Thief, we want it!

Yoshida, please make your amazing game even more enjoyable by introducing a thief class. (Yes this is a butter up post and no I'm not ashamed.)

Please like and encourage the implementation of a Thief class on this thread if you enjoy the stabby stabby sorts.


"Do you know why women like Navy SEALs? Because they do it from the back."

I am all for theif, don't care for the class myself but wish it was in. One thing that always puzzled me was Ninja and Samurai, personally in every FF game they were in just felt like pandering. They never seem to fit in the world yet there they are o.O

Oh dear god I want Thief back.

Just dont give it stealth.

We have PvP incoming...

Why do people keep posting these threads? Do you never listen to live letters or read stuff the Dev's put out? First new job will "probably be something like dark knight" per freaking Yoshi P. Even that new job will be in the next expansion. It will be years before you see stuff like thf or rdm in the game. So many other jobs are lined up first. Yoshi said if he had his way the next job he would put in would be red mage, but its not feasible right now. This is all stuff you can read and find out about if you just do some digging.

I'm undecided if I would like it to be a class or job, so I'll leave that to his team. I do prefer all new jobs start from base classes so not everyone with the class gets an instance level 50 new job and has absolutely no idea how to play it because they didn't level at all playing it, like scholar and summoner.

People are far too liberal with their use of "we". To quote a famous man: "I do not think that word means what you think it means."

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Originally Posted by Yurikitty

Why do people keep posting these threads? Do you never listen to live letters or read stuff the Dev's put out? First new job will "probably be something like dark knight" per freaking Yoshi P. Even that new job will be in the next expansion. It will be years before you see stuff like thf or rdm in the game. So many other jobs are lined up first. Yoshi said if he had his way the next job he would put in would be red mage, but its not feasible right now. This is all stuff you can read and find out about if you just do some digging.

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You're being negative, a troll and way off topic. No one ever said we didn't already know that, and the post clearly states this is groveling for thief. Go QQ somewhere else.

and Darkknight and Red Mage and Blue Mage and Samurai and Ninja and Geomancer and Puppetmaster and Beastmaster and....

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Originally Posted by Yurikitty

Why do people keep posting these threads? Do you never listen to live letters or read stuff the Dev's put out? First new job will "probably be something like dark knight" per freaking Yoshi P. Even that new job will be in the next expansion. It will be years before you see stuff like thf or rdm in the game. So many other jobs are lined up first. Yoshi said if he had his way the next job he would put in would be red mage, but its not feasible right now. This is all stuff you can read and find out about if you just do some digging.

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Take some of your own advice and "read". The first "class" being introduced will be Musketeer. It was supposed to be here in 1.0, but never made it and ACN took it's slot for re-launch of ARR. Yoshi-P already said he'd like to introduce this when he raises level cap which he hopes to do so in a Major Patch, not an expansion.

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Sorry, on topic! Yes I hope THF is implemented soon, maybe Musketeer's Job? or a whole new class (I came up with a class for THF back in Beta forums, but I'd have to dig it out...). Either way I miss THF very much.

want want want..thats all the threads you ever see nowadays...

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Originally Posted by Yamimarik

Take some of your own advice and "read". The first "class" being introduced will be Musketeer. It was supposed to be here in 1.0, but never made it and ACN took it's slot for re-launch of ARR. Yoshi-P already said he'd like to introduce this when he raises level cap which he hopes to do so in a Major Patch, not an expansion.

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Sorry, on topic! Yes I hope THF is implemented soon, maybe Musketeer's Job? or a whole new class (I came up with a class for THF back in Beta forums, but I'd have to dig it out...). Either way I miss THF very much.

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Thank you Marik! Also, clearly Yurikitty has no idea what the term "General Discussion" means.

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Originally Posted by Silhouette

Thank you Marik! Also, clearly Yurikitty has no idea what the term "General Discussion" means.

