should i quit the game if...

... im stuck on Howling Eye and Aurum Vale for a month now ?

i got to a point where im not sure if this is the right game for me , up until those above dutys i had lots of fun and was enjoying the game . but i cant beat them which makes me unable to proceed in story and grand company questlines

im currently levelling other jobs but soon im at the point with each job where i have to beat them to proceed

i dont wanna quit as i got like 4 months of sub but its getting very frustrating to advance , i imagine the next dungeons will be even harder.

Did you have problems beatin them too , or is it just me that sucks too much ?

What's giving you trouble in these 2 instances?

Aurum Vale is stupid hard for what it is, and Garuda is fairly difficult.

I would suggest that you look for a free company to give you advice and to help you through some challenging spots. This game is fairly difficult for a casual player overall, so no need to feel bad - just get in tune with the social aspect of the game, and you will find the mechanical aspects because no big deal!

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Originally Posted by Ghasto

What's giving you trouble in these 2 instances?

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in AV surviving and beating the (last) boss pretty much , same for Howling except its the only boss

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Originally Posted by Ehayte

Aurum Vale is stupid hard for what it is, and Garuda is fairly difficult.

I would suggest that you look for a free company to give you advice and to help you through some challenging spots. This game is fairly difficult for a casual player overall, so no need to feel bad - just get in tune with the social aspect of the game, and you will find the mechanical aspects because no big deal!

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ill keep practicing and some day maybe ill beat the story , thanks :D

Find a FC that has players who can help. Final boss in Arum vail is a joke with players who understand the fight.. Fight boss eat mushroom @ 3 stacks aoe adds when he spawns them. Eat mushroom if you get breathed on. and repeat.

Garuda is an interesting fight . Most the time its on the healers and tanks to keep everyone going. tanks gotta learn the right places to move the boss and pick up adds. Healers need to watch there aggro while keeping everyone alive. Only thing that will help you is to not join DF and get a FC.

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Originally Posted by AmnesiaHaze

in AV surviving and beating the (last) boss pretty much , same for Howling except its the only boss

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Well I'll tell you right now that AV can be pure hell with a PUG, but you already know this, don't worry, it just is.

Best thing to do would be to do what Ehayte suggested, get some good company to help you out, I know I personally don't want to DF Aurum Vale ever again.
Garuda is also a pretty tough storyline fight, again, get some good people by your side, learn the fight and you'll be golden.

A fc and friends to help/help you is a big part of this game. It took me by surprise when from 1.0, 2.0 has a strong emphasis on execution and player skill. Concentrate on playing your favorite job as best as you can, if end game combat content is your goal. Look up guides to show you move rotations that maximize your potential. If you are a good player, and gear yourself progressively, it is very easy to start to clear content with other good players who will want to play with you again for said reasons. All that said, Garuda is kinda the wall where it becomes much better to have a competent group of people and where Duty finder just doesn't cut it anymore. Stick in there and enjoy the game, sounds like your doing it right.

Ever heard of an FC? Maybe join one and ask for help? You're gonna need it once you begin your relic quest and get to Titan HM. The problem is obviously because you don't know how and where to get help. If you don't want to join an FC, then go shout in Revenant's Toll or somewhere there's a lot of people and hopefully someone will answer your call. Repeating DF after failing again and again is not a way to solve your problem. Have you watched youtube for tips on the fight? Have u explained to the aoe dps what to do at AV's boss? You'll be surprised how easy that boss is once the AOE dps (bard/blm/whm) know what to do during adds.

Try to get one BLM to go with you, makes the last boss much easier. I'd run it with you if we had the option :(

Im sorry but something is wrong, at the early stage of the game most ppl had problem on garuda and aurum, but it was never hard, now even on df the successful rate is probably 95%+ at lest on garuda, i rly don't know why are u stuck, or u playing very bad or u rly unlucky, find ur self u fc, go with then on this 2 instance in a voice program, as ask for them to judge ur player, this way u will know there the problem is, and u can work to resolve it, i would help but u are not from my server.

Maybe, there will be harder content after those.

You could just start buying it or join a good fc.

Seriously, join a good FC. PUG's are ridiculous AND the added benefit of an FC is if you're ever having problems with something else or have questions there are people around who can answer. I was thinking of quitting FFXIV after free play time expired, but I found an awesome FC with people who actually made the game 1000X more enjoyable. The game is so much better when you're playing with friends!

thanks for all the feedback, will use the tips for my next attempts, and yeah im in a FC but they are all in endgame and usually busy with that when im asking...

