Scholar Silencing ADS

So we're a fairly casual group just starting on Turn 2, but had some good attempts of it on Sunday, with 2 bards we had no worries of Voltage, the odd miss, but nothing that killed us. However when one of our tanks had to leave, one of our bards went paladin, and our monk is just incompetent at silencing voltage. (I understand there's some stance dancing he hast to do to get there, but I've heard good ones can solo silence this boss).

So things ended poorly with our paladin constantly stuck in animation lock during his turn to silence (we have a warrior and paladin tank) and voltages would start going off, paralyzing people into beams and all hell breaks loose from there. Said paladin, runs an AK later that week and runs into a scholar silencing on command (including party tell macro) So now he has in his head that my scholar healing buddy could and should help silence voltage. I'm under the impression this will end horribly.

So my Questions:
Have any of you scholars successfully used selene to silence voltage?
What sort of witch craft was this scholar using to seemingly macro selene's silence? ( My assumption is either hitting two button or hitting a key macro)
Would you even consider trying it? Seeing as our tanks seem to melt as soon as firestorm starts...

Thanks, I spend about 75% of my time on WHM so I have no practice silencing with selene.

just pull over silence under pet commands on your bar, thats one way. the problem is you have to keep selene at steady too I think or she will use it herself.

Don't do that.

Far easier to stun with a PLD and a BRD if the monk sucks.

Again. Don't rely on Selene.

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Originally Posted by GinTama

just pull over silence under pet commands on your bar, thats one way. the problem is you have to keep selene at steady too I think or she will use it herself.

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You would have to have her set to Obey; If you set her to Steady, she will go into Guard as soon as you command her to do something.

Still no one knows the witchcraft that scholar may of used, I was hoping for a ninja fix for scholar macros, I'm aware of pulling the commands to the bar and setting to obey, since that's how I handle Garuda. Our scholar has been using Eos on Turn 1 and 2 so far for the pure healing increases as our tanks are taking crazy damage compared to what we're used to.

Was laughable when our tank got 3 shot the first time we pulled mr. snakey boss. *smack* *smack* *dead*

Witchcraft, indeed, as there is no way to macro pet abilities within the game as it currently stands. That is to change with patch 2.1.

pld is making excuses, this can easily be done with

pld/pld

pld/brd

It is possible to do the silence on a scholar, BUT!
- Selene's silence is on a 40sec cooldown and not 30 sec so you can't join the rotation properly at best be a backup.
- Scholar has a much more important task than focusing on silence which is healing the tank/party
(switching targets back n forth in time and forcing the fairy to do it in time if she was already casting embrace can cause problems too)

So simply put.
No.
Silence is not part of the SCH tasks in the current state of SCH.

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Originally Posted by Nailkita

So we're a fairly casual group just starting on Turn 2

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This is mostly the problem. You're still inexperienced with turn 2 and ADS does high voltage on a non-regular frequency. Monk's silence is not reliable for this as he needs to have opo-opo form active to silence, which only lasts 10 seconds. This can also mean lower dps from him and he might not be able to handle it when he has to dodge laser and pacman (baltast). Scholar silence is on a 40s CD while BRD and PLD are on 30s CD so you might want to use it as a back-up but not as a rotation. It will end horribly indeed. The PLD is just not doing his share of the fight. The SCH in this story probably has a Selene Silent Dusk (?) on a button and hit a macro to announce when she's silencing in party chat instead of having them both in a macro as there is currently no way to use pet's ability in a macro. Firestorm is really easy to dodge. Just have to run between the cross-line aoe to the closest exit. ADS also have HUGE hitbox so you have plenty of time to get right back on him. The only case I can see PLD not being able to silent is if ADS use firestorm into a repelling cannon into a high voltage but I doubt it ever does that.

I tried to use Selene during Chimera cause our idiot paladins weren't silencing but it totally didn't work and I ended up not doing what I should really be doing - healing.
Silencing is not our job, its the job of bards & paladins (and monks I think?) so don't worry about doing that. At least not until they can get pet macros working so you can macro "obey" after each pet command automatically.

I wish my fairy wasn't retarded so I could actually use her to silence.

Given how much Selene needs to be (ab)used for regular healing, it's not healthy having her as part of an official silence rotation, especially since you're not going to be able to stop her from triggering her GCDs.

Although if she's on Guard, she tags a surprising number of them on her own, if she isn't accidentally using it on Repelling Cannons.

1. Have the Warrior be the first tank on ADS.
2. Paladin sits there looking pretty until the first High Voltage. He should silence it, and taunt immediately afterward.
3. Bard gets every even-numbered High Voltage from this point on, and the Warrior taunts as soon as his debuffs drop off.

Do this, and every High Voltage the Paladin needs to silence will occur while he isn't actively tanking, and therefore he should never be animation locked. High Voltage will occur roughly 5 seconds before his stacks of the debuff drop off and it's time to provoke ADS.

Selene is a serviceable backup, but I wouldn't rely on her for this personally.

it's not as hard as people are making it out to be. it's even easier if you heal via mouseover or TT because you can keep the boss targeted. the main thing to account for is that there is a delay on the silence so you have to cast it pretty much immediately after the boss' cast bar starts filling. and yes, you will have to keep selene on steady until you use the silence, and then re-steady at some point before her silence is off cooldown. it's even easier than it used to be now that you can issue pet commands while casting your own skills. lastly as someone else mentioned remember that her silence is on a 40 sec CD so it's best for you to be a backup rather than a main silencer

I had to do this in a pug I was in. Not because it was my job, but because the paladin was so bad that he couldn't understand that Stunning does not interrupt.

It wasn't that difficult, just keep her on Obey so she doesn't automatically use it (which you should be doing anyways when fighting ADS with Selene so you don't put silence on DRs). You'll be able to interrupt every second High Voltage. I find it helps to keep ADS on focus so you can see when it's casting so you can quickly switch to it and hit your interrupt key.

I tried this on my sch. For some reason Obey command does not work. She randomly pulls out her silence even in those stances unfortunately. I am going to try and keep at it maybe its possible. Since my team farms t1-t5 pretty fast weekly its okay to spend sometime on t2 and mess around with different tactics.

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Originally Posted by AunaYuuki

I tried this on my sch. For some reason Obey command does not work. She randomly pulls out her silence even in those stances unfortunately. I am going to try and keep at it maybe its possible. Since my team farms t1-t5 pretty fast weekly its okay to spend sometime on t2 and mess around with different tactics.

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Did you ever have to resummon her? If you tell her to Obey then don't tell her to Heel, she's stay put which means she'll disappear if you wander too far. However, telling her to Heel or Placing her won't overwrite the Obey's functionality once it's been set. I've never had her auto-cast anything except Embrace by doing this (Eos will still use Whispering Dawn however).