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You're quite welcome. I don't like when people try to use false facts, though I'm never right 100% of the time myself, and willing to admit it when proven against me. I hope we see THF in the first set of new jobs we get when ever they introduce Musketeer and what ever else Yoshi-P has up his sleeves for it.

Thief should be a JOB not a CLASS. There's a very real difference.

Jobs are the classic Final Fantasy professions that should come with a Soul Crystal. I and I'm sure a lot of people would be really disappointed if Thief was something most consider worthless come Lv.30.

But yes, bring the Thief back and hopefully make it separate from the Ninja. I wanna be a Thief, not a Ninja.

Thief is coming with 2.1 ... as a Moggle in the Moggle King party.

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Originally Posted by Nahara

Thief should be a JOB not a CLASS. ....

But yes, bring the Thief back and hopefully make it separate from the Ninja. I wanna be a Thief, not a Ninja.

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In a prior post in the thread I commented on this, I'm not sure how to make it appropriate really. As long as its viable DPS for end game content, I'm happy.

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Originally Posted by Nahara

Thief should be a JOB not a CLASS. There's a very real difference.

Jobs are the classic Final Fantasy professions that should come with a Soul Crystal. I and I'm sure a lot of people would be really disappointed if Thief was something most consider worthless come Lv.30.

But yes, bring the Thief back and hopefully make it separate from the Ninja. I wanna be a Thief, not a Ninja.

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Agreed. It needs to be a Job. I would like to hope they would never put an iconic job as a class. So far they haven't!

I've been waiting for a thief job for 3 years. I will be there day one at the Thief guild when its added.

I don't know, monk feels very rogue/thief like to me.

But I do like some thf AF :D

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Originally Posted by Nahara

Thief should be a JOB not a CLASS. There's a very real difference.

Jobs are the classic Final Fantasy professions that should come with a Soul Crystal. I and I'm sure a lot of people would be really disappointed if Thief was something most consider worthless come Lv.30.

But yes, bring the Thief back and hopefully make it separate from the Ninja. I wanna be a Thief, not a Ninja.

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I don't know about you but jobs have about five skills and that's it for the job. I honestly rather have more than five still as a thief so I don't mind it becoming a class but it just seems wrong to call it a class and I rather it be a job out of principal. This worries me far too much, thinking about how they might butcher Thief and make it worthless. I already dislike how they did Bard.

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Originally Posted by ashikenshin

I don't know, monk feels very rogue/thief like to me.

But I do like some thf AF :D

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I don't get "rogue" feelings when I play monk...

But I'm open to other peoples opinion. :)

rogues do it from behind...

I just want them to remake ffxi. I am settling for FFXIV in hopes that day will come.

But thief would be cool. It would help with a lot of threat issues if they brought the SATA mechanic in.

Sneak Attack -> Trick Attack -> (Dancing Edge/Shark Bite), do tons of dmg and make the mob think someone else did it.

Thief: DD, with one tank job, one dd job (and dd being partially support)

Don't see why they wouldn't add thief though, Moggle Mog has a thief moogle with him.

IMO though, theres no point to having tons of Jobs in this game if they don't increase the party size back to 6 for a light party an 12 for a full party.

If they stick with 4 and 8 and they add 10 jobs over the next year... The FOTM spam will be autrocious. Your a level 50 blm now and people want you for turn 4 bcb, then Blue Mage comes out and does Magical and Physical dmg and better aoe and BLM get's the bullet. Crap like that will happen constantly and you'll be leveling up your FOTM class because you won't get a group otherwise.

I wanna gunblade specialist.. the imperials have gunblades so it can happen, i wanna get my Squall on ;_;

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Originally Posted by Yurikitty

Why do people keep posting these threads? Do you never listen to live letters or read stuff the Dev's put out? First new job will "probably be something like dark knight" per freaking Yoshi P. Even that new job will be in the next expansion. It will be years before you see stuff like thf or rdm in the game. So many other jobs are lined up first. Yoshi said if he had his way the next job he would put in would be red mage, but its not feasible right now. This is all stuff you can read and find out about if you just do some digging.

