On behalf of myself

A rant by me...

Hello, today I would like to share with you some of my thoughts! Over the past few weeks, I have been seeing some things that have really annoyed me! Some people seem to think that they know everything and they are the Messiah of all things FFXIV. Maybe that is a bit over-dramatic, but you get my point.

These are the things that are on my mind:

Need does indeed not equal want.

While this is true, who are any of you to say what this game needs? Are you a professional game developer for a triple A company? These very forums were created for suggestions and feedback, everything you post on here is a want and not a need, we do not need anything, not a single thing you post. Sure, this game may flop, but that is the point I am trying to make. Taking in suggestions is what is making this game turn out to be better, gradually.

Please don't tell me that things aren't needed, you can argue any and every suggestion on these forums is not something that is needed. Wants, not needs are what is going to make this game better. The only "need" is player feedback and suggestions.

Yes, it's true, this is Final Fantasy XIV and not any other MMO.

So you've played other MMOs? Five? Ten? Twenty? Just because you don't like something in one MMO doesn't mean that SE can't make it work in this game in a way that everyone can enjoy. Let's take the jump war for example. Some people are for it, some are against it. While I agree that jumping isn't something that is required right this very moment, we have been given no details about it at all, only that they will be evaluating it. Why don't you wait until they give us some details before you start prophesying the end of the world. Have some faith in the game developer we all love.

I speak for myself. "We" equates to yourself alone.

Seriously, I make my own decisions, I am the only one that speaks for myself. So please, stop acting as if you are the voice of the entire community, you aren't. Some people may agree with you, sure, but there are those that disagree with you as well. When you claim to be the voice of the community or even a large group/majority of players, to me, you look arrogant and ignorant.

Facts are separate from opinions.

I simply love it when people preach their own opinions as facts. Not. Such as, what will make this game fun. Again, who are you to say what will make this game more fun? Your opinion is your own, and you don't speak for the entire community. Different people get their kicks off different things. This is a MMO, something designed to attract a variety of people from different backgrounds, and that, in turn, have different tastes. Sorry if that offends you, but its the reality of not even MMOs, but the internet and even the world in general.

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This is by no means a personal attack against anyone. I am just tired of people assuming they know whats best for me and for the game I love and would love even more to see improved.

No single person will make this game amazing, it takes everyone, from the developers to the community.

Thank you for reading, sorry if I have offended you in any way. These are my own opinions, and you are free to criticize me as much as you want, though I may just bite back. :)

This thread may get spammed with reports, and it may get taken down. That doesn't really bother me, as long as I can get this out to a few people.

*Casts Barfire*

What's the point of this post?

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Originally Posted by Warp

What's the point of this post?

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What's the point of you posting in a thread with no point?

It's true, though.

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These very forums were created for suggestions and feedback

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If I'm not mistaken, weren't these very forums created because fans demanded it? Could be wrong though.

I would say the point is to get people to think about how/why they post.

It's just one of many in a series of "why is this community the way it is" posts.

It will probably be equally unsuccessful but at least Nikita posted on behalf of him/herself.

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Originally Posted by Micronowski

If I'm not mistaken, weren't these very forums created because fans demanded it? Could be wrong though.

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And???? ^_^

On behalf of myself I will not read that and post anyways.
Done and done.

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Originally Posted by Joeking

On behalf of myself I will not read that and post anyways.
Done and done.

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Thanks for your feedback! ^_^

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Originally Posted by Nikita

And???? ^_^

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I guess considering what little thought was put into your original post I shouldn't have expected you to put any into mine so I'll break it down for you. You said that players that post on the forums aren't experienced enough to suggest what the game needs(How you are able to know the extent of a posters experience is beyond me, but I'll let that part slide).

My point was that players said this game needed an official forum(And it did) and they have been very vocal about other issues as well. Just because someone doesn't develop a game doesn't mean they don't know what makes a game good, if this were true then video game critics and reviewers would be out of a job as no one would respect their opinion. On the flip side, who is to say what makes a developer good? You know how many crappy games SE and OTHER triple A developers have put out? With the way the game was released I would argue they are the ones who don't know what makes a game good(No mailboxes, mounts, battle system to name a few)

So I'll close with this: The developers need the players feedback as much as players need the developers. It is what makes an MMO grow and become successful.

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Originally Posted by Nikita

A rant by me...

Hello, today I would like to share with you some of my thoughts! Over the past few weeks, I have been seeing some things that have really annoyed me! Some people seem to think that they know everything and they are the Messiah of all things FFXIV. Maybe that is a bit over-dramatic, but you get my point.

