Main story dungeons- solo modes

Greetings. In different MMORPG main story dungeons have, with party mode, solo mode to complete dungeon and go forth to next story quest. So, two dungeons modes- party and solo for completing main story quests. Has SE any plans to make such mode in FF 14 for story dungeons from @Sastasha@ till @Proetorium@? Thank you

Probably not because this is a MMORPG. If you want to play a solo Final Fantasy game there are a lot of great ones to choose from!

I would actually like an option to go through a dungeon solo as a challenge. Maybe something you could so weekly. All the NPCs credit you with surviving them on your own as if the other players weren't there anyway.

I doubt it's going to happen, but would love to see it. Perhaps you get an allowance every week to challenge a few dungeons in solo hard mode without a level cap.

Nope. All it does is promoting people to overgear the contents then run solo dungeon for the same rewards as finding people to play with. This ends up killing the community.

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Originally Posted by Lemon8or

Nope. All it does is promoting people to overgear the contents then run solo dungeon for the same rewards as finding people to play with. This ends up killing the community.

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No no. Solo mode will give less reward, because less danger

Usually solo mode is reserved for when you can play the dungeon through because you outgear and outlevel it. Not that the content is reduced so you can do solo play 1-50

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Originally Posted by Onyxys

No no. Solo mode will give less reward, because less danger

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So you want them to spend time trying balance every single dungeon over again just because some people want to be anti social? Sounds like a great idea, why work on new things when they could work on the old and bleed even more because that minority just has to be able to solo dungeons meant for a group.

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Originally Posted by Pellegri

So you want them to spend time trying balance every single dungeon over again just because some people want to be anti social? Sounds like a great idea, why work on new things when they could work on the old and bleed even more because that minority just has to be able to solo dungeons meant for a group.

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don't even have to balance it that much, sync it based on the level of the dungeon (for instance, satasha would sync from 25, any duneons over cutters cry wouldn't sync.) and buff all of the enemies up to the original sync level of the dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Pellegri

So you want them to spend time trying balance every single dungeon over again just because some people want to be anti social? Sounds like a great idea, why work on new things when they could work on the old and bleed even more because that minority just has to be able to solo dungeons meant for a group.

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As I know there are many different teams in SE working on different parts of the content of this game. Why not to make one more team for designing solo modes?

Because this is a MMORPG? Meaning play ff 1-13 nix 11 they have nothing but solo dung. its this amazing concept called an RPG revolutionary this day in age I know. If you want solo modes play a solo game, one of the Key problems with 11 is it has become, if i can't solo this it's not worth it game. Hince they are trying to remove/prevent the negative attitude. Solo dung. would require a lot of work, their is no way a lvl 31 whm could take out a lvl 28 dung. even with sleep a blm cant handle 4 mobs at once. The fact that you think it would be simple shows your lack of knowledge on level design, game design, and coding. The dung. would have to be completely reworked so mobs don't link or new groupings of mobs created based off the job you enter the dung. as. which would be a waste of time/money esp. considering they are behind still. While sitting in 50min ques to move forward with the story sucks but ff11 made you wait whole weeks to progress in the story, i'm fine with a hour.

Despite what a lot of people are saying in here, the game forces you to do several battles/quests solo and break party. While other times it forces you to party, which is strange to me. Would be nice to at least have an option for a party and scale up the difficulty of the quest.

We have to keep in mind some of the things that have happened in the past with other MMOs that have allowed soloable dungeons.

For example: World of warcraft, Rogues stealth running for chests. Things like this start occurring if we allow dungeons to be soloable.

I do understand the uniqueness in trying to solo content but at the same time, we face the fact that content can be exploited without anyone seeing it. In ff14 ARR we do have chests that drop items and gil, meaning, it technically could be exploited to some degree.

However, regarding the story progression part. I feel it needs to be adjusted a bit. We have to depend too much on the party in order for the story to be completed. Some MMO team-play is good but lets not make it where 1 person could cause a numerous amount of issues.

Lets do something I would called story-mode. In story mode, the penalty for poor mechanic execution is reduced, drops do not exist except for story/quest drops and additional players can only be beneficial versus possibly being the burden. We allow people the option to solo story mode but give them the choice to bring in party members as well. Soloing will take 30-40 minutes while adding members will make it far far less. We still promote MMO gameplay, teach mechanics and at the same time we solve the issue with lack of people doing the dungeon or queuing with players who end up being harder to deal with then the dungeon itself.

This is a MMO, not an offline console game. Square wants to promote team play, the feeling when you and others accomplish things together. If they want to make an off-line solo game, they may have to come out with something like Final Fantasy XIV-2... ugh.

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Originally Posted by Naberrie

I would actually like an option to go through a dungeon solo as a challenge. Maybe something you could so weekly. All the NPCs credit you with surviving them on your own as if the other players weren't there anyway.

I doubt it's going to happen, but would love to see it. Perhaps you get an allowance every week to challenge a few dungeons in solo hard mode without a level cap.

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I really like this idea, except that it would be very difficult to balance it in such a way that it would be accessible to all jobs/classes.

And in order to balance against the obvious problem of it doing harm to the economy, it could be a challenge feature with unique, probably purely aesthetic rewards, similar to WoW's epic transmog rewards for golding the challenge mode dungeons.