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Interview where Yoshida says they know a Scout Class (read Thief) is missing. (Also mentions Ninjas/Samurais as wanted, nothing about putting in game)

Found Here

A translated interview found on these forums from when 1.x was still running. It specifically mentions "just a few of the random ideas (or delusions) that Yoshida was kicking around in his head, none of which are finalized concepts." However, confirmed Arcanist for 2.0 release. (Mentions they were thinking about branching Dark Knight off of Gladiator and bringing Musketeer into game with dual pistols, neither confirmed or set in stone.)

Found Here

Interview post launch where Ninja is confirmed, however with no date estimate.

Found Here

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There are plenty of other interviews mentioning there will be new jobs/classes, no specifics or timelines. However, what I CAN'T find is an OFFICIAL interview or comment by Yoshi that is not 'just an idea' saying that they will in fact be bringing Musketeer into the game.

I have seen plenty of people arguing because there was a Musketeer's Guild in 1.x (from Tanaka, not Yoshi) and the fact that there are NPCs currently 'firing pistols' in the practicing area for the Marauders' guild. They've data mined and found graphics that like the guild crest that existed in 1.x in 2.0, blah blah blah.

Obviously nobody can say what will and won't be in the game, but I like to go by interviews and official statements. If you have one, please link it so I can check it out as I try to stay up to date on this.

The ONLY other thing I've seen that's not quite official, but mentioned by Yoshi in interviews is that he personally would like to see Red Mage brought to ARR.

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In regards to the original poster, yes we're getting a scout class (perhaps Thief class, Ninja job? who knows). To the musketeer lovers, please toss a link to an interview! I am interested in reading it. :)

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Originally Posted by Yurikitty

Why do people keep posting these threads? Do you never listen to live letters or read stuff the Dev's put out? First new job will "probably be something like dark knight" per freaking Yoshi P. Even that new job will be in the next expansion. It will be years before you see stuff like thf or rdm in the game. So many other jobs are lined up first. Yoshi said if he had his way the next job he would put in would be red mage, but its not feasible right now. This is all stuff you can read and find out about if you just do some digging.

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with requesting a very specific job to be included some day. No one here suggested it should be the next job or that it in anyway contradicts the statements made by Yoshi-P. Take your attitude elsewhere as it is misplaced here.

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Originally Posted by Sumii

I have seen plenty of people arguing because there was a Musketeer's Guild in 1.x (from Tanaka, not Yoshi) and the fact that there are NPCs currently 'firing pistols' in the practicing area for the Marauders' guild. They've data mined and found graphics that like the guild crest that existed in 1.x in 2.0, blah blah blah.

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I completely agree with everything you said, but I wanted to add more info to this part. If you go to the Marauders guild in Limsa it shares a large room with another empty guild that has a gun for the symbol. This is right now in 2.0. So this isn't some "oh back in 1.0" piece of information as you can actually go see it right now.

I believe the term "Scout" has already been referenced by Yoshi in regards to a new agility class.

So likely:

Scout (Class) >> Thief (Job1), Ninja (Job2)

I love thief, made being a tank in XI less stressful and promoted team unity I always thought.

But seriously, all I want is my DRK back.
http://masqmania.files.wordpress.com...u0y.jpg?w=1024

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Originally Posted by Tiggy

I completely agree with everything you said, but I wanted to add more info to this part. If you go to the Marauders guild in Limsa it shares a large room with another empty guild that has a gun for the symbol. This is right now in 2.0. So this isn't some "oh back in 1.0" piece of information as you can actually go see it right now.

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Oh I know, I've seen the door that could easily become the guild. I just am looking for an official interview. I've got nothing against people trying to add up what they see, but I like to stick with official announcements for jobs/classes. If I went solely on that stuff alone, the fact that Yoshi told a JP player he'd love to have a gunblade class and the fact they're (the gunblades) already in the game would make a nervous wreck waiting for an agility tank :)

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Originally Posted by Yamimarik

Take some of your own advice and "read". The first "class" being introduced will be Musketeer. It was supposed to be here in 1.0, but never made it and ACN took it's slot for re-launch of ARR. Yoshi-P already said he'd like to introduce this when he raises level cap which he hopes to do so in a Major Patch, not an expansion.

