Wanderer's Palace- tires of stupidity

Greetings. Sorry, but Im out of my patient because of stupid tanks in WP
Why you, tanks, grabing 1st boss to corner? You crossed the line, you stand and just hold boss. WHY you run with boss across whole location? What is the purpose- AoEs are easy to avoid. What the idea?

Pretty sure it makes his cone attack easier to avoid, not sure why it bothers you tbh.

Or he dosnt even bother casting it if he would have targeted someone out of range.

Why easy? Cone attack cover almost whole location, if boss turn around. Doesnt matter where boss is standing. If I saw just one tank with such movement, but EVERY tank- it is out of my understanding

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Originally Posted by Onyxys

Why easy? Cone attack cover almost whole location, if boss turn around. Doesnt matter where boss is standing. If I saw just one tank with such movement, but EVERY tank- it is out of my understanding

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It does indeed cover most of the area if boss is in middle, but range classes can actually be outside its range if hes tanked to the side. Either way it only takes 2 seconds to position so it isnt much of an issue.

Another question- why need to avoid this cone aoe? I play monk and always take debuff of this attack for not losing DPS. Some heal and Im fine

I played with my co-clans who didnt move boss anywhere and DPS was fine, everything was fine. Why we can and another can not?

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Originally Posted by Onyxys

Another question- why need to avoid this cone aoe? I play monk and always take debuff of this attack for not losing DPS. Some heal and Im fine

I played with my co-clans who didnt move boss anywhere and DPS was fine, everything was fine. Why we can and another can not?

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You'd be surprised how much the initial burst does. Also, you can avoid the aoe burst by barely moving, even if you do stand in the cone. You just move away for like a second. Even the tank can avoid it. You're basically complaining about the tank making it easier for the rest of the party. You'll find little support here.

I know simple thing- this cone AoE all players can take easily- healer can heal. No need to move boss from any 1st position, which it takes on tank at first time. I- monk, and Im loosing DPS, trying to hit running boss. I hate this tank stupidity

From a healers point of view i actually get annoyed when they dont pull him to a corner the aoe takes up the whole field and drops a pretty aggressive poison on whoever gets hit by it which does alot of damage per tick also drops the healing debuff on them now dont get me wrong i can easliy keep up but its annoying to have to do things that otherwise are easily avoidable

From a tank stand point i like making things easier on everyone in the group including the healer who is keeping me alive.

From a Dps stand point i dont see how you are losing dps it takes a fraction of a second for the tank to get aggro and pull him to the corner as dps you should be giving the tank about 5-10 seconds to get full aggro before attacking anyways by that time the enemy should already be in the corner

Melee DPS can not hit running target because of server latency

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Originally Posted by Onyxys

Melee DPS can not hit running target because of server latency

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I..I......you..dont need to run while hitting it takes 3 seconds or less to get him to the corner as dps you should be waiting 5-10 seconds for the tank to get full aggro so you dont pull it off him by accident...

So positioning a boss in order to make the lives of the rest of the party, especially the healer, a little bit easier makes tanks stupid? Ok there, bud.

Lifes? Is this boss so terrible? I dont think so. As I sad- I kill this boss with co-clans without moving and we are not a SUPER speed runners. 20 minutes for us is fine, so, I can think, that all other tanks and healers are just... bad players

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Originally Posted by Onyxys

Another question- why need to avoid this cone aoe? I play monk and always take debuff of this attack for not losing DPS. Some heal and Im fine

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If you avoided the attack your healer could keep DPSing themselves. That boss is weak enough that just keeping regen on him is enough for most of the fight.

All I see here is bad monk crying about not being able to attack for the first 5 seconds of a fight, and he's losing SO MUCH precious dps because of those 5 seconds.

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Originally Posted by Onyxys

Lifes? Is this boss so terrible? I dont think so. As I sad- I kill this boss with co-clans without moving and we are not a SUPER speed runners. 20 minutes for us is fine, so, I can think, that all other tanks and healers are just... bad players

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I find it highly amusing that a Monk, who, a few months ago was asking why they could not roll on equipment with Dexterity and complaining that Monks are too weak and needed an adjustment, is now calling other players bad.

Start of fight: takes 3 seconds to position. Lost dps is negligible.

Mid fight: a competent tank will keep the boss there and avoid the poison. When the boss moves, it's because the ranged players stand too far away, so the boss has to move in range for his aoe attack.

So complain to the ranged players, not to the tank.

And 20 minutes is the super low end of what can be called a speed run. You gain bragging rights after all your runs are 10~12 minutes.

This is done for speed and efficiency, simple. You not getting hit means the WHM can keep nuking in cleric stance and not have to cure or leech you. The fastest speed runs all involve a strat that involves everyone avoiding AoE. Is it a huge difference? No, but if you're aiming for sub 10 minute runs, its a good idea.

Ah sorry, ignore part about time. Misread your post there.

On mobile now so no edit function. :(

This must be some kind of weird troll? Can't see why anyone would make a thread about the first boss in Wanderer's otherwise.

You only tank him at the line if it's a speed run. If it's just a normal run it takes all of 3 seconds to position him in the corner. Chill.

While there isn't much point to it, it doesn't create an issue either.

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Originally Posted by Onyxys

I know simple thing- this cone AoE all players can take easily- healer can heal. No need to move boss from any 1st position, which it takes on tank at first time. I- monk, and Im loosing DPS, trying to hit running boss. I hate this tank stupidity

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You're playing with bad tanks then. A tank can move away to dodge the aoe, and move back without him moving. Also, you have a mentality problem. "I shouldn't have to move, the healer should have to heal me through everything" You're wrong. It's avoidable damage, and you should be trying to avoid it. First Boss of WP is a pushover, and you're just being stubborn.

Even a Monk with 3 Stacks of Greased Lightning can dodge the aoe within the span of a single, now faster, GCD.

This is one of the dumbest QQ posts I have ever seen. Props OP.

because most boss fight involves taking the boss into a corner so Tanks are programmed to see the boss and take him to a corner

OK, tanks (and others). Continue to be... not clever and casual

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Originally Posted by Onyxys

OK, tanks (and others). Continue to be... not clever and casual

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Again, props. This was a fairly creative troll post, and you got lots of bites: 8/10.

Tires of Stupidity is a brilliant name for a new dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Mezolitik

Tires of Stupidity is a brilliant name for a new dungeon.

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He he) But lets fix the mistake I made- @TireD of Stupidity@

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Originally Posted by Onyxys

Why easy? Cone attack cover almost whole location, if boss turn around. Doesnt matter where boss is standing. If I saw just one tank with such movement, but EVERY tank- it is out of my understanding

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1. It is so that the ranged can back up out of the cone.

2. Its only 10 steps or 2-3 seconds of holding the mouse. (why the rage?)

3. You have been told why, yet still fight on.

4. I love numbered responses.

4a. And lamp.

OP, I bet you stand in plumes on Titan too, so you don't have to move and lose dps.

If you can't dodge such a simple, and brief mechanic, and not lose dps on your monk, it may be time to pick a different a job to play.

As others have pointed out, I can only assume this was a trolling thread. If not, then when you call players bad, you must be looking in a mirror.