These are the things that are on my mind:

Need does indeed not equal want.

While this is true, who are any of you to say what this game needs? Are you a professional game developer for a triple A company? These very forums were created for suggestions and feedback, everything you post on here is a want and not a need, we do not need anything, not a single thing you post. Sure, this game may flop, but that is the point I am trying to make. Taking in suggestions is what is making this game turn out to be better, gradually.

Please don't tell me that things aren't needed, you can argue any and every suggestion on these forums is not something that is needed. Wants, not needs are what is going to make this game better. The only "need" is player feedback and suggestions.

Yes, it's true, this is Final Fantasy XIV and not any other MMO.

So you've played other MMOs? Five? Ten? Twenty? Just because you don't like something in one MMO doesn't mean that SE can't make it work in this game in a way that everyone can enjoy. Let's take the jump war for example. Some people are for it, some are against it. While I agree that jumping isn't something that is required right this very moment, we have been given no details about it at all, only that they will be evaluating it. Why don't you wait until they give us some details before you start prophesying the end of the world. Have some faith in the game developer we all love.

I speak for myself. "We" equates to yourself alone.

Seriously, I make my own decisions, I am the only one that speaks for myself. So please, stop acting as if you are the voice of the entire community, you aren't. Some people may agree with you, sure, but there are those that disagree with you as well. When you claim to be the voice of the community or even a large group/majority of players, to me, you look arrogant and ignorant.

Facts are separate from opinions.

I simply love it when people preach their own opinions as facts. Not. Such as, what will make this game fun. Again, who are you to say what will make this game more fun? Your opinion is your own, and you don't speak for the entire community. Different people get their kicks off different things. This is a MMO, something designed to attract a variety of people from different backgrounds, and that, in turn, have different tastes. Sorry if that offends you, but its the reality of not even MMOs, but the internet and even the world in general.

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This is by no means a personal attack against anyone. I am just tired of people assuming they know whats best for me and for the game I love and would love even more to see improved.

No single person will make this game amazing, it takes everyone, from the developers to the community.

Thank you for reading, sorry if I have offended you in any way. These are my own opinions, and you are free to criticize me as much as you want, though I may just bite back. :)

This thread may get spammed with reports, and it may get taken down. That doesn't really bother me, as long as I can get this out to a few people.

*Casts Barfire*

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I know right.. some people seem to think that (as I'm taking it) that they are better producer then SE producers. That's how I seriously feel about some of these people here :/.

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Originally Posted by Warp

What's the point of this post?

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It seemed to be spawned in an attempt at a personal attack against certain groups of people.

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Originally Posted by Micronowski

I guess considering what little thought was put into your original post I shouldn't have expected you to put any into mine so I'll break it down for you. You said that players that post on the forums aren't experienced enough to suggest what the game needs(How you are able to know the extent of a posters experience is beyond me, but I'll let that part slide).

My point was that players said this game needed an official forum(And it did) and they have been very vocal about other issues as well. Just because someone doesn't develop a game doesn't mean they don't know what makes a game good, if this were true then video game critics and reviewers would be out of a job as no one would respect their opinion. On the flip side, who is to say what makes a developer good? You know how many crappy games SE and OTHER triple A developers have put out? With the way the game was released I would argue they are the ones who don't know what makes a game good(No mailboxes, mounts, battle system to name a few)

So I'll close with this: The developers need the players feedback as much as players need the developers. It is what makes an MMO grow and become successful.

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Your definition of "need" is flawed. FFXI survived 8 years without an official forum.
Why did XIV need one when XI didn't?

Need is based on necessity. In order to progress and compete with modern MMOs a forum may be necessary, but how can you determine that? I would say, it could only gain from a forum, but it didn't explicitly need one.

It's a semantic argument, but that's all TC's argument was in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Micronowski

I guess considering what little thought was put into your original post I shouldn't have expected you to put any into mine so I'll break it down for you. You said that players that post on the forums aren't experienced enough to suggest what the game needs(How you are able to know the extent of a posters experience is beyond me, but I'll let that part slide).

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This was the point of that first section:

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Originally Posted by Nikita

Please don't tell me that things aren't needed, you can argue any and every suggestion on these forums is not something that is needed. Wants, not needs are what is going to make this game better. The only "need" is player feedback and suggestions.

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So I'll close with this: The developers need the players feedback as much as players need the developers. It is what makes an MMO grow and become successful.