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Sorry, on topic! Yes I hope THF is implemented soon, maybe Musketeer's Job? or a whole new class (I came up with a class for THF back in Beta forums, but I'd have to dig it out...). Either way I miss THF very much.

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musketeer is not planned for before long, was stated a number of time amazing...
they will not make it before we get acces to more technologie.

the best guess is not before we get close of isalbar and the empire, since they are the one using it.
the musketeer of limsa use a simple gun, do that make them musketeer, no...

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Originally Posted by silentwindfr

musketeer is not planned for before long, was stated a number of time amazing...
they will not make it before we get acces to more technologie.

the best guess is not before we get close of isalbar and the empire, since they are the one using it.
the musketeer of limsa use a simple gun, do that make them musketeer, no...

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Not sure what this is... but you quoted me, so idk?

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Originally Posted by Yamimarik

Take some of your own advice and "read". The first "class" being introduced will be Musketeer. It was supposed to be here in 1.0, but never made it and ACN took it's slot for re-launch of ARR. Yoshi-P already said he'd like to introduce this when he raises level cap which he hopes to do so in a Major Patch, not an expansion.

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Sorry, on topic! Yes I hope THF is implemented soon, maybe Musketeer's Job? or a whole new class (I came up with a class for THF back in Beta forums, but I'd have to dig it out...). Either way I miss THF very much.

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Not sure if you saw my post a page back, but do you have a link to an official interview or statement from Yoshi about that? I'd love to read it. Although I think the statement about taking its slot is incorrect as the players' poll before 2.0 released had the Summoner/Beastmaster (pet class) win as the next job to be put in the game. I don't recall ever seeing Yoshi (not Tanaka) mention bringing musketeer actually in. In any case, if you have a link please share! :)

As much as I want a new Job Class they need to work on some of the problems the current jobs have.

it was planned to be the first class added at the release in 2009, but when tanaka did leave and yoshida did take the lead, the musketeer wasn't a priority... is not the case yet.

we do have 5 ranged class against 4 melee, plus the magic and scout class seems to be them high priority actually more than a ranged class with a gun.

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it was planned to be the first class added at the release in 2009, but when tanaka did leave and yoshida did take the lead, the musketeer wasn't a priority... is not the case yet.

we do have 5 ranged class against 4 melee, plus the magic and scout class seems to be them high priority actually more than a ranged class with a gun.

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Technically, we are missing one more job to share DEX gear with Bard........

like we are missing a jobs for share leather+strength stuff

they have always said that the class must fit a role for be added, actually outside be a ranged dps with a gun, musketeer have nothing yet, when is simplier to add thief, with all the skill in the final fantasy story.

indeed you can use some jobs that use gun as gunner, machinist... but it will need to add a news crafting class for them weapon, since carpenter nor blacksmith can't make them weapon. i doubt goldsmith can be used for this... it will recquire a new jobs.

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Not sure if you saw my post a page back, but do you have a link to an official interview or statement from Yoshi about that? I'd love to read it. Although I think the statement about taking its slot is incorrect as the players' poll before 2.0 released had the Summoner/Beastmaster (pet class) win as the next job to be put in the game. I don't recall ever seeing Yoshi (not Tanaka) mention bringing musketeer actually in. In any case, if you have a link please share! :)

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You'd probably know more than I do, I just remember reading all of this back in Beta Forums, I wasn't here for 1.0, but I'm guessing you were?
I remember my FC telling me about how Musketeer was supposed to make it in 1.0, which is why it already has a guild in Limsa, but I wouldn't know where to start finding out this info. since I read it all on beta forums. Sorry, I can try and look but I promise nothing XD