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Originally Posted by AmnesiaHaze

thanks for all the feedback, will use the tips for my next attempts, and yeah im in a FC but they are all in endgame and usually busy with that when im asking...

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Sorry to say this but I would leave an FC like that if they left you stuck with those dungeons for months.

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Originally Posted by Bizniztyme

Sorry to say this but I would leave an FC like that if they left you stuck with those dungeons for months.

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to be fair , ive just started to bother em since a few days , before i thought ill make it on my own (dutyfinder) :D

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Originally Posted by NightWrath

now even on df the successful rate is probably 95%+ at lest on garuda

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I just have one question, where did you get that 95% success rate you're claiming? Personally I had to do howling eye over 10 times because people die to stupid shit and I'm certain it wasn't a skill issue on my part. DF can pair you with a lot of people who don't know what they're doing, I very highly doubt that there is a 95% success rate for AV and howling eye in DF.

My advice to the OP, keep trying, as I mentioned above it took me over 10 tries to beat garuda when I did it and now I'm in a T5 coil group. Finding an FC will definitely help but it can take some effort on your part to find one that's right for you. As for whether you should quit or not, ask yourself this one question, are you still having fun? At the end of a day this is a game, have fun with it.

In both of these fights, Holy helps a lot.

For Garuda (I'm assuming normal mode?), after she teleports and you hide behind the rocks, run up near her, turn on Cleric Stance, use Swiftcast (optional, if you have it), then Holy when the feathers appear, turn Cleric off and back to healing. Also, stay spread out on the outside edge. Friction really hurts on NM, and you don't want it to hit more than one person at a time if you can help it. After she destroys the rocks (The Reckoning Comes), get everyone healed back up with some medicas, but make sure you always stay focused on the tank first. For the second half in the middle, always stay behind Garuda or as far away as you can. Don't be afraid to use healer limit break if you need to.

For final boss in Aurum Vale, the key point is using Holy on the seeds before they ... spawn/hatch? Also really need the tank to dodge Bad Breath. If they do get hit, don't bother trying to esuna it all. Takes too long and too much mp. Don't forget to eat fruit at 3+ stacks.

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Originally Posted by Elurra

In both of these fights, Holy helps a lot.

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thx! will try the holy spell, its just its very expensive and im running out of MP even without using it and just healing my teams

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Originally Posted by AmnesiaHaze

thx! will try the holy spell, its just its very expensive and im running out of MP even without using it and just healing my teams

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That's a problem.
You're not overusing Cure II or Medica are you?

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Originally Posted by AmnesiaHaze

to be fair , ive just started to bother em since a few days , before i thought ill make it on my own (dutyfinder) :D

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Ahhh understood....hopefully you'll be able to beat it soon....people here have been giving great advice. :)

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Originally Posted by Ghasto

That's a problem.
You're not overusing Cure II or Medica are you?

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im not using medica at all to be honest, i target invidually and use cure/cure2 depending on the needed heal size ... also if i see a hurt dps that doesnt get constant damage at the time i give him a quick regen and keep healing the tank to save precious time where i would need multiple cure spells for the dps

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Originally Posted by Bizniztyme

Ahhh understood....hopefully you'll be able to beat it soon....people here have been giving great advice. :)

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i agree , the forum community rocks and appreciate the input so much. i have now faith again to make it :D im happy i made this thread

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Originally Posted by AmnesiaHaze

im not using medica at all to be honest, i target invidually and use cure/cure2 depending on the needed heal size ... also if i see a hurt dps that doesnt get constant damage at the time i give him a quick regen and keep healing the tank to save precious time where i would need multiple cure spells for the dps

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Well, sounds like how I'd do it, adding in that I usually only use Cure II with the Freecure proc and rarely spend MP casting it.
Sounds like you just need some reliable people with you then.

As far as AV, bring a whm with holy. Holy can nearly one shot the pods that's spawn the adds on Miser (Last boss). Holy twice or holy once with dps support with their aoe's. Makes the fight a million times easier. Also get rid of burs sat 3 stacks. 4 is pushing it.

Coincounter, you just need to pay attention to him. He doesn't have red circles/lines so is good ol' fashion pay attention to the boss itself.

First boss......hardest boss there IMO. Keep Regen on everyone and drop stacks at 2. 3 is too much for a healer unless they are experienced.

Biggest advice I can bring for the easiest run...no sch. Bring a white Mage. Sch can do it, but the rest of the group needs to do their part very well as sch lacks the burst aoe healing a whm has. And not to mention the poison on first boss annihilates a fairy. Can't sure them and can't make them eat fruit. Same with last boss, but they at least take reduced aoe damage so they can stay alive better on Miser.