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Originally Posted by Nikita

No single person will make this game amazing, it takes everyone, from the developers to the community.

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de ja vu?

Before you try to to twist my words around, please examine the context of the material you are nit-picking from so that next time you don't fall flat on your face like you just did. Thanks!

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It seemed to be spawned in an attempt at a personal attack against certain groups of people.

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I think that's a fair interpretation.

I see it as an attempt to focus the community into a positive and constructive effort rather than negative and destructive, but with poorly chosen words that border on offensive to a certain group of people.

I didn't really expect much positive feedback to be completely honest, I just wanted to share my thoughts, and thought that maybe others could relate to what I am saying.

I think I apologized in advanced twice in my OP and said that this was indeed not a personal attack against anyone, though "I will bite back" when you don't read my message and claim that you do, followed by insulting it incorrectly! ^_^ You are free to insult, just please make sure you read it all before nit-picking!

SE looking for the players with no MMO experienced so your post pretty much mean noting. SE want to get the players that like FF but never play the online version. So at the end they looking for all type of players so anyone with a mind can post on here without issue you made a pointless post that does not even help out ffxiv which is the reason we have the forums

In before lock....

Funny how things look when taken out of context. I guess I can try my hand at copy and pasting snippets of your post

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who are any of you to say what this game needs?

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we do not need anything, not a single thing

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For someone advocating "Speak for yourself", You sure do like to speak for the community.

The game needs things and the developers need the community. If it wasn't for passionate players demanding change, this game would still be on the same downward spiral that it was when released.

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Your definition of "need" is flawed. FFXI survived 8 years without an official forum.
Why did XIV need one when XI didn't?

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FFXI's launch wasn't a commercial flop so the developers needed to have closer contact with the community. Not to mention things were a lot different back then as to what the standard was for an MMO.

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Originally Posted by Micronowski

Funny how things look when taken out of context. I guess I can try my hand at copy and pasting snippets of your post

For someone advocating "Speak for yourself", You sure do like to speak for the community.

The game needs things and the developers need the community. If it wasn't for passionate players demanding change, this game would still be on the same downward spiral that it was when released.

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who are any of you to say what this game needs?

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Originally Posted by Nikita

we do not need anything, not a single thing

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Oh, hehe, you sure love to nit-pick! The paragraph in which you quoted from:

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Originally Posted by Nikita

Need does indeed not equal want.

While this is true, who are any of you to say what this game needs? Are you a professional game developer for a triple A company? These very forums were created for suggestions and feedback, everything you post on here is a want and not a need, we do not need anything, not a single thing you post. Sure, this game may flop, but that is the point I am trying to make. Taking in suggestions is what is making this game turn out to be better, gradually.

Please don't tell me that things aren't needed, you can argue any and every suggestion on these forums is not something that is needed. Wants, not needs are what is going to make this game better. The only "need" is player feedback and suggestions.

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This was to explain that even though need does not equal want, "wants" are what makes this game grow, and no single player posting on these forums has the right to tell me that my requests waste time or aren't needed.

You basically are saying that I said we need no feedback at all, which was actually the exact opposite of what I said!

You are SO silly! ^_^

Technically, as much as people like to believe otherwise there are actually some people are a lot more knowledgeable or open minded than they're given credit for. For example --

Suggestion: "We need giant laser shooting robots that rampages across every city and you have to defend the city from it's attack."

How would that not be a waste of time versus:

Suggestion: "Unlock chocobos and airship for more methods of travel, especially when Ishgard is related to battle content, we need quicker transportation and sometimes are low on anima."

So people who say "things are a "waste of time" generally mean in regards to something the game could benefit more from.

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Originally Posted by Nikita

Oh, hehe, you sure love to nit-pick! The paragraph in which you quoted from:



This was to explain that even though need does not equal want, "wants" are what makes this game grow, and no single player posting on these forums has the right to tell me that my requests waste time or aren't needed.

You basically are saying that I said we need no feedback at all, which was actually the exact opposite of what I said!

You are SO silly! ^_^

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can i ask you question? are you living in the pass? Let me tell you i dislike the forums because now SE would make the game on 30-40people on here and make it casual but i have hope that they make the game how they think it should be.

In FFXI time SE never listen to us and we live and enjoy that now when wow became main-stream everyone start coping wow and listening to there player base. But at least SE listen but does not give 100% what we want they make it there own version and add stuff that they think we need.

