What platform is future proof/safer Pc or Ps3

Hi I am wanting to future proof my game. As far as security and my game data what platform is best?

example if the ps3 gets discontinued would I be able to add my se account to a ps4 or pc and keep all my characters and items?

or go with pc?

PS3 players get a free conversion to PS4 when it is released. You don't even need to buy a new PS4 account, your PS3 account will be upgraded to PS4 whenever you are ready to switch.

So PS3/PS4 should be safe for the foreseeable future. You can also rely on the PC version since it is the first target of development.

You are good whichever you choose: so choose based on your own preferences and plans.

As for security PS3/PS4 are going to be much safer since it's very unlikely it's going to get infected with malware, key loggers, etc.

PC.
You can thank me later.

Your account is on SE's end. Regardless of which platform you play on, as long as you buy the game for that platform, you'll still have access to the same account/same characters.

As for your example: Yes, if for whatever reason the PS3's ability to connect to the game is discontinued, you would be able to continue on on PC or PS4. However, you would have to buy the game again for PC, but the PS4 version would be free as long as you use the same PSN account on the PS4.

PS3 is already outdated and offers an inferior game experience (washed-out, laggy, loading issues, no focus target, etc, etc). PC will always be the best platform, but PS4 should be fine. If you have a PS3 already and don't want to spend the money on a PC, you can just stay with that for a while until PS4 version comes out. I doubt they will stop supporting the PS3 version, but I would hesitate to recommend that anyone play it.

To directly answer your question: You can backup your PC game data. I don't believe you can backup your PS game data.

Security wise, if you can maintain a clean computer, they're equal, but if you're not very good at doing that, PS is the better option as consoles are harder and less lucrative to target with malwares.

That said, PC is always the safer option because you can upgrade your pc/replace it with a better one. In 5 years, if this game should last that long, it's tough to say / it's unpredictable / whether you'll be glad you're playing on a PS4 or if that system will be holding the game back.

Right now, just like PS2 and 3, the PS4 has amazing hardware and capability but it never seems to last as long as the hype promises.

Would the pc be as safe as the ps3 if I use it for just gaming and not use it for web surfing? (I use a netbook for web surfing.)

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Originally Posted by Steeled

To directly answer your question: You can backup your PC game data. I don't believe you can backup your PS game data.

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Actually, all this data is synced automatically to your PSN account if you turn it on (and it asks you to on first run of the game). So your data is backed up in the cloud. Worst case, you are a day or so out of date when you resync data.

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Originally Posted by DarkStaoneDragon

Would the pc be as safe as the ps3 if I use it for just gaming and not use it for web surfing? (I use a netbook for web surfing.)

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I would say if you are careful they should be about on par for security for most things. Most exploits for the PC come from browsing etc. You should still have your firewall and antivirus type software setup and installed.

Also, just as a note: you can support both at the same time. If you buy a PC account and already have a PS3 account, you can tie them together. You can play the same characters on both PC and PS3 (I do). Just again, so you aren't worried about long term support. The characters aren't tied to your platform, just the SE account

Get a PC. Get an authenticator. How can you not figure this out yourself?

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Originally Posted by Nadrojj

Get a PC. Get an authenticator. How can you not figure this out yourself?

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I Have a PS3 with FFXIV and a security token, no need to be a smart***, as far as an authenticator, I'd prefer the token, my Wife has a PC and PS3 with FFXIV on each, we were wondering what would be the smarter idea if we chose to get another account, the way it sounds PC is the best option.

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Originally Posted by Scratchs

As for security PS3/PS4 are going to be much safer since it's very unlikely it's going to get infected with malware, key loggers, etc.

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Common sense is the best security for anything.

Pc is future proof in the respect that you can update components whenever needed. This option will cost more money.

Console is future proof in the respect that everything that goes onto it is made to run well. This option will cost less money.

shouldn't it be obvious? if you want to "future proof" you go with an upgradable platform. e.g. PC. You can't upgrade the ps3 or ps4 short of swapping the hard drive.

Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn is a MMO. In order to be a MMO, no data is backed up on your end (explanation requires too much technical skills, so please just believe me).


PC: at best, you have your login ID remembered and game information in your RAM memory to make screens load faster.
PS3: same as PC, except with much less RAM memory, so less information stored.

Character data (names, gears, everything) is on SquareEnix side. Nothing, and I mean nothing is stored on your computer/PS3 except the game itself (graphics, musics, animations...). Actually, the game itself is doesn't work if you are no longer connected to SquareEnix (for instance, if you lose Internet connection or there is a game maintenance). All you have on your equipment are the files the game need to play.