I haven't tried AV yet. Normal Garuda is doable and actually an excellent, fun fight if the group knows what to do. I don't think any particular classes are needed.

P.S.
I think a key to a successful fight is a good camera position, neither too near nor too far, and a bit overhead. That's true for many boss fights, of course. :)

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Originally Posted by DoctorPepper

I just have one question, where did you get that 95% success rate you're claiming? Personally I had to do howling eye over 10 times because people die to stupid shit and I'm certain it wasn't a skill issue on my part. DF can pair you with a lot of people who don't know what they're doing, I very highly doubt that there is a 95% success rate for AV and howling eye in DF.

My advice to the OP, keep trying, as I mentioned above it took me over 10 tries to beat garuda when I did it and now I'm in a T5 coil group. Finding an FC will definitely help but it can take some effort on your part to find one that's right for you. As for whether you should quit or not, ask yourself this one question, are you still having fun? At the end of a day this is a game, have fun with it.

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Every time mytho reset and i cant find a garuda farm for being to early i use df with my paladin full ak set and almost never fail... but i admit that sometimes a blm/smn succeed in to miss the comet from all 3 garudas o.O

And when i go with my brd is very very hard for it to fail, ppl on behemoth seems that have learn the fight.

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Originally Posted by AmnesiaHaze

... or is it just me that sucks too much ?

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yeah you just suck too much, its not hard

I make a lot of mistakes when I play..... I try to go in overgeared if possible. Maybe you should focus on upgrading your armor (if you havn't yet.) It can make up for a lot of mistakes.

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Originally Posted by XainTheGreat

yeah you just suck too much, its not hard

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Gotta love the internet

@OP just keep on trying, best would be going with people you know, at least that way can talk over and try again with same group next time around while DF group is always going to be different people.

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Originally Posted by XainTheGreat

yeah you just suck too much, its not hard

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Gotta love the internet

@OP just keep on trying, best would be going with people you know, at least that way can talk over and try again with same group next time around while DF group is always going to be different people.

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actually he may be right there :D i dont mind a honest opinion

I beat both my first go round (Though each took several wipes). Honestly, just keep trying. Also, explain the boss mechanics because people are going to be new in DF and both of those bosses are pretty unforgiving if you don't know what to do. Also, make sure your melee DPS is using LB2 on the bosses. Especially Garuda. Using it can be the difference between wiping in phase one and advancing to phase two.

for AV last voss, you need to AoE the egg and eat fruit when u got to 3 stack. depend on your healer , it really easy with WHM, he can go into cleric stand and Holy the egg ( 2 holy will do the job)

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Originally Posted by Remn

for AV last voss, you need to AoE the egg and eat fruit when u got to 3 stack. depend on your healer , it really easy with WHM, he can go into cleric stand and Holy the egg ( 2 holy will do the job)

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i am the healer (WHM) , gotta try that , i was saving all my MP for healing so far because i used to run out by end

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Originally Posted by AmnesiaHaze

i am the healer (WHM) , gotta try that , i was saving all my MP for healing so far because i used to run out by end

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Even one Holy will do wonders. In my group, the Bard and I (Dragoon) were both AOEing, but with one Holy added in, the eggs were so much easier.

Hmm this is the 2nd post I've seen this week where someone is saying they either will quit or have quit due to the story being too difficult. It really surprises me, but I have a very strong RPG and MOBA background, so I think I might just understand the concepts min/max and incentive principle more than a casual player would. You should, as others have suggest, find a Free Company and look around online. There's great guides for every class and every dungeon. I'm sorry you're having trouble to the point of frustration, but that will bring an even greater resolution when you beat these battles. And you WILL beat them eventually! :D

On my first time in AV I was going as WHM. I didn't do anything but heal and we failed time after time. When there was only like 7 minutes left I decided on our last attempt that I will cast holy ( I didn't even have it on my crossbar) and bham! dungeon complete.

Holy is the ticket for whm in AV.

Good luck dude

I had trouble with AV as well took about a week to get it. Finally on the last time I ran it the monk said something about the whm using holy, the original whm left the group and we got a new one. Yep holy does wonders for that place finished it without another wipe.

@OP looks like you're on my server if you'd like to group up sometime I can help you try and get these to fights done :) Just send me a message in game if you see me on.

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Originally Posted by XainTheGreat

yeah you just suck too much, its not hard

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Hey, bored of commenting on Youtube?

Sounds to me that you just need some friends to play with there, buddy. Join an FC, plenty of good folks out there to show you the ropes :)