We ask what we want they think about it but at the end there not blizzard if SE was blizzard FFXIV right now be a wow-clone even tho they are adding dungeon/raids i wish the dungeon/raids is not the center of this game and the endgame is not base of that.

i still have hope for FFXIV and SE i hope they don't listen to everyone dumb needs and pick only the one that make sense for ffxiv.

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Oh, hehe, you sure love to nit-pick! The paragraph in which you quoted from:



This was to explain that even though need does not equal want, "wants" are what makes this game grow, and no single player posting on these forums has the right to tell me that my requests waste time or aren't needed.

You basically are saying that I said we need no feedback at all, which was actually the exact opposite of what I said!

You are SO silly! ^_^

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Awesome, once again you put either no thought into what I said or just didn't read it. Since you like quoting yourself so much, I think I'll quote myself this time.

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For someone advocating "Speak for yourself", You sure do like to speak for the community.

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Since you probably still are not understand my point, it was that you're speaking for the community. By your OWN logic you can merely suggest how to act not demand it. I've considered your suggestion and I think I'll chose to ignore it.

I also find it funny how not only do you speak for the community you also speak for the developers. Oh the hypocrisy is quite funny.

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Technically, as much as people like to believe otherwise there are actually some people are a lot more knowledgeable or open minded than they're given credit for. For example --

Suggestion: "We need giant laser shooting robots that rampages across every city and you have to defend the city from it's attack."

How would that not be a waste of time versus:

Suggestion: "Unlock chocobos and airship for more methods of travel, especially when Ishgard is related to battle content, we need quicker transportation and sometimes are low on anima."

So people who say "things are a "waste of time" generally mean in regards to something the game could benefit more from.

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That's correct Jannesta! In the "Need does not equal want" section, I tried to make it obvious that no single player can decide what is "needed" for this game! It's up to SE to take in the suggestions and implement as they see fit! I also said "lets have some faith in SE!" to try and commune that they are the ones who make the final decisions! :)

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Since you probably still are not understand my point, it was that you're speaking for the community. By your OWN logic you can merely suggest how to act not demand it. I've considered your suggestion and I think I'll chose to ignore it.

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Originally Posted by Nikita

Thank you for reading, sorry if I have offended you in any way. These are my own opinions, and you are free to criticize me as much as you want, though I may just bite back. :)

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I made very clear throughout the post that these were my own opinions! ^_^ I wasn't making any suggestions! I was letting you know how I feel about certain things! You are TOO much! You make me laugh so hard!

Yes, I read the part about it being your thoughts. I also read

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Need does indeed not equal want.

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we do not need anything, not a single thing you post

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Why don't you wait until they give us some details before you start prophesying the end of the world.

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And I want to throw this in there because i lol'd at it

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I simply love it when people preach their own opinions as facts.

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I realize you said this was your "thoughts" but you speak in a matter-of-fact tone that suggests otherwise. You can preface your "suggestions" any way you want but the fact is you are just as arrogant and ignorant as the people you are condemning.

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Originally Posted by Micronowski

I realize you said this was your "thoughts" but you speak in a matter-of-fact tone that suggests otherwise. You can preface your "suggestions" any way you want but the fact is you are just as arrogant and ignorant as the people you are condemning.

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Originally Posted by Nikita

Facts are separate from opinions.

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:( I'm sorry you feel that way, it wasn't intentional!

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Originally Posted by Nikita

Thank you for reading, sorry if I have offended you in any way.

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We live in 2011 where everything is taken from the player they give out Beta but you working for the company for free. They take what you want and try and add it so you would pay there game. This is what SE want tanaka never listen to the players and that what i enjoy SE made a game and made it how they want it to be. But you also need to listen to your players at some point but not like blizzard and make the game 70% on how players want it.

Enough said :)

Yea, well...you know that's just like uh....your opinion man

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Originally Posted by Micronowski

Since you probably still are not understand my point, it was that you're speaking for the community. By your OWN logic you can merely suggest how to act not demand it. I've considered your suggestion and I think I'll chose to ignore it.

I also find it funny how not only do you speak for the community you also speak for the developers. Oh the hypocrisy is quite funny.

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I thought the same thing. (^.^)
But I really absolutely don't care. I just wanted that Gold Medal.
*shameless honesty*

With all honesty this community sucks. I never enjoy myself on here, I have never been in any topic where people aren't arguing, nothing is civil about it...in fact if we all met in person and we all had pitchforks only one of us is walking away alive. Its horrible. Everyone is so serious about a video game and everyone argues everything whether or not they even agree with it. I've literally seen people argue with someone else siding with them on a subject...I don't get it.