Security-wise, you are more prone to account hacking on PC as hackers have it much easier on PC (the machine is fine, but people are dumb/inexperienced). Both PlayStation and PC are as vulnerable to SquareEnix themselves being hacked (yes, it can happen and it happened to other big companies like Sony/Microsoft).

As for which of the PlayStation or Computer you should choose, the choice is up to you.
-PlayStation version of the game is budget friendly ($200 for PS3). As an extra advantage, the game PlayStation version is especially designed for the PlayStation. Right now, the game is young, so not everything is perfect, but the game is designed to be properly playable on PS3. The PS3 version will be supported for the years to come. The only reason for the PS3 version to be discontinued would be for Sony to stop supporting the PS3, which will not happen anytime soon as PS2 is still supported. SquareEnix will be making a lot of money out of PS3 users, they will not stop providing the service. Also consider that in Japan, the home country of SquareEnix and Sony, they use their consoles for a really long time (games were still made for PS2 in early 2013 in Japan).

-Computer version of the game is budge intensive. A $200 PC (and only PC, no monitor/keyboard/mouse) will only provide you with a very limited experience to near unplayable experience (that is assuming your system can actually play the game). Yet, if you go for around $1000 (mid-high end PC) you will most likely be able to play the game at the best offered graphics (which is currently superior to PS3). Some features of the game will be better on the high end PC. Computers also come with the following drawbacks:
*User maintenance required (update/antivirus/cleanups/reboots) for PC. No maintenance means less performances. This doesn't apply to console.
*A computer need to be upgrade and have parts replaced to stay up to date. Not provided the proper upgrades and the computer will get slower and slower over the years (also related to maintenance). Console will be as efficient as day 1 throughout it's life (unless component failure or improper usage) and never require part replacement.
*A computer requires technical skills to operate properly. Issues are quick to arise otherwise.
*A computer performance varies greatly from really poor to very high with a single game version for all of them. Therefore, the PC version of the game is not optimized properly for all machines. Currently, it's bad for low-end PC and high-end PC. Low-end PC can't play the game properly if at all and high-end PC are limited by the game lower settings. Mid-high end PC have it the best right now.


For the general user with no knowledge in computers, limited budget (or unwillingness to spend on computer parts) that just want to enjoy his/her sessions of Final Fantasy, consoles are the best option. The consoles are VERY durable 4-6 years until the next generation arise and Sony still support their older console from another 4-6 years after the next generation is there (it's a Japanese thing).

For computer geeks with high budget, the PC version will provide better graphics and performances. They will need to constantly monitor and maintain their PC so its performance is stable and up to date.


Note: as PS4 version of the game has not been released, I don't want to include it in the analysis above.


Regards,
Lloyd Shade

PC > All.

A gaming PC built with the latest tech in 2013 has better specs than the Xbox One and PS4. And you can build one with those specs under 1000$. It will last you 5+ years minus minor upgrades. But gaming on a PC requires that you are a competent computer user. You need to be someone smart enough to know whats trying to phish you (to get your login info), and not to download things that will compromise your computer's security.

If you are not a seasoned PC veteran already, and don't have much PC experience, I'd recommend getting a really cheap one to learn on and go the ps3/ps4 route. Switch to PC later when you consider yourself seasoned and hardcore.

ps3 > ps4 at least until they release the directx11.2 or whatever version is coming out. Then PC since you will have to buy components to make use of the updated settings.

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Originally Posted by Scratchs

As for security PS3/PS4 are going to be much safer since it's very unlikely it's going to get infected with malware, key loggers, etc.

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why is that funny? have you had a ps3/4 infected with malware and key loggers? I tried googling it but couldn't find anything except people asking if it can be done. It can be done but I don't see cases so far.

Ok, so lets say I have a mid-high end PC (not one that can handle max settings), how long would it be before I'd have to upgrade components in it? would it be years? or per expansions?

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Originally Posted by DarkStaoneDragon

Ok, so lets say I have a mid-high end PC (not one that can handle max settings), how long would it be before I'd have to upgrade components in it? would it be years? or per expansions?

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I think it would run the game either way. I don't think directx11.2 or whatever support means they stop supporting the previous version. I don't think you will have to upgrade unless they plan to do a new engine or something radical like that.

On the other hand ps4 will play max settings, or so I have heard.

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Originally Posted by DarkStaoneDragon

Ok, so lets say I have a mid-high end PC (not one that can handle max settings), how long would it be before I'd have to upgrade components in it? would it be years? or per expansions?

