Who has a coil turn5 guide?

Since more and more players past turn5 Who could share a guide or like to write one for turn5? Not video guide.

Just basically explain
1.each phase mechanics
2. What tank/DPS/healer should do during each phase.

I found it was very hard to find people doing T5. No motivation to most of them if they are not hardcore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2_ONXgvf8I
Prolly the best you'll find without going 1 on 1 with an actual raider.

this?

A bit more in depth...For phase 5...

Phase 5 lasts about 2 minutes.

Neurolink: The 3 black pools around the arena, formed earlier in the fight when her necklace pieces drop off. They half the damage/healing output of the person inside, but also reduce the damage they take.

Liquid Hell: Used once every ~17 seconds. A random character(MT is possible too) is targeted. Liquid hell shots do 500-1000 on impact and then up to 1500 per tic to anyone standing in the resulting pool. Twintania fires off 5 shots per usage. Twintania stops attacking while she is doing this(But this does not appear to delay DS).

Eggs: Used once every ~9 seconds. A random character is targeted(indicated by a purple animation around them). The egg then floats to them before doing ~2200 damage on impact(if standing in neurolink, on a non-tank). The egg can be intercepted by other characters(Not sure if they can be intercepted by pets :) ).

DS/Plummet/Attacks:It seems these are identical to phases 4 and 2. She does DS every 36 seconds, though maybe she'll reset for some reason? For the most part, it seems her other mechanics are moved around her usage of DS, not the other way around.

Enrage: 13 minutes after the fight starts, Twintania will freak out, blowing away the neurolinks and prepping Aetherial Profusion(her massive ringwide aoe).

MT responsibility is the same as phase 4, except there's a possibility he will be targeted by liquid hell. If he is, he should pop hallowed ground and wait there until all 5 liquid hell shots have been fired, then rotate out of the pools and continue tanking Twintania as if nothing had happened.

OT responsibility is to stand in the latest neurolink pool(directly under Twintania) and suck eggs until he's forced to abandon his post by being targeted by liquid hell.

The healers will heal and mitigate MT in the same fashion they have in Phases 4 and 2. Now there's the additional responsibility to heal/mitigate the OT, who will get hit with an egg(for ~1500? Maybe less?) every 9 seconds. The rest of the party will be taking damage from liquid hell, but as long as they aren't standing in them, the damage shouldn't be severe. One thing I found helpful for avoiding Weight of the Land is to have sprint active and be moving before it begins(Obviously not an option for TP classes).

This is the best I've been able to glean through the various materials available.

Phase 4: This phase should take a bit over 2:40.

Dreadknight: A dreadknight will appear every 40 seconds. Upon appearance, they will imprison a random(non-mt) party member and begin slowly approaching them. If they make it to the imprisoned party member, they will instagib them and imprison a new random party member. Dreadknights can be stunned and slowed. Having a Paladin as OT here is particularly useful as they have a 6 second stun. It seems it's important to keep as far away from the center of the arena as possible before the DK spawns to increase the distance the dreadknight needs to walk to get to an imprisoned player.


Twister: Twintania will use Twister once every 25(ish) seconds. When she uses it, a random selection of party members will be quietly targeted. They must then keep moving without retracing their steps while she is casting it. When the cast is completed, a small twister will be left in their wake. If anyone steps on it(or fails to keep moving while she's casting), they will be instagibbed. For this reason, it is important that players keep spread out as much as possible.

DS/Plummet/Autoattacks: Same as phase 2?

Role responsibilities:

MT tanks as usual.

Healers will only need to heal the MT this phase(so maybe it would be best for one healer to go into cleric stance to help with the DKs?)

Everyone else kills/stuns/slows DKs when they appear as fast as possible and supports as normal with virus/eye-for-eye/rain of death.

Again, this is the best I've been able to glean and should be taken with a grain of salt ^^

Phase 3: This phase will last a little over 3 minutes.

Snakes: Snakes! Snaaakes! Um...Asclepius has a lot of hp. Hygieia are relatively fragile and, when killed, give a damage increase buff called disseminate to friend and foe alike, thus making it easier to kill Asclepius(and the MT). None of the snakes have a cleave attack, so no fear about standing next to the tank here. Beat the first group of Hygieias down to ~70%, drag all 5 snakes together after the second set of divebombs and throw the BLM/SMN L3 LB at them to leave the first two hygieias dead and the second two crippled. Finish off the hygieias and then kill asclepius. Snake damage is snaky(it's dangerous, but doesn't seem to be omg dangerous)

Divebombs: I know you said no video guides, but this is so much easier to understand if you see this. With each set, Twintania will target random people with dive 3 times, spaced 7 seconds apart. Each time, she will target a random party member(indicated with a green marker). After a second of indecision, she will swoop toward the point they were standing at when first targeted. Anyone hit will be moved in the direction of her movement and dealt some (non-lethal) thousands of damage. Now, the beginning point of her swoop is the key to this mechanic. She (randomly?) starts from one of four starting positions around the arena. These starting points are inside the firewall, so it's possible to get her pointing laterally or outside the arena as she starts her swoop if the person she's targeting is under her starting point, and therefore make it completely harmless. Mr. Happy's video guide has an image showing these starting points on his video(though his diagram shows them being outside the firewall...as the first linked video shows, they are not.)

