far, had no overwhelm, flash or voke macro ready and took me ages to find out how to set them up. the healer was my friend so he talk me thought via skype but still, was very very hard. I did great with bosses but handling many mobs at same time as WAR was disturbing to say the least.

I enter for first time, just when I hit lvl50, was a dam race, I was most a viewer than a tank, I was in a jp party with relics +1, full dark light set and a couple of pieces of Myth gear, they just “fly” trough the dungeon, the dragoon just go directly to the door, agro all in his way ,and then bam - bam - bam, the healer, Bard and dragoon kill all in just a few seconds, the boss go down as fast as the trash mobs, the same in all the next parts, (I think they want to make a world record), the whole run take only nine fuk@# minute’s ! :eek: , I was all time lost during the run since was mi first time and I just have AF gear and the GC Axe, I have to admit than I never see some one kill so fast the Tomberry king :eek: (the second boss not even spam the second group of mobs).

BLM lagged really bad. Ended up doing the entire dungeon in a 3-man group. It took over an hour

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Originally Posted by Darksword

When did WP get nerfed, and what was changed?

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-%28Sep.-27%29

Post #5.

I only ran it once before the change, so I don't remember all the specifics. But you didn't need oils to open doors, and the second boss was a lot harder. Or maybe we were just under geared. But I think I had my BRD relic by then so that shouldn't be the case.