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I built my PC beginning of 2010 for 1.0. Only upgrade I have done was add an ssd. It still plays on max settings. I payed about 1500.00 including monitor. So other than the SSD I have not done any major upgrades. I do not see "having" to for at least a couple more years. If you spend between 800-1000 dollars you should get about 5 years without having to upgrade. Wanting to upgrade is a something else all together.

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Originally Posted by ashikenshin

why is that funny? have you had a ps3/4 infected with malware and key loggers? I tried googling it but couldn't find anything except people asking if it can be done. It can be done but I don't see cases so far.

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It's funny because there was a point in time where the entire Playstation Network got hacked to pieces and sony shut down PSN for like 2 months and you couldn't play any online games, use netflix/hulu, purchase on the store etc. You could not log into your PSN ID for a LONNNNGGG Time. It was a disaster.

Imagine not being able to play FFXIV for 2 months with an active Subscription and it being Sony's fault and not SE's.

It's also funny because people have rooted PS3's that give them access to Linux and they can run w/e they want on it like it was a linux PC.

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Originally Posted by Ryios

It's funny because there was a point in time where the entire Playstation Network got hacked to pieces and sony shut down PSN for like 2 months and you couldn't play any online games, use netflix/hulu, purchase on the store etc. You could not log into your PSN ID for a LONNNNGGG Time. It was a disaster.

Imagine not being able to play FFXIV for 2 months with an active Subscription and it being Sony's fault and not SE's.

It's also funny because people have rooted PS3's that give them access to Linux and they can run w/e they want on it like it was a linux PC.

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how is that compared to keyloggers and viruses? it seems to me you don't know the difference between hacking psn and a virus/keylogger. Still don't get the joke. I owned a playstation during that time, it wasn't as horrible because there are other things outside of video games. Sucked yes! not the end of the world though.

My point was, there are just as many downsides to owning a console as a PC. And imo their are way more Upsides to a PC.

The most common argument I see is, "I can lay in my bed and play FFXIV on my PS3"
, but, so can I. My PC is plugged into my TV and using my xbox pc controller (wireless) and a blue tooth keyboard I can lay in my bed and play on my PC on HDMI3 and my PS3 is on HDMI2....

If someone is a computer guru and capable of fixing anything that happens to it and preventing being infected from anything in the first place via (knowing how to browse the internet safely and not falling for phising attemps or allowing javascript injection hacks/java applets to run) then they are better off on a PC.

If you just want to play and don't know all the computer smarts and don't want to learn, then your better off on a console.

I've been gaming on a PC since 1998 and I haven't had malware or virus scanners installed since 2006 and I've never been hacked or had any viruses/malware. I run remote virus scans from my network server once in a blue moon and they've always been clean.

So I can go with PC, and IF they made a big change and people needed to upgrade their PC's, I could just get the PS4 ver. (Provided its out then) and upgrade my PC when I can, but would it be really needed if I have a med-high end PC now? as far as safety goes, #1 the gaming PC's are never used for web surfing #2 we have learned how to recognize phishing emails, I've been getting them for a game I've never played.

Yeah me too. I play on my pc mostly. I have a reclinable couch in front of the desk and a tv connected to the pc. I play with a ps3 controller.

doesn't have anything to do with ps3 not getting viruses though. Not everyone is as careful as you and I, people get infected with keyloggers and the like, this forum is proof.

Until the PS4 version comes out I will keep playing on the PC. I don't want to upgrade my PC until mid to late next year and that's when supposedly the directx 11.2 version will come out. PS4 version for 400 bucks and playing on max settings (speculation) gets my vote. That would be my advice too, play on your PC until the ps4 version comes out and then take a decision there, if upgrading your PC or getting a PS4. The beta starts in february so in three months you will know.

I don't think you will need to upgrade if you have a med-high end PC now. If ffxi and WoW are anything to go by, they don't stop supporting their initial version until much much later.

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Originally Posted by DarkStaoneDragon

So I can go with PC, and IF they made a big change and people needed to upgrade their PC's, I could just get the PS4 ver. (Provided its out then) and upgrade my PC when I can, but would it be really needed if I have a med-high end PC now?

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If you plan to go the PC route make sure you post specs on forum before buying it to get feedback. Common problem with PCs is most of them are sold with crappy or integrated video cards, which will give you an experience worse than a PS4 or PS3. Spending more on the video card can extend your PC life time a lot.

PS3, PS4, Xbox360 and Xbox1 all "aren't hackable/infectable" just like people said Mac wasn't. Remember a few years ago when Apple got it's first major "Antivirus" spoof and they told their employees to deny it?

In Sony's case, and Microsoft's would be too, it was more efficient to target the server where all the data is stored.