So the idea is to stand at the very edge of the arena(without crisping yourself) behind her spawn point and run away from the edge when the symbol appears, leaving Twintania to harmlessly shoot off into the abyss(away from the arena...I guess into a wall since we're underground).

Twintania will do one set of divebombs, summon 2 hygieias and an asclepius, and then do the next set of divebombs beginning 45 seconds later after the last targeting from the first set. After the second set, she will summon the remainder of the hygieias. She will reappear a little over a minute after the last targeting from the second set. Sooo...
Dive -7- Dive -7- Dive/Snakes -45- Dive -7- Dive -7- Dive/Snakes -~65- Twintania reappears

Again, this is the best I could glean. If I have made some horrible horrible error, by all means, someone correct me.

Death Sentence/Plummet/autoattacks: Throughout the battle, in phases 1, 2, 4, and 5, Twintania will use as her own personal contribution to the worthy cause of trying to kill the player characters who have unjustifiably encroached on her territory a number of autoattacks and two abilities. One is plummet, which I won't comment on. The other is Death Sentence(DS), the mastery of which is essential to winning the battle. DS occurs every 35-36 seconds...probably. In videos and my own limited experience, it seems to sometimes defy that interval, but there's nothing that can be done about that, so we're going to assume it happens every 35 seconds. What's more, phase 1 excluded, it also adds a healing debuff(called Infirmity). As routine tank-swapping is probably impractical by phases 4 and 5, I'm not going to touch on that.

An unmitigated DS deals more than enough by itself to kill even a main tank with max gear. It must be met with a cocktail of mitigation abilities. Ideally, every DS(spaced 35 seconds) will be used by a Twintania with the Rain of Death(-10% damage) and Virus(-15% str) debuffs. Eye for Eye(-10% damage) if possible. Furthermore, the tank should always have before being hit with DS stoneskin and adloquium shield. Whether it's best to use sacred soil or lustrate(1300 infirmity-proof heal vs. -10% damage for 15s) varies based on the circumstances, but saving for lustrate is probably the better choice. And naturally he should be skillfully rotating his own mitigation abilities as well. It is generally the tank's (hopefully redundant) responsibility to keep track of the DS timer and alert the party to it coming. I find FF14app and LogRep2.0 to be fine ways of keeping track of DS...a 28 second delayed chime every time she uses it.

Have the party rotate their viruses and you should be able to have her under virus for every DS.

I hope all of this has proved of help to somebody...if anyone has anything to add, by all means. Maybe I'll add Phase 2 if I have the time, but that's easier to find detailed info on I think.

Cryvil, thx for the info. Very helpful.

Can Turn 5 be done with 2 White mages? Also turn 4 while I'm at it.

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Originally Posted by NeonC

Can Turn 5 be done with 2 White mages? Also turn 4 while I'm at it.

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Yes, everything can be double WHM'd.

Is it faster to DPS down the first two snakes and then go on Asclepius or get them to BLM LB kill range then swap the the main snake.

You can see how we did it at 2:22:22
http://www.twitch.tv/exocorsair/b/482497414
But we aren't able to kill the main snake before Twintania swoops down. Is this a gear issue or should we be doing it a different way? I'm the only person specced 30 vit (SCH)

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Originally Posted by Sheapy

Is it faster to DPS down the first two snakes and then go on Asclepius or get them to BLM LB kill range then swap the the main snake.

You can see how we did it at 2:22:22
http://www.twitch.tv/exocorsair/b/482497414
But we aren't able to kill the main snake before Twintania swoops down. Is this a gear issue or should we be doing it a different way? I'm the only person specced 30 vit (SCH)

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I notice your targets hp bar isd split into segments, how do you do that?:O

But yea my group does fight the same way you do on video (though we all stack at divebomb dodging), some of your dps are either slacking or undergeared. Likely your dragoon since his aggro bar is terribly low. Bard could also use foe requiem if he isnt allready.

You can also tank the snakes where the group gathers to avoid divebombs which allows melee to do damage. You could do with killing second set of adds 2-4 seconds faster. (strength potion might help if gear is an issue).

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Originally Posted by Sheapy

Is it faster to DPS down the first two snakes and then go on Asclepius or get them to BLM LB kill range then swap the the main snake.