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I've literally seen people argue with someone else siding with them on a subject...I don't get it.

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Those are fun to watch

miscommunication ftl

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Let me tell you i dislike the forums because now SE would make the game on 30-40people on here and make it casual but i have hope that they make the game how they think it should be.

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Of course they will make the game how they see fit...but maybe they aren't making it how you see fit? SE hasn't really listened to many people on the forums to move forward with this game - hardly anyone said anything about a job system, hardly anyone said anything about the specifics of content (companies). They aren't "casualizing" the game, they are making the game they see fit for a profit, that's it. The forums are in place to take in some ideas, sure, but mainly the "givens" such as Chocobos (or mounts), such as "we want content", such as the small stuff like "fix the market wards"...but they aren't coming in here to do something drastic like full blown airship battles, for instance, unless they already plan on it. At the end of the day SE decides what to do with the game and the voice of a few gamers on a message board is hardly a catalyst.

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With all honesty this community sucks. I never enjoy myself on here, I have never been in any topic where people aren't arguing, nothing is civil about it...in fact if we all met in person and we all had pitchforks only one of us is walking away alive. Its horrible. Everyone is so serious about a video game and everyone argues everything whether or not they even agree with it. I've literally seen people argue with someone else siding with them on a subject...I don't get it.

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I know i'm guity of this, but mack is 1000000% true. And i've said this to ffxivcore.com and ffxiv zam. FYI I was ban for liking them game, and reporting people who insulted anything I said by going after my spelling and grammar issues I have no control over. I was told I was censoring people. And one mod laughed at me for bringing up cyber bullying.

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I know i'm guity of this, but mack is 1000000% true. And i've said this to ffxivcore.com and ffxiv zam. FYI I was ban for liking them game, and reporting people who insulted anything I said by going after my spelling and grammar issues I have no control over. I was told I was censoring people. And one mod laughed at me for bringing up cyber bullying.

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I thought I recognized that posting style. You were telling people how to play a game(XIV) that you didn't even play yourself. Guess that explains that banner/sig too...

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Originally Posted by Mack

With all honesty this community sucks. I never enjoy myself on here, I have never been in any topic where people aren't arguing, nothing is civil about it...in fact if we all met in person and we all had pitchforks only one of us is walking away alive. Its horrible. Everyone is so serious about a video game and everyone argues everything whether or not they even agree with it. I've literally seen people argue with someone else siding with them on a subject...I don't get it.

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*sneaks up and stabs you with a pitchfork*

HA!... My work here is done...

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And one mod laughed at me for bringing up cyber bullying.

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Please stop, your going to give a heart attack, this is just to hilarious.

Wait, people can complain about other people, but people can't complain about other people?
Or is people having a fuss with other people while other people like to fuss other people and...


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*mind blown* WBUAIODBWUIP

JUST LIVE PEACEFULLY AND SEND SUGGESTION TO HELP THE GAME DAMMIT!
YOU'VE BOUGHT A SMALL CAR! wut

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Originally Posted by Nikita

A rant by me...

Hello, today I would like to share with you some of my thoughts! Over the past few weeks, I have been seeing some things that have really annoyed me! Some people seem to think that they know everything and they are the Messiah of all things FFXIV. Maybe that is a bit over-dramatic, but you get my point.

These are the things that are on my mind:

Need does indeed not equal want.

While this is true, who are any of you to say what this game needs? Are you a professional game developer for a triple A company? These very forums were created for suggestions and feedback, everything you post on here is a want and not a need, we do not need anything, not a single thing you post. Sure, this game may flop, but that is the point I am trying to make. Taking in suggestions is what is making this game turn out to be better, gradually.

Please don't tell me that things aren't needed, you can argue any and every suggestion on these forums is not something that is needed. Wants, not needs are what is going to make this game better. The only "need" is player feedback and suggestions.

Yes, it's true, this is Final Fantasy XIV and not any other MMO.

So you've played other MMOs? Five? Ten? Twenty? Just because you don't like something in one MMO doesn't mean that SE can't make it work in this game in a way that everyone can enjoy. Let's take the jump war for example. Some people are for it, some are against it. While I agree that jumping isn't something that is required right this very moment, we have been given no details about it at all, only that they will be evaluating it. Why don't you wait until they give us some details before you start prophesying the end of the world. Have some faith in the game developer we all love.

I speak for myself. "We" equates to yourself alone.