If cloud storage ever takes over the pc-world, vicious malware will become less common. Instead, otherwise-harmless keyloggers will take over for sniping at your data while other hackers try to take control of the cloud servers.

They're all hackable/infectable once someone comes along determined enough to do it. At the moment, the data contained within just isn't valuable enough to malware engineers to seriously try.

That, and the nature of how the software for those systems must generally be approved, means that a malware must spoof the approval. As these systems become more and more powerful and try to replace your home entertainment system and your family pc, the desire to be able to infect them will increase and the techniques will become widespread.

PC, just wait till addons come out and every single PS3/PS4 user is crying because end game guilds wont accept them because they are playing on inferior clients that will not support any addons.

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Originally Posted by Steeled

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Nobody is saying that they are not hackable or that there can be viruses for it. We are saying that it is unlikely that you will get it.

Possible = yes
Likely = no

The PS3 is already on the end of it's lifespan and the only virus you will find is "a virus named tom" (which is a videogame apparently, never head of it until today, its on steam too)

PC may play better than PS3. But to my knowledge I don't think anyone has ever been hacked on PS2/PS3 or 360 for FFXI or FFXIV. Plus if you have FFXIV PS3 you get to upgrade on PS4 next year for free.

As far as I know from a security stand-point:
Everything that connects to the outside world can be infected. Whether or not there is mal/spy/ad/whateverware for your particular console/build is another thing. However, some people like to poke hornet's nests and even if there is no obvious incentive, they might have a go at PS#.

Economical stand-point:
As far as I know, PS4/Xbone/this gen's consoles will have fees to play online games. On top of the fee you already pay to S-E for FFXIV, and whatever you pay your ISP.

What can go wrong stand-point:
With PC, there is you, your ISP and S-E where things may go south.
With consoles, there is you, your console, your ISP and S-E.

Drawback of PC is that every PC build is different, and even if you do everything right, the others in the chain might go "user error because wrong bad RAM/conga-line to your grandmother's house".
Adding to that, it is certainly easier (or should be) to just fire up your console and know that it is advertised as being compatible with the game.

On longevity, I usually go with PC, given that you do a little research. If you have a good computer store that you can trust, you might be able to get help picking parts and assembling your own system. On the other hand, if you get a PS4 and only plan to play for 3-5 years, it shouldn't be much of an issue.

The largest change to the game in the foreseeable future to the game client will be the DX11 update for PC. Unless your system is a year old, people might have to upgrade their PC to run things at max settings after this update.

As it was mentioned already in this thread, if you'd prefer to play on console you can get a free upgrade to PS4 when it comes out. The PS4 is pretty comparable to current gen PCs spec wise so it *should* boast graphics that are comparable to max settings on the PC client currently.

Whichever you feel most comfortable with. FFXI came out on PS2 and THAT is still being supported by SE. When the PS4 version is released the PS3 version will be the weakest technically, but it will be supported for several years to come.

All these long, opinionated, sometimes biased answers when all you needed do was address the topic. The most future-proof platform is obviously PC, parts can be upgraded as they grow obsolete and, hopefully, the Wine community will have good compatibility before too long so we can play without Windows. The safer platform is clearly PS3. Unlike Windows, there's no hacker community trying to get into it to steal your data or destroy the OS. You can't even load your own OS onto it anymore thanks to Sony. Yes, we will be getting free upgrades to PS4, but that's not really an upgrade, more like a slide sideways. Sure, it's a stronger system, but it's still a game console and will be outpaced by computers in short order, if not already.

none of them are future proof ps3-4 and pc .. im getting error code after error codes.. if SE dont fix their end nothing is future proof. Their customers (us Paying customers) are not future proof you can bet on that SE that's our error code for you.

Short term PS3, Long term PS4/PC Forever get a new PC in 2 years time and never have a issue.

http://youtu.be/dh7kyPmJJeg
Nuff said.

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That is quite funny :) The post was a good read. I used to think like that about PC gaming.
After 15 years of it though i personally can live without the constant wallet bleed, constant reading of hardware reviews etc needed to make sure something i want to play games on works to the standard i require. I have always played a mixture of games on PC's and Consoles and they all have their Pro's and Con's. It is down to the individual to decide what is right for them.

I heard over the years about the PC master race etc and i have always laughed about it, mainly because it is a huge vat of dung.
Neither is better than the other. They both have their good and bad sides.

Only the PC side of the argument have to back up their large spending spree's constantly and try and ram their opinions down the throats of anyone who is in ear/eye range.
Obviously both sides can be as bad as the other but to most people who are more interested in just having a good time playing games it is a boring topic.