You can see how we did it at 2:22:22
http://www.twitch.tv/exocorsair/b/482497414
But we aren't able to kill the main snake before Twintania swoops down. Is this a gear issue or should we be doing it a different way? I'm the only person specced 30 vit (SCH)

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With a LB3, the #1 marked snake should explode as soon as the Meteor lands.... it still has 20% life left. With LB2 we are able to get it down to ~65% before that lands, and that has a quicker cast. So higher, and quicker, DPS on the 2nd snake set will improve overall DPS. Your Asclepious DPS in the divebomb section is also sort of low, with LB2 we usually have it at about 67%, I think judging from your overlay it was at about 74% with LB3. It might be because its outside of the range of the DRG to attack during divebombs besides for Piercing Talon, which is a huge waste of TP (and might be why his damage is the lowest during the 4 stack Asclepious).

Also don't be afraid for DPS to get stacks during the 2nd add sets, it will wear off 2-3 seconds before Aetherial Profusion if you kill them quickly enough which is usually never a problem if you end up having LB3.

I wanted to clarify a couple of things I left incomplete.

Infirmity:Lasts 15 seconds and gives -50% healing. Doesn't affect Lustrate.

Divebombs: Twintania does indeed choose the one(of four) fixed starting points closest to her divebomb target. Also, this appears to be subject to the same weird lag rules that Titan's landslide is. That is...Let's say that you're on the edge of Titan's pillar and Titan is one yalm closer to the center. Titan then targets you with landslide and you proceed to run right at him and through him to his back. But because of the lag, you get hit anyway. Supposedly you should get blown off the arena, but the way the lag works, paradoxicaly you'll get blown towards the center, opposite the force vector of the landslide, and probably live. This doesn't look so weird when it comes to Titan extreme, because it appears the new landslide animation doesn't have any implied directional force. So what does all this mean? Well, a number of points regarding divebomb.

1. They are separated by a fixed 7 seconds, so if you time it, you can count it out and start moving a half second before the symbol appears.

2. From the time the first symbol appears to the time the third symbol appears, 14 seconds will pass. With full TP, sprint will last 20 seconds.

3. Unlike landslide, if server delay causes you to still get hit, there's little chance of being blown out of the arena as long as you're moving perpendicularly to the edge towards the center of the stage.

4. It's not a wipe if you screw up a divebomb. They only do a couple hundred more than the ~3000 that Titan's abilities do. As snakes lack a cleave, the only way a non-tank can die if the snakes are properly tanked is if they screw up a second divebomb.

Once again, this is to the best of my terribly limited knowledge. If I'm completely wrong about something, please say so :)

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Originally Posted by Rhained

I notice your targets hp bar isd split into segments, how do you do that?:O

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I think it's LogRep but I'm not 100% sure. I'll have to get back to you on that.

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Originally Posted by Zdenka

With a LB3, the #1 marked snake should explode as soon as the Meteor lands.... it still has 20% life left. With LB2 we are able to get it down to ~65% before that lands, and that has a quicker cast. So higher, and quicker, DPS on the 2nd snake set will improve overall DPS...

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Out of curiosity what are you guys using your LB on to only have LB2 during this phase? Or is it just because your dps is really high

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Originally Posted by Sheapy

Out of curiosity what are you guys using your LB on to only have LB2 during this phase? Or is it just because your dps is really high

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We DPS constantly for the entire fight, we often transition very very shortly after the 4th Conflaguration. There is still a possibility of having a LB3 for us, but typically not.


If you:
-Transition after 5 Conflagurations
-Have tank getting hit below 15% HP on Death Sentence
-Have people getting killed

There becomes a higher chance of you having LB3. In a pace to kill it between 11-12 minutes, unless someone dies you typically won't have it. If you have watched the world first BG kill video, it shows we wait intentionally to build LB3 (and do very slow DPS in the early phases on top of that), but at the end we hit the 13 minute enrage timer. We found that doing it with LB2 (pushing it down as fast as we can) is a much more consistent option to avoid the enrage timer; if you are really dependent on completing it with LB3 the easiest method IMO would to just have a DPS to die and not really matter to Plummets (BLM is the best option imo, since it has no MP/TP issues that are caused by death).

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Originally Posted by Rhained

I notice your targets hp bar isd split into segments, how do you do that?:O

But yea my group does fight the same way you do on video (though we all stack at divebomb dodging), some of your dps are either slacking or undergeared. Likely your dragoon since his aggro bar is terribly low. Bard could also use foe requiem if he isnt allready.

You can also tank the snakes where the group gathers to avoid divebombs which allows melee to do damage. You could do with killing second set of adds 2-4 seconds faster. (strength potion might help if gear is an issue).

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interested in this as well. or does anyone have anything else to show percentage health of target?

it's logrep2 showing a colored overlay, so u can determine the % of hp

Kinda off topic but could you guys tell me who is your my healer and party healer?
Thank very much. And how well do your healers on mana preservation time till they are at 50% manna and so on?