Please don't do solo mode... They did that with the lotro story quests and it turned into you never ever grouping them. The biggest attractor for me to a Final Fantasy online style mmo was the fact they have historically been very group oriented. FFXI was that way originally (no clue about how it currently is) and I love that for the most part FFXIV is very very group oriented. There are plenty of MMO's out there that cater to solo players heavily even to the extent of limiting group content. Please if you are attracted to mostly solo content enjoy one of them so those of us that love group content at least have one modern mmo that is group oriented. its been a long time since a game with this much group focus has been released...

yes FF is about team play, they always encourage players to work together and discourage the shouts that say "experience required". They want people to pass on the knowledge.This is FF not every mmo out there. While it is a MMO and they should be paying attention to others, they are trying to create their own mmo not another mmo. They have to say this is us take it or leave it. Otherwise they offer the same product as everyone else, and if your not special why play you? They have said before if you want solo play this isn't the game for you and I love that. it is still FF which is a team based game if you dont want to be a team player, why play? Yes I came across +1 tanks who would say my dps isn't fast enough but they couldn't keep hate off me going slow. I have also come across avg i53 tank who would do pulls I didn't think they could handle and keep hate on all mobs.

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Originally Posted by Urielparadox

Because this is a MMORPG? Meaning play ff 1-13 nix 11 they have nothing but solo dung. its this amazing concept called an RPG revolutionary this day in age I know. If you want solo modes play a solo game, one of the Key problems with 11 is it has become, if i can't solo this it's not worth it game. Hince they are trying to remove/prevent the negative attitude. Solo dung. would require a lot of work, their is no way a lvl 31 whm could take out a lvl 28 dung. even with sleep a blm cant handle 4 mobs at once. The fact that you think it would be simple shows your lack of knowledge on level design, game design, and coding. The dung. would have to be completely reworked so mobs don't link or new groupings of mobs created based off the job you enter the dung. as. which would be a waste of time/money esp. considering they are behind still. While sitting in 50min ques to move forward with the story sucks but ff11 made you wait whole weeks to progress in the story, i'm fine with a hour.

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It would be reasonalby simple to re-balance ALL the dungeons for a 'solo' or 'duo' mode. Just flag the mobs as 'open world' monsters instead of 'dungeon' monsters. The monster levels would be the same, but their HP and damage output would be similar to their counterparts found 'outside'

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Originally Posted by DMCain

It would be reasonalby simple to re-balance ALL the dungeons for a 'solo' or 'duo' mode. Just flag the mobs as 'open world' monsters instead of 'dungeon' monsters. The monster levels would be the same, but their HP and damage output would be similar to their counterparts found 'outside'

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GReat idea and very simple to make

I see both sides of the argument. As a soloer I don't want to have dungeons restyled to cater for me, but by the same token I don't want to hang around for hours waiting on the Duty Finder so I can unlock a core game feature like the retainers.

Keep the dungeons for those who want to group, that's fine by me, but take the unlocking of core game features out of those dungeons, that's all I would ask.

i will never understand pepeol who wants to play MMO solo? really.....i will never understand.

That's probably because you can't distinguish between people playing a MMO with other people, and people grouping for combat. The former isn't dependent on the latter, but you don't see that.

What? Sorry Im perplexed by this idea....I want to play a completely soloable MMO, yeah, huh......pretty sure they don't have those plans hoping they don't anyways.

I for one wouldn't be able to stomach it, I already find it way to solo friendly in the overland, I mean, hey why not just add an Iwin button and let us solo bahamut...if you can't make friends to play with, then play a solo game, the major reason people play these games is not to solo...its to play with others, so I just don't understand the idea at all. for what reason would a person play an MMO if they didn't want to need others? Isn't that like SUPER BORING?

You will be able to solo a dungeon, or at least enter with a chocobo as time goes on and newer dungeons are released. Then instead of having to rescale the mobs, you will get a buff through the Echo. So there won't be a seperate mode, but you'll be able to enter solo eventually. This way, people that enter the game later will be able to still do the story stuff long after everyone else cleared it.

There are other ways to be social than merely grouping for combat purposes. When I join a FC/LS and participate in chat, I'm being social. When I answer "How do I...?" questions in /shout or /yell or join in the good-natured banter there, I'm being social. When I take the better part of an evening's play-session to help a new person figure out how to work gearsets or run halfway across a zone to raise/rez someone, I'm being social.

And, for heaven's sake, when I participate in a RP scene (you know, emphasizing the RP part of mmoRPg), I'm being social.

Frankly, with how fast people rushrushrush through dungeons with very little, if any, chat at all, grouping in FFXIV is about as un-social as it gets.

I would welcome solo dungeons and the opportunity to complete story-mode dungeons on my own because I'm social in many more ways than merely grouping for combat.

As another idea of making solo modes- to give NPC-helpers to come with player. In different dungeons and depending on class these helpers can be different. For example, if you are tank- helpers will be healer and of just DD or just healer. Do you remember main story quests, when NPCs with green names attack enemies and healing you? Whey are pretty smart to help the player to clean all mob packs step by step

BUt the main problem is dungeons, where you need cooperation. Maybe for solo modes completing route of these dungeons will be changed a little

As other have already said, this idea is cancer to MMO's.