Certain Jobs Will Always Be Better

I see a few people getting upset because they can't do every single event at optimal levels with their chosen job.

There's always going to a certain build that does a bit better in any given fight or dungeon.
In WoW everything is the same. Just hit a button and GtG.


In FF MMO's there's differences. You can also level any job you want, and in this game it's ridiculously easy to do so.
I just hit 50 on all classes, and in what a few months? Working on 6th relic, there's no reason besides unwillingness and lack of effort for anyone to not have multiple 50s by 2014.

Yoshi has already thrown out;
~Elemental weaknesses
~Blunt/piercing/slashing weakness mobs
~Individual LB's

And I for one would like to keep some level of difference between jobs before we're all just reskined models of the same DPS job.

Yes BLM,BRD,PLD,WHM are great for a very certain build in one dungeon,

I remember when MNK & DRG were the hot item for demon wall, and 2x BRD was crap in AK. MNK & DRG will be the most sought after again for some other new event, and maybe BLM and BRD won't be wanted. Things will always rotate. This game has done a good job at keeping things as close as possible, but has already thrown out iconic FF mechanics (elemental weaknesses, individual LBS)

Enjoy your jobs, play with skill, you might have a harder time, you might do WP in 18 mins vs. 12 mins, but it's your choice.

This is coming from someone who main classed SMN for 5 years in FFXI at 75.
Do you love your current class more then getting fast invites? Then stay as is, but don't get upset because your not always the hot ticket.

I do whatever i want with every job i want. And no, i don't care of WP speedruns.

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In WoW everything is the same. Just hit a button and GtG.

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I just had to laugh at this a bit.

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Originally Posted by Machazareel

I just had to laugh at this a bit.

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I played WoW to 90 after 1.0.

It was extremely homogenized. But you can only pick one class, so that makes sense. Fortunately we don't have to deal with that in XIV since you can level all Jobs.

Hmmmmm......

what is this thread about ?

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

what is this thread about ?

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About how you can't have balance without homogenization.

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

what is this thread about ?

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Rose-tinted glasses, "I wish they'd add/change this" thread, basically.

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Originally Posted by Ri_ri

About how you can't have balance without homogenization.

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Yep and even with "balanced" people will still prefer certain job over other job to do other things i.e. WP. Now does that mean it's not possible to do it with other jobs? Nope, but that's beside the point. I do miss the elemental wheel, which should be a main reason to play blm, and weapon type resistance. Here's to hoping they'll be more prominent later on.

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

what is this thread about ?

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Sorry I'll use simpler words

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Game too bland when uniqueness tossed out because people upset can't be best at everything all the time on one class

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Originally Posted by Douten

Yep and even with "balanced" people will still prefer certain job over other job to do other things i.e. WP.

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Speed runs aren't representative of class or job viability. 4-mans can be cleared by any set up within the tank/healer/2DPS spectrum. 8-mans encourage balanced parties to get the most bang for your buck. I'd say the approach the game has taken to that has done well enough.

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Originally Posted by OrionInerghem

Game too bland when uniqueness tossed out because people upset can't be best at everything all the time on one class

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The game is as bland as you let it get, as uniqueness will always be trumped by functionality and balance at the end of the day. If you get bored because you have no one to purposely exclude from content, then I think you have bigger problems than whether the game is bland or not.

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Originally Posted by Duelle

Speed runs aren't representative of class or job viability. 4-mans can be cleared by any set up within the tank/healer/2DPS spectrum. 8-mans encourage balanced parties to get the most bang for your buck. I'd say the approach the game has taken to that has done well enough.

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I did not say if classes aren't able to do super fast speed run they're not viable, as a matter of fact I stated in the second sentence the dungeon could be done by any other job. The point was that certain jobs will be preferred over other jobs depending on what the objective is, and more than often the objective is success in the least amount of time. Therefore there is not much of a point to take uniqueness out of a job in fear that people would always choose said job over another, when it happens either way.

Things like Monk being able to do that extra damage to skeletons or piercing does more damage to birds is what would give game flavor, imo, and wouldn't hurt the game. I just think there's more flavor and depth that can be implemented without the fear that it'll lock out other jobs to contents. More than likely it won't happen though, oh well no hurt in wishful thinking.

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Originally Posted by OrionInerghem

Sorry I'll use simpler words

tl;dr
Game too bland when uniqueness tossed out because people upset can't be best at everything all the time on one class

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And that isn't a good thing? In 1.0 i had to beat 80% of the content with blm (job i hated) because it was the only right answer. Every melee was so penalized they were completely useless and the game was basicly BLM fantasy.FFXI was even worst. Is that a good thing to you ?
I'll support job diversity in every other offline game, but no more in a MMO:if i like to play a certain class, i don't want to be forced to don't do it. The entire argument "but this game allow you to play all jobs at once, so just switch" it's faulty when personal preferences come in play