Immersion/Worldbuilding.

I posted this in another thread but felt it was worth discussing a little:

I like all the little trinkets and crap SE gives us with the bardings and mounts.

I think the mounts for the most part make sense. Maybe not the Eye, I thought Eye's were sentient, intelligent creatures and having one as a pony seems slightly out of place.

I like minions that are various critters and constructs (airship/mammet) but when the minion is a mini person like the fighter and such, or a mini famous person, it kinda breaks the immersion of the game.

Final Fantasy games are about creating worlds, and stories.

Now we have to be super serious and save Eorzea from the Garleans.. .with mini Raubahn by my side...

It would be like watching The Godfather and in some deep dramatic scene Tom Green walks in and starts humping a sea turtle.

The pointer minion I thought was kinda funny and dismissed it, but I think some of these other minions take away from the world they are trying to create.

then don't summon it.

Tonight on 'The Walking Dead' Daryl and the Governer go to Disney Land and meet Micky Mouse.

-Then dont watch it.

The Hobbit, desolation of Smaug.. Bilbo and friends get in their brand new Ford Raptor and drive the rest of the way, saving loads of time and keeping them perfectly safe due to all these safety features!!

-Then dont watch it

The Avengers are back, and just as they save the day, Keanu Reeves tells them this is all the matrix.

-Then dont watch it

Mass Effect 4, none of those crap endings even really happend, the reavers were actually defeated by Donkey Kong and Mario!

-Then dont play it.

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When companies spend good money to establish a living world for their IP, and then do something way out of left field like this it seems out of place whether I use the content or not.

Immersion/Worldbuilding went out the window with the Derpy Finder.

I'm not saying 1.0s system was perfect, farming Inferno Tapers was fairly annoying for the sheer simplicity of the task, but it was worlds better than the Lord of the Inferno being quite literally a stones throw away at any given moment... I have a harder time finding my keys than I do reaching the Bowl of Embers, which is supposedly a sacred area for the Amalj'aa. How are they a real threat to Ul'dah when literally anyone can teleport right into the middle of their territory for a surprise attack?

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Originally Posted by Sotek

Immersion/Worldbuilding went out the window with the Derpy Finder.

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That went out the window when 1.0 was shut down.

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Originally Posted by Sotek

Immersion/Worldbuilding went out the window with the Derpy Finder.

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Immersion/worldbuilding went out the window when the started building zones so small that a game released in 2002 would have been ashamed to launch with them.

It's mainly because they are separating this game from Final Fantasy we know and love and catering to the masses

Sort of said this before, but sadly this is probably what Yoshi-P meant with the MMO = Theme Park thing.

You gotta have everything close and everything conveniently handed to you for maximum fun. People gotta be able to walk to the Winter Wonderland from the Jungle Waterslide in less than two minutes or the kids will get weary legs. Immersion gets thrown to the trash. Too much of a hassle. Your monthly fee is now basically a wrist band to a theme park rather than a permission to be part of a virtual world.

I kind of like cute things in games... But maybe it is too much so I agree...

YoshiP said they're trying to keep the immersion and world lore... But with minions they're going all out fan service lol... *Still waiting for the sailor male outfits and maid outfits for female loooooooooool*

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Originally Posted by Kazamoto

I posted this in another thread but felt it was worth discussing a little:

I like all the little trinkets and crap SE gives us with the bardings and mounts.

I think the mounts for the most part make sense. Maybe not the Eye, I thought Eye's were sentient, intelligent creatures and having one as a pony seems slightly out of place.

I like minions that are various critters and constructs (airship/mammet) but when the minion is a mini person like the fighter and such, or a mini famous person, it kinda breaks the immersion of the game.

Final Fantasy games are about creating worlds, and stories.

Now we have to be super serious and save Eorzea from the Garleans.. .with mini Raubahn by my side...

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Some minions are toys made by a toy-maker, in the real world there are toys based on US Presidents so why not Eorzean leaders?

The mini persons are just very advanced automatons, which is very much possible, considering they've also been able to lock up Bahamut in a giant dungeon in outer space and whatnot ...

Besides, all the silly names people are running around with are more annoying than any minion could ever be.. Unless they somehow team up with Blizzard and add a murloc minion . . o.O

There's a helpful hint in the game's title that shows just how well the minions fit into the game's setting - it's fantasy in the truest meaning of the word. It doesn't have to be realistic, as it's not trying to be.

You're in a world which has a nation ruled by aetheric fairy like beings, where a giant dragon was encased in a moon for a thousand years, that has all manner of bizarre animal and plant life regardless of exactly how logical such beings would fit in an actual real world ecosystem. Having all manner of weird objects as pets easily fits into that. It's fantasy, deal with it.

My only real complaint is the lack of transitions b/w zones. Its like teleporting from one region to another.

This just might be your first final fantasy game... but...

Lord Of the Rings is a fantasy story.

If all of a sudden Jedi were running around light-sabering orc's and Gundams destroyed Sauron's tower, it would not fit into the established world.

Good story writing involves creating a world, with its rule sets, and then giving life to it.

When suddenly you introduce elements from outside the established norm, it breaks the suspension of disbelief.

The tone from ARR is somber and dramatic, so to go so far out of line with fan service is as bad as breaking the 4th wall in a serious piece.

The (poor) justification is they're mammets dressed up as FF1 characters and GC leaders. Please look forward to Cloud-kun and Sephi-sama minions in the future and don't forget to preorder Cloud's Magitek Bike only $14.99 in the Mog Shop coming soon.

Your concerns would make sense if this was FFXI, where the developers tried to portray Vana as a living world. Eoerza is giant theme park, may as well go full theme park.