Seriously, I make my own decisions, I am the only one that speaks for myself. So please, stop acting as if you are the voice of the entire community, you aren't. Some people may agree with you, sure, but there are those that disagree with you as well. When you claim to be the voice of the community or even a large group/majority of players, to me, you look arrogant and ignorant.

Facts are separate from opinions.

I simply love it when people preach their own opinions as facts. Not. Such as, what will make this game fun. Again, who are you to say what will make this game more fun? Your opinion is your own, and you don't speak for the entire community. Different people get their kicks off different things. This is a MMO, something designed to attract a variety of people from different backgrounds, and that, in turn, have different tastes. Sorry if that offends you, but its the reality of not even MMOs, but the internet and even the world in general.

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This is by no means a personal attack against anyone. I am just tired of people assuming they know whats best for me and for the game I love and would love even more to see improved.

No single person will make this game amazing, it takes everyone, from the developers to the community.

Thank you for reading, sorry if I have offended you in any way. These are my own opinions, and you are free to criticize me as much as you want, though I may just bite back. :)

This thread may get spammed with reports, and it may get taken down. That doesn't really bother me, as long as I can get this out to a few people.

*Casts Barfire*

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Look these words up, then read your post.

Pretentious.
ostentatious.
Bloviate.

I never said people can't complain ^_^ The message I was trying to convey was a: when you say you are speaking for the community, you aren't b: I find it annoying when people assume they know for a fact what should and shouldn't be done for the game, and everyone else is wrong c: have some faith in SE, since they make the final decision on what goes into the game

:P

You can nit-pick at what I say all day long, this is actually a better overall response than I had expected!

Thanks for all your thoughts!

Edit: Oh, and I don't have time to look up the words you found on your online thesaurus, maybe later though ^_^

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Originally Posted by Nikita

A rant by me...

Hello, today I would like to share with you some of my thoughts! Over the past few weeks, I have been seeing some things that have really annoyed me! Some people seem to think that they know everything and they are the Messiah of all things FFXIV. Maybe that is a bit over-dramatic, but you get my point.

These are the things that are on my mind:

Need does indeed not equal want.

While this is true, who are any of you to say what this game needs? Are you a professional game developer for a triple A company? These very forums were created for suggestions and feedback, everything you post on here is a want and not a need, we do not need anything, not a single thing you post. Sure, this game may flop, but that is the point I am trying to make. Taking in suggestions is what is making this game turn out to be better, gradually.

Please don't tell me that things aren't needed, you can argue any and every suggestion on these forums is not something that is needed. Wants, not needs are what is going to make this game better. The only "need" is player feedback and suggestions.

Yes, it's true, this is Final Fantasy XIV and not any other MMO.

So you've played other MMOs? Five? Ten? Twenty? Just because you don't like something in one MMO doesn't mean that SE can't make it work in this game in a way that everyone can enjoy. Let's take the jump war for example. Some people are for it, some are against it. While I agree that jumping isn't something that is required right this very moment, we have been given no details about it at all, only that they will be evaluating it. Why don't you wait until they give us some details before you start prophesying the end of the world. Have some faith in the game developer we all love.

I speak for myself. "We" equates to yourself alone.

Seriously, I make my own decisions, I am the only one that speaks for myself. So please, stop acting as if you are the voice of the entire community, you aren't. Some people may agree with you, sure, but there are those that disagree with you as well. When you claim to be the voice of the community or even a large group/majority of players, to me, you look arrogant and ignorant.

Facts are separate from opinions.

I simply love it when people preach their own opinions as facts. Not. Such as, what will make this game fun. Again, who are you to say what will make this game more fun? Your opinion is your own, and you don't speak for the entire community. Different people get their kicks off different things. This is a MMO, something designed to attract a variety of people from different backgrounds, and that, in turn, have different tastes. Sorry if that offends you, but its the reality of not even MMOs, but the internet and even the world in general.

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This is by no means a personal attack against anyone. I am just tired of people assuming they know whats best for me and for the game I love and would love even more to see improved.

No single person will make this game amazing, it takes everyone, from the developers to the community.

Thank you for reading, sorry if I have offended you in any way. These are my own opinions, and you are free to criticize me as much as you want, though I may just bite back. :)

This thread may get spammed with reports, and it may get taken down. That doesn't really bother me, as long as I can get this out to a few people.

*Casts Barfire*

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I liked this post just so I could unlike it.

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Originally Posted by Darkoon

I liked this post just so I could unlike it.

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And then you told us all about it